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Are you guys disappointed that Cerberus makes up 40% of the enemies out there?


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Dean_the_Young wrote...

...even the codecies make clear that it's been stockpiling war materials for years, even before ME2.


I've never read any.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

I want to know where Cerberus got the funding to pull this massive army out of its ass.


Indeed. I don't know about novels that much. But they did lose a lot just during ME2.

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40% is better than Mass Effect 2's mercs making up 80% of the enemies.

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Since it's the Reaper invasion that has the potential to wipe out all life in the galaxy, any time spent fighting Cerberus is a waste and a disappointment.  Heck, they ought to be fighting with Shepard, not against Shepard.  Their butts are on the line too, you know... Shepard fails and they're as dead as everyone else.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 28 juin 2011 - 12:02 .


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Nope. Cerberus is a huge part of Shepard's story and I look forward to finishing that plot.

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TIM took Shepard's advice to heart and trained an army for the same amount of money it took to build Shepard.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

I want to know where Cerberus got the funding to pull this massive army out of its ass.

Not only army! They pulled Lazarus Project from same place. And then made them fight. Hell, after that I won't be surprised to find out TIM is a big fan of action movies and organised all the Reapers arrival just to watch all of it in real

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yes

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mrsph wrote...

40% is better than Mass Effect 2's mercs making up 80% of the enemies.


Is that an actual % of how much the mercs take up in ME2? If so 40% for cerberus seems alright i guess.

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yup. I know they're radical but who tries to kill someone they brought back to life when they're the main hope against galaxy extinguishing sentient warships.

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Finding out how Bioware attempts to explain this twist is my main reason for wanting ME3 now.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

yup. I know they're radical but who tries to kill someone they brought back to life when they're the main hope against galaxy extinguishing sentient warships.


Because that person server his purpose, didnt die, and is now standing in the way of the ultimate goal... whatever that could be.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

...even the codecies make clear that it's been stockpiling war materials for years, even before ME2.


I've never read any.


I just googled this:

Counterterror experts speculate Cerberus may have changed leadership with it recent shift to stockpiling ships, agents, and weapons. Whether "he", "she", or "they", the Illusive Man hides his finances behind shell companies. Few doubt he will kill anyone attempting to expose him.


http://masseffect.wi...ations#Cerberus

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Okay, fair enough.

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JukeFrog wrote...

TIM took Shepard's advice to heart and trained an army for the same amount of money it took to build Shepard.


Seems to be the case.

It's even more non-sensical since the Novels say Cerberus got hit hard by  Anderson and the Turians. A lot of Cerberus projects got messed up or plain wiped out as a result. This should mean Cerberus is pretty crippled. Yet apparently they're going to be sending attack teams after Shepard on fairly regular basis.

Either the Illusive Man is throwing everything he has at Shepard or Cerberus has some sort of large paramilitary organization they've managed to kept hidden all this time.

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mineralica wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I want to know where Cerberus got the funding to pull this massive army out of its ass.

Not only army! They pulled Lazarus Project from same place. And then made them fight. Hell, after that I won't be surprised to find out TIM is a big fan of action movies and organised all the Reapers arrival just to watch all of it in real


I really do wonder where Cerberus got all that money. I know they have shell corporations and EDI said Cerberus has access to what appears to be several billion credits a year. However, the Normandy cost at least 240 billion credits. I say this because in ME1 during the snap inspection the first time you return to the Citadel, the admiral that meets you at the dock says that the eezo core of the SR1 is worth 120 billion credits. The SR2 is supposed to have an eezo core twice as large as the SR1's, so that's 240 billion credits right there.

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Shep can find a billion credits on dead people. 240 billion is spare change for Cerebro-us.

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mrsph wrote...

40% is better than Mass Effect 2's mercs making up 80% of the enemies.


This.  At least we're not slaughtering random scum who just happen to be in Shepard's way.

I'm a little curious as to why Cerberus is such a major antagonist this time.  But as long as they tie into the overall story somehow, it'll be a major improvement.

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40% sounds like a lot until you learn there's only 50 enemies in ME3, you kill them all and then spend the rest of the time negotiating or performing renegade interrupts.

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iakus wrote...

mrsph wrote...

40% is better than Mass Effect 2's mercs making up 80% of the enemies.


This.  At least we're not slaughtering random scum who just happen to be in Shepard's way.

I'm a little curious as to why Cerberus is such a major antagonist this time.  But as long as they tie into the overall story somehow, it'll be a major improvement.


Well, for starters, Shepard pissed TIM off (ie: you blew the base) even if you kept it, I thnk he would still "turn" on you and sic his goons on you. And they were unseen, but deemed the enemy in ME1, so that right there tells you that they were going to be what they are now, it just didn't happen in ME2 (not the human version of them anyway)

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Repearized Miranda wrote...

Well, for starters, Shepard pissed TIM off (ie: you blew the base) even if you kept it, I thnk he would still "turn" on you and sic his goons on you. And they were unseen, but deemed the enemy in ME1, so that right there tells you that they were going to be what they are now, it just didn't happen in ME2 (not the human version of them anyway)



I was thinking recently, Shepard is one of the few people who can identify TIM. Maybe there is something that happens at the beginning of ME3 related to this fact that sends TIM off the deep end?

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I don't know what is more startling Cerberus making up 40% of enemies...

or that only around 150 people= 40% of enemies

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Depends on what the remaining 60% consists of.


I would say 40% cerberus 20% reapers 30% husks and 10% others or give back the last 10%  to the husks instead of others.

Modifié par HunterX6, 28 juin 2011 - 01:58 .


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Given the diversity of enemies in Mass Effect this seems too high to me.

I really don't think any enemy type should exceed 30% of the encounters.

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Praetor Shepard wrote...

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Well, for starters, Shepard pissed TIM off (ie: you blew the base) even if you kept it, I thnk he would still "turn" on you and sic his goons on you. And they were unseen, but deemed the enemy in ME1, so that right there tells you that they were going to be what they are now, it just didn't happen in ME2 (not the human version of them anyway)



I was thinking recently, Shepard is one of the few people who can identify TIM. Maybe there is something that happens at the beginning of ME3 related to this fact that sends TIM off the deep end?


I betting the base has something to do with it.

If you notice when he's arguing with you, how desperate - adamant - he is about keeping it - like he has something to hide. He really doesn't give a damn about the technology and the only reason for that is because - he already has it! He's just trying to convince Shepard that he needs it. Who'd put it past him given how he jerked her around in ME2. It shouldn't shock her if he's still doing it or will attempt to again.