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[The Unfallen]

Mesina2 wrote...

A dead one.

Dude I love your posts.

[Saaziel]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You have a very rigid imagination.

Specifically,

Technological help: Something dangerously close to a Deus ex machina from the get go. Cannons ? Turians got that cover . Shields , Quarians are way ahead in that department. AI , ok , we got EDI, so is she's going to devise a Virus to upload ?

A squadmate: Nothing noteworthy here. Nothing to broaden the Cerberus narrative which was what i thought you wanted.

A ship: Same as above ; No real sense of having made something worth wild in the previous instalments . A major issue for the Cerberus crowd.

Strike Teams; Well you'll need to coordinate those , and I'm not sure you made enough friends you can trust for that. Aliens and Alliance brass would nuke the sites after the mission completion, eliminate the Cerberus team sent. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

Again; I'm all ears , but i can't see anything satisfactory.

Edit: Hell , I'm not the Cerberus know-it-all : You might come up with something more tangible , i can't.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 12:53 .

[Saaziel]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Not if it comes from the Collector base. Examining Reapers and their technology to find ways of defeating them is logical and believable.

Your looking at an organization in shambles.

How would they muster the resources to even start development of something like that. Their operatives are dead , their finances are dead , they have lost countless infrastructures.

That's the hard to believe part .

Saphra Deden wrote...
A new Cerberus operative to interact with doesn't expand the Cerberus narrative?

I guess it depends , Having the Illusive man as a squadmate doesn't seem consistent. Who else , that Kei lang guy ? Who gives a **** ? And you'd be satisfied , a whole game , with a re-skinned Zaeed ?

Saphra Deden wrote...
You aren't giving this any real effort so I'm not going to either.

Why should i be making the efforts here ? You're the one that made broad strokes, and i agree with that. I'm questioning the details , and you got nothing.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 01:17 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

"Magnificent Bastard."

Emphasis on Bastard.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

A pseudo-mentor figure kind of antagonist as my Shepard takes over Cerberus at the end of the game. Sort of like Henry Leland from Alpha Protocol.

[olymind1]

RolandX9 wrote...

For Paragons, I want TIM to be the Plot Point 2 boss (i.e. a major fight about two-thirds into the game). He shouldn't be the Saren of ME3, but bringing him down should be a big deal, and an immensely satisfying conclusion to Paragon-Shep's entanglement with Cerberus. Plus, I really want Jack along when I shotgun him in the face. *EG*

At about the same time-point, Renegades should be able to fight some epic Reaper-thing to free TIM from their control, thus bringing Cerberus back around to the side of humanity (or at least TIM's twisted vision of it). This would allowing Renegade-Shep to use Cerberus' inexplicably enormous army to retake Earth, and the secrets of the Collector Base to destroy the Reapers. Alternately, Renegades could have to mercy-kill TIM and take over Cerberus in his place ("Thank you, Shepard. I knew you would do what must be done.") to save the galaxy...and take it over.

i fully agree with this. i'd very like to see it in ME3.

[Berkilak]

Aye. I'd personally like to see the latter 30% of the game being entire Reaper-centric, Cerberus having been dealt with one way or the other.

[Persona RED]

I'm really hoping they don't make him like.. some hyped-up biotic demi-god cause of implants or whatnot.

[Vahir]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I want to see him kill someone innocent. You know it would make him look more evil and give us a better reason to kill him more.

Goodbye Dr. Chakwas.

[Siansonea]

If Cerberus-as-antagonist is yet another Indoctrination plot, I'm going to throw my controller across the room. If they've got a good story reason to oppose Shepard, then that's a horse of a different color. But please no more Benezias and Amanda Kensons. Indoctrination is obviously one of the Reapers' main weapons, but come on, doesn't ANYBODY have enough common sense to avoid Reaper artifacts?

[TheOtherTheoG]

A pretty hefty one. And I really do hope that the Cerberus working with the Reapers thing is more complicated than just 'they are indoctrinated' or 'TIM is a husk' or something - there are a lot of ways which you could go on that one, picking the most obvious would be a missed opportunity.

[00_Gundam]

TIM is going to be a pain to deal with but I don't think it's going to be easy to take him down maybe with Liara's help but I have a feeling he's going to stay alive for a long time

[Annarl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I'd have preferred Cerberus to be a minor side faction in ME3 (as a result of Retribution) that Shepard can choose to either deal the killing blow to or salvage for future use against the Reapers and beyond.

I would prefer that too.  But 40% would seem to suggest otherwise.  

[-Skorpious-]

I had hoped Bioware would avoid turning TIM into a mustache twirling villain in ME3, but there is no use crying over spilled milk at this point.

With that said, I guess I would prefer if TIM played a role similar to the Collector General. He's not directly responsible for his actions, but was tricked, subdued or otherwise coerced into following the whims of the reapers (it better be a damn good explanation too).

[MegaRekyyli]

I'd like TIM to be the new Saren. Think about how cool it would be to fight the Reapers and have the Illusive Man trying to murder you (for some reason) at the same time. TIM would go after your squadmates and crew and basicly there would be two enemies. Cerberus and Reapers.

[hwf]

I'd like to believe they didn't turn the Illusive Man into a throwaway character.
He appeared to me to be at least one step ahead of the curve and making him disposable feels an utter waste of a brilliant character.

Doesn't stop him from being an antagonist - just a temporary one.

[88mphSlayer]

MegaRekyyli wrote...

I'd like TIM to be the new Saren. Think about how cool it would be to fight the Reapers and have the Illusive Man trying to murder you (for some reason) at the same time. TIM would go after your squadmates and crew and basicly there would be two enemies. Cerberus and Reapers.

it'd be as cool as playing the first two games for the 3rd time...

[xxaletalune]

Enough where he's a small boss battle and I can kill his ass.

[Berkilak]

hwf wrote...

I'd like to believe they didn't turn the Illusive Man into a throwaway character.
He appeared to me to be at least one step ahead of the curve and making him disposable feels an utter waste of a brilliant character.

Doesn't stop him from being an antagonist - just a temporary one.

Well, 40% of enemies are Cerberus and he's a confirmed antagonist. I would have rather had those operatives sent to the Collector base (or its remains) becoming indoctrinated in some manner and splitting the organization. I've always seen him as an antagonist... but never someone against Shepard.

[Annarl]

Mesina2 wrote...

A dead one.

Can I second that!:happy:

[Fixers0]

Mesina2 wrote...

A dead one.

No, the dead is too forgiving,

I Would rather bring him on trial, so that he can hear all the crimes that he and his organisation made and he will have to take responsibility for what they have done,

Then, he can live the rest of his miserable live in a prison on a cold-desolated asteroid.

Modifié par Fixers0, 30 juin 2011 - 08:43 .

[Savber100]

Meh. I don't really care if TIM ends up being the Saren of ME3. I hope they would make him more complex though.

[DCarter]

 To me it all depends on why TIM has apparently switched sides. Although obviously the main atangonist in this game should be the reapers and i'd really resent cerberus playing anywhere near as big a role as them.

[The_Illusive]

How major? Major.