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#151
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I think FfC is sort of a hidden masterpiece... There's more to it than meets the eye and away from the grand themes and exualted characters it holds its own well enough.

Point taken Addai!

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Since I've only gotten into the books this year, I can see that dislike for AFfC is likely more in dashed expectations in waiting 5 years to get it and then the 6 year wait to get the other half of it really.

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Just got to the first Arya chapter in DwD, so I think the timeline has now caught up... got about 1/4 left of the book, and I'm already feeling antsy because I know I'll be done in a day or two and I'll have years to wait *sobs* Is there such a thing as preemptive depression?

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Not reading this thread but I only just now got to AFFC and idgaf about any of these minor characters

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SarEnyaDor wrote...

Just got to the first Arya chapter in DwD, so I think the timeline has now caught up... got about 1/4 left of the book, and I'm already feeling antsy because I know I'll be done in a day or two and I'll have years to wait *sobs* Is there such a thing as preemptive depression?


Around 73% here and I feel the same... To answer your question I think it's called 'pessimism', Dolorous Edd is our patron saint!!!:P

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GvazElite wrote...

Not reading this thread but I only just now got to AFFC and idgaf about any of these minor characters


How far in are you? Because it does get better... I left my copy of this book in the bathroom and would pick it up and re-read fragments of it every now and then... And that way grew to appreciate it more... I know... I need help!!!:(

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GvazElite wrote...

Not reading this thread but I only just now got to AFFC and idgaf about any of these minor characters


AFfC is slow to start especially because it dumps the already existing minor characters on you like Sam and then the adds in the Dorne plot which seems to go no where for a long time.

I'm only about 150 pages in ADwD but it truly feels like the second half to AFfC- I know it basically is, but I wouldn't doubt it if somebody tries to edit the 2 books together, cause they really feel like they should be stitched together.

Cause the way the first 3 books went back and forth from the various plots and locations kept everything fresh, while in AFfC, you're lacking certain characters which (IMO) makes it so certain plots get a bit stale, especially when everything seems so disconnected from each other.

I'll just be very curious if GRRM can wrap this up in only 2 books. With the glacial pace of how events are unfolding I'm skeptical. Unless he resorts to having The Winds of Winter start out with a time jump or something of the sort. Because didn't he say somewhere how ADwD (or maybe it was AFfC) would start like 5 years after ASoS?

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He has said that it could stretch out to more than 7 books. The story's not ever really gonna end, right? Unless the ghost grass shows up!

I am enjoying reading the old favorites- haven't gotten to Arya yet- looking forward to that.  Oh and got a big surprise today reading Tyrion's chapters.  Sneaky, GRRM!  Sneaky!!!

Modifié par Addai67, 16 juillet 2011 - 11:34 .


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Oh snap....Bran's second chapter. :o Ever since Hodor, Bran and the Reeds got up to the Wall, I am loving their stuff. Its some of the more interesting bits and yet there is soooo little of it!

Modifié par Brockololly, 17 juillet 2011 - 04:00 .


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Brockololly wrote...

Oh snap....Bran's second chapter. :o Ever since Hodor, Bran and the Reeds got up to the Wall, I am loving their stuff. Its some of the more interesting bits and yet there is soooo little of it!

HODOR!

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Addai67 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Oh snap....Bran's second chapter. :o Ever since Hodor, Bran and the Reeds got up to the Wall, I am loving their stuff. Its some of the more interesting bits and yet there is soooo little of it!

HODOR!


Speaking of HODOR, here is a nice Lego version of Bran riding on Hodor's back with Sansa and Rickon

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Cute!!!

76% and now online searching for a map.

Modifié par Maria13, 17 juillet 2011 - 08:50 .


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Wow that Lego Hondor looks deranged as hell.

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I threw the book when I got to Eddard Stark's end in Game of Thrones and I almost threw the book when I reached the end of Dance With Dragons. Except aGoT was in paperback then and I have a hardback book now. I didn't want to accidentally kill anything with my throw. I'm not a murderer. Like GRRM.

Though GRRM's been a bit of a **** on the killing substantial characters front since aGoT, so 50/50 chance that this is just another cliffhanger on a character's presumed doom only to discover they remarkably escaped death by their next chapter. I'd be happy if that were the case, but I'd respect GRRM more if he stuck to his guns and left them dead.

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Pacifien wrote...
Though GRRM's been a bit of a **** on the killing substantial characters front since aGoT, so 50/50 chance that this is just another cliffhanger on a character's presumed doom only to discover they remarkably escaped death by their next chapter. I'd be happy if that were the case, but I'd respect GRRM more if he stuck to his guns and left them dead.


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Indeed.

#166
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Ugh!! I am distraught. I loved the end because one of my favorites made a long awaited appearance, but then the book was over. Cliff-hangers all over the place leaving me to hunker down to wait the 2.5 - 5.7 years for the next installment to find out what has become of them. *grumble*

New things I learned today - a drop of dragon blood is clearly not enough.



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Some more Game of Thrones lego goodness. Jaime and Littlefinger are better than Ned's.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 17 juillet 2011 - 07:16 .


#167
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I knew it!!!

KING BEYOND THE WALL

At still only around halfway through, this thread has become too dangerous for me. Will have to sign off until I finish.

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Addai67 wrote...

I knew it!!!

KING BEYOND THE WALL

At still only around halfway through, this thread has become too dangerous for me. Will have to sign off until I finish.



...

I won't ask since I'm only on about page 180, but I have a theory in my head that I hope that exclamation means what I think it means after reading how things went down in Jon's 3rd chapter :whistle:

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Just finished the book. It dragged around in some parts, particularly with Dany but it still felt like a wild ride. Enjoyed reading for it very much. Pretty angry too, knowing the wait that's looming. Here's to George's health!
I never knew it was possible to despise the Boltons even more. Daddy Bolton really makes my skin crawl and the son needs to meet with something painful soon.

#170
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I was amused at just how angry I could tell the Bastard Bolton was with that letter.

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Also, massive eyeroll at Aegon.

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 The Meereen plot was the weakest part of the book. There was so much build-up to the battle and actual Westeros characters meeting Dany that I felt disappointed in the end. There wasn't a climax. That, and George really could have trim some of the chapters. 

It's still better than A Feast for Crows.

Also, anyone else notice the impending Greyscale plague that's going to hit Westeros? 

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Oh well my Copy is FINALLY here, dispite actully being at the post office on the 14th and them not droping anything in my box to let me know -_-

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Eski.Moe wrote...

Also, massive eyeroll at Aegon.


I should have expected something like that since book 2. Dany´s vision is about a dragon wih 3 heads. She´s one, R+L=J might be another (depending on how the cliffhanger is resolved), so it should have been obvious there was another living Targaryen.

Hope Aegon takes after Egg from the short tales.

#175
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Ok, I couldn't resist peeking into the thread again. Must get through these last 400 pages!!!

I knew some people would eyeroll about Aegon, but I'm glad GRRM is not one of those people. Love the Targaryens, so far love this little guy, and I do hope he takes after Egg.

Dany's chapters.. I'm having a hard time with them.