The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I'd prefer she takes over Cerberus, if we aren't given the option to completely destroy it.
TIM IS Cerberus.
I think Miranda is gonna have a much heavier role than we think.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:39
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TIM IS Cerberus.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:44
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It is all speculation at this point, we can only state what we want and not what will be. I, for one, would love Miranda to play a big role, she is a well developed (ahem) and has the experience to help Shep in her final battle against the reapers. She had an important role in ME2, I think she will stay by Shep's side now that she is free from Tim's control.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:46
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Seboist wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I'd prefer she takes over Cerberus, if we aren't given the option to completely destroy it.
TIM IS Cerberus.
The Shadow Broker IS the SB organization. But getting rid of him and replacing him with Liara didn't change anything.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:48
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I hope so.
Plot critical like Liara or Ashley/Kaidan? That's out the window. Now, to say that she will be at least as important to the overall plot as Mordin, Tali, Legion, and Grunt were in Mass Effect 2 is in no way a stretch.
Also, good catch by Ieldra comparing Miranda to Garrus. Between ME1 and 2 Garrus fan were kept in the dark until two months before release and even then the leak wasn't intentional. Hell his dossier is still classified on the ME2 site. I'm hoping the reason for the secrecy behind Miranda's role is for the best and that it will all be worth it in the end.
Plot critical like Liara or Ashley/Kaidan? That's out the window. Now, to say that she will be at least as important to the overall plot as Mordin, Tali, Legion, and Grunt were in Mass Effect 2 is in no way a stretch.
Also, good catch by Ieldra comparing Miranda to Garrus. Between ME1 and 2 Garrus fan were kept in the dark until two months before release and even then the leak wasn't intentional. Hell his dossier is still classified on the ME2 site. I'm hoping the reason for the secrecy behind Miranda's role is for the best and that it will all be worth it in the end.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:50
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No ****, she was the hardest person in ME2 to kill other than Shepard.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:50
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with her resigning from cerberus at the end whats to stop the illusive man from handing over her sister to her father or doing something worse?
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 10:55
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Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Given her rank in Cerberus, how she was near impossible to kill off in the Suicide Mission and how Bioware is soo secretive of her for Mass Effect 3, i wouldn't be surprised if she was key to the story.
I have the key to her story right here!
...I'll see myself out.
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Posté 27 juin 2011 - 11:08
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bioware has a huge boner for strahovski.
miranda will be nothing short of a perma-squadmate in ME3.
miranda will be nothing short of a perma-squadmate in ME3.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 02:21
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I'm of two minds.
On one hand, one would think that Miranda, as a high ranking Cerberus agent, would be an important facet to the game. I mean if Cerberus is your enemy, any contacts you have with inside knowledge of Cerberus would be useful. Particularly if as has been pointed out, she could potentially take over Cerberus and put its resources at your disposal.
On the other hand, Shepard could end up saving her from the Reapers, only to have her call you a traitor, you've betrayed everything they stood for, and walk away in a huff...
On one hand, one would think that Miranda, as a high ranking Cerberus agent, would be an important facet to the game. I mean if Cerberus is your enemy, any contacts you have with inside knowledge of Cerberus would be useful. Particularly if as has been pointed out, she could potentially take over Cerberus and put its resources at your disposal.
On the other hand, Shepard could end up saving her from the Reapers, only to have her call you a traitor, you've betrayed everything they stood for, and walk away in a huff...
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 02:55
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I wouldn't mind seeing her forming a splinter group from the Cerberus thats attacking Shepard, that has potential ; cerberus splits into two warring factions one fighting shepard and one fighting for shepard that way it play well with the pro-cerberus people aswell.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:12
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iakus wrote...
I'm of two minds.
On one hand, one would think that Miranda, as a high ranking Cerberus agent, would be an important facet to the game. I mean if Cerberus is your enemy, any contacts you have with inside knowledge of Cerberus would be useful. Particularly if as has been pointed out, she could potentially take over Cerberus and put its resources at your disposal.
On the other hand, Shepard could end up saving her from the Reapers, only to have her call you a traitor, you've betrayed everything they stood for, and walk away in a huff...
1) I could see happening, but 2) even though Shep (and said player) likes her, we're both tired of hearing the "t" word. Besides, if you've been nothing, but loyal to her (took her everywhere + LM) - that'd make her look like a hypocrite because she walked out on TIM (and he nor Renegade Shep is on equal footing exactly).
If it came down to her doing that because of some MAJOR crap you pulled that affected her immensely, (ie: putting Oriana is danger) I could see her walking. Possibly being very angry and hurt by it, but I don't see her turning her back on you unless you did my example intentionally.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:14
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AHA! this thread title is ironic considering all the fat topics surrounding it.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:26
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Skirata129 wrote...
AHA! this thread title is ironic considering all the fat topics surrounding it.
Just stop!!
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:34
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Its the final houre the Reapers are here and have indoctonated almost everyone in the galaxy and Shepard has learned their weakeness. Doing it with a hot biotic chick. Problem is she's got so much baggage that she's gotta go save her sister again AND make amends with TIM.
Sorry Femsheps everywhere and anyone who romanced anyone else your all screwed
:devil::devil:
oh wait thats me!
Sorry Femsheps everywhere and anyone who romanced anyone else your all screwed
:devil::devil:oh wait thats me!
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:41
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Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Given her rank in Cerberus, how she was near impossible to kill off in the Suicide Mission and how Bioware is soo secretive of her for Mass Effect 3, i wouldn't be surprised if she was key to the story.
Going to nitpick here, but I don't know why people perpetuate the idea that one character is any harder to kill in the suicide mission than any other. Don't do their loyalty mission, and take them with you until they die. Easy.
I don't think she'll have any more relevance than any other of your old Cerberus crew. I do imagine, however, that her loyalties will ultimately depend on what you did with her in ME2. If you didn't do her loyalty mission and kept her out of harms way for the suicide mission, I imagine she'll show up somewhere trying to kill you. Otherwise you probably need to help her fend off her former employer.
But it's all speculation until ME3 anyway.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:48
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I have a strong suspicion she is the 'female cerberus' end boss-kinda lady we are supposed to fight. Probably indoctrinated.
If Miranda is with you during your fight against the Human Reaper at the end of the game and you choose to destroy the base she tells TIM that she's resigning. So I doubt you'll be fighting against her as a boss.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 03:56
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Heavier...
*imagines ME3's Miranda with @ss implants*
*imagines ME3's Miranda with @ss implants*
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 04:04
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Honestly, my reaction to this would be
No offense to Miranda fans, but I can't stand her.
No offense to Miranda fans, but I can't stand her.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 04:37
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The genetically enhanced super-vixen will probably take over Cerberus after you beat TIM, just like Liara did to the Shadow Broker.
Only in this case, it makes more sense.
I just cannot reconcile how a shy, innocent person with no resources turns into some super-sleuth, info and power broker in such a short span of time.
Miranda on the other hand has the genetics, the training, and the resources, contacts and everything in place, as well as the ruthlessness needed.
Only in this case, it makes more sense.
I just cannot reconcile how a shy, innocent person with no resources turns into some super-sleuth, info and power broker in such a short span of time.
Miranda on the other hand has the genetics, the training, and the resources, contacts and everything in place, as well as the ruthlessness needed.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 05:23
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She does seem to have to have some kind of major importance to the ME3 story based on the dev twitter thread. In it one of the devs, I believe it may even have been Casey, said that they couldn't really release much of any information on her yet as she played a major part in the story, and there was very little information they could release about her that wouldn't amount to major spoilers.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 05:31
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Warkupo wrote...
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Given her rank in Cerberus, how she was near impossible to kill off in the Suicide Mission and how Bioware is soo secretive of her for Mass Effect 3, i wouldn't be surprised if she was key to the story.
Going to nitpick here, but I don't know why people perpetuate the idea that one character is any harder to kill in the suicide mission than any other. Don't do their loyalty mission, and take them with you until they die. Easy.
I don't think she'll have any more relevance than any other of your old Cerberus crew. I do imagine, however, that her loyalties will ultimately depend on what you did with her in ME2. If you didn't do her loyalty mission and kept her out of harms way for the suicide mission, I imagine she'll show up somewhere trying to kill you. Otherwise you probably need to help her fend off her former employer.
But it's all speculation until ME3 anyway.
Because that's pretty much the only way to be certain to kill her
She can't be selected to run the vents
the seeker swarms will never carry her off
She can't die as a fire team leader
The only way to kill her is to take her unloyal to the final showdown, or to game the Hold the Line so she dies. That makes her harder to kill off than any other squad member.
What her role will be in ME 3 I don't know. But given how limited your options are in getting her killed and the Cerberus involvement, I suspect it'll be pretty central.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 06:08
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Replying to a few things said abovethread:
Oriana:
The Oriana plotline needs to be wrapped up somehow, given that she's in danger of being used to blackmail Miranda. Only I don't want her story to be all about her personal problems again. That would make it seem like she's ignoring the big picture for her personal problems.
Miranda taking over Cerberus:
That's the "Illusive Woman" scenario. One of the fan favorites (not of everyone, of course). Whether she forms a splinter group during ME3 or takes down the leadership with Shepard's help to steer Cerberus in a different direction, I think this is likely to happen, and as Destr1er said, it makes a great deal more sense than Liara taking over as Shadow Broker. It's quite likely nobody but TIM has as much inside information on Cerberus as Miranda, and their resources and information would be invaluable to the war, not to say taking it over would deprive the Reapers of an ally. Assuming, of course, the Cerberus people aren't all indoctrinated.
Miranda as an "indoctrinated boss":
The first item on the fan's "Do Not Want" list ever since we know Cerberus is a big enemy in ME3. I don't think it will happen - she's a popular LI after all.
Miranda calling you a traitor:
Won't happen. Miranda knows that the true enemy is the Reapers. Even should there be some reasoning she's convinced of for Cerberus to work with them, she'd know how things would look from Shepard's side.
Miranda and Cerberus in general:
I find it likely she'll not with be Cerberus no matter what. She's grown to respect Shepard's ability and "fire" in ME2, so she won't follow TIM in going after him even if she didn't resign. The only scenario I could imagine where that would be plausible is an unloyal Miranda in a game where you saved the Collector base. I imagine those games are too rare to seriously consider.
Though if you saved the Collector base and nominally are still with Cerberus, she might have to fight her way out or her old "workplace" before being free to do her own thing.
Miranda in the SM:
Miranda *is* harder to kill, Warkupo. And unlike any other team member, a loyal Miranda is *impossible* to kill. Of course if you game the SM to that end and plan things in advance from her loyalty mission onward, it's not any harder than to kill anyone else, but that's not the point.
Miranda's role in ME3 in general:
I've said she can't be a key player. On second thought, that's not quite true. It's possible no one is really key in the sense that the person is 100% required to be alive except at the start of the game, and I find it very likely that anyone can die in ME3. A certain role may be required, but it's possible that that role can be filled by more than one person. I wouldn't be surprised, for instance, if we got a Virmire-like situation with Miranda and the VS. (*shudder* that would be painful)
Oriana:
The Oriana plotline needs to be wrapped up somehow, given that she's in danger of being used to blackmail Miranda. Only I don't want her story to be all about her personal problems again. That would make it seem like she's ignoring the big picture for her personal problems.
Miranda taking over Cerberus:
That's the "Illusive Woman" scenario. One of the fan favorites (not of everyone, of course). Whether she forms a splinter group during ME3 or takes down the leadership with Shepard's help to steer Cerberus in a different direction, I think this is likely to happen, and as Destr1er said, it makes a great deal more sense than Liara taking over as Shadow Broker. It's quite likely nobody but TIM has as much inside information on Cerberus as Miranda, and their resources and information would be invaluable to the war, not to say taking it over would deprive the Reapers of an ally. Assuming, of course, the Cerberus people aren't all indoctrinated.
Miranda as an "indoctrinated boss":
The first item on the fan's "Do Not Want" list ever since we know Cerberus is a big enemy in ME3. I don't think it will happen - she's a popular LI after all.
Miranda calling you a traitor:
Won't happen. Miranda knows that the true enemy is the Reapers. Even should there be some reasoning she's convinced of for Cerberus to work with them, she'd know how things would look from Shepard's side.
Miranda and Cerberus in general:
I find it likely she'll not with be Cerberus no matter what. She's grown to respect Shepard's ability and "fire" in ME2, so she won't follow TIM in going after him even if she didn't resign. The only scenario I could imagine where that would be plausible is an unloyal Miranda in a game where you saved the Collector base. I imagine those games are too rare to seriously consider.
Though if you saved the Collector base and nominally are still with Cerberus, she might have to fight her way out or her old "workplace" before being free to do her own thing.
Miranda in the SM:
Miranda *is* harder to kill, Warkupo. And unlike any other team member, a loyal Miranda is *impossible* to kill. Of course if you game the SM to that end and plan things in advance from her loyalty mission onward, it's not any harder than to kill anyone else, but that's not the point.
Miranda's role in ME3 in general:
I've said she can't be a key player. On second thought, that's not quite true. It's possible no one is really key in the sense that the person is 100% required to be alive except at the start of the game, and I find it very likely that anyone can die in ME3. A certain role may be required, but it's possible that that role can be filled by more than one person. I wouldn't be surprised, for instance, if we got a Virmire-like situation with Miranda and the VS. (*shudder* that would be painful)
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 06:14
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Even though I hate the idea of anybody but TIM running Cerberus, I could tolerate Miranda taking over if done well.
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Posté 28 juin 2011 - 06:18
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The Spamming Troll wrote...
bioware has a huge boner for strahovski.
miranda will be nothing short of a perma-squadmate in ME3.
God I hope so. Then at least one of the characters I'd want to use in my usual squad would be permanent.
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Miranda and Grunt ftw! Though I also love legion...
