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[Bocks]

FitScotGaymer wrote...
if you arent against gay content why are you complaining about it exactly? That is the only thing that i dont follow about your posts.

Here it is:

I am for s/s romance with the characters from Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 under certain circumstances. These circumstances are the following:

The characters are NOT the ones to initiate the gay content. Shepard exclusively has to be the one to initiate the content when we are talking about these characters.

Take, once again, the example of Garrus. In ME1 and ME2 male Shepard players may have seen a friend in Garrus and NOTHING else. However, there is a number of people who want a homosexual romance with Garrus. In light of this, Bioware have to make it so that in ME3, SHEPARD is the one who clicks the [Flirt] option in order to initiate romantic content with Garrus.

This way, people who want homosexual content are free to explore it while heterosexuals who don't want to see Garrus as anything besides a bro don't have to ever see it!

Of course, the issue is different if we are talking about NEW characters like James Vega.

In this case, James can openly ask Male Shepard about a relationship, as his character and personality would not yet be fully defined. If done correctly, it could be good character expansion and progression. People don't know what James Vega acts like or is like, so he would be justified in coming onto Shepard.

[Bocks]

RinjiRenee wrote...

You will not be forced into a
homosexual encounter with your teammates.   Stop being so paranoid, you
might enjoy life a little better.

I'll believe it
when I see it.

skcih-deraj wrote...

Bocks wrote...


Edit: Due to repeated attacks and accusations against me, I am here to say that I DO support s/s romances UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

Sell out much? You took a stand stick with it, if its one thing I cannot stand is a backpeddler! I say defend your self don't compromise your opinion.

*2 cents added*

I never backpedalled. I was always for s/s romances if they are done correctly.

[Zkyire]

Bocks wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...
if you arent against gay content why are you complaining about it exactly? That is the only thing that i dont follow about your posts.

Here it is:

I am for s/s romance with the characters from Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 under certain circumstances. These circumstances are the following:

The characters are NOT the ones to initiate the gay content. Shepard exclusively has to be the one to initiate the content when we are talking about these characters.

Take, once again, the example of Garrus. In ME1 and ME2 male Shepard players may have seen a friend in Garrus and NOTHING else. However, there is a number of people who want a homosexual romance with Garrus. In light of this, Bioware have to make it so that in ME3, SHEPARD is the one who clicks the [Flirt] option in order to initiate romantic content with Garrus.

This way, people who want homosexual content are free to explore it while heterosexuals who don't want to see Garrus as anything besides a bro don't have to ever see it!

Of course, the issue is different if we are talking about NEW characters like James Vega.

In this case, James can openly ask Male Shepard about a relationship, as his character and personality would not yet be fully defined. If done correctly, it could be good character expansion and progression. People don't know what James Vega acts like or is like, so he would be justified in coming onto Shepard.

This is pretty much what I want for all characters of all species, genders and sexualities anyway.

In one playthrough I might want to focus solely on the story and to hell with any and all romances.

Modifié par IEatWhatIPoo, 28 juin 2011 - 02:12 .

[Zkyire]

Roachbugg wrote...

parinoia is evil look what it did to poor stalin.

He turned Russia into a superpower.

Problem?

[Zkyire]

Nyoka wrote...



So Casey Hudson says s/s romances will be reactive to how you interact with them in-game.

Then, 44 days later, you start a thread explaining how horrible it would be if the s/s romance were not reactive to how you interact with them in-game.

I'm more interested in what these "wider options" are, if S/S is only part of it.

..Varren?

[VirtualStranger]

You don't seem to be understand the main issue here, so let me repeat it;
I am NOT against characters coming onto you in ME3, as long as these characters we are talking about are NEW.
Otherwise, Shepard has to initiate s/s romance with previous members of his crew, so as people who have a clear image of the characters as heterosexuals are never forced into seeing gay content.

Honestly, if that is what your entire point was then I just have one thing to say...

Congratulations, that is exactly what the devs have said will happen. Your fears are completely unfounded.

So what was the point of creating this thread again?

[Bocks]

Nyoka wrote...



So Casey Hudson says s/s romances will be reactive to how you interact with them in-game.

Then, 44 days later, you start a thread explaining how horrible it would be if the s/s romance were not reactive to how you interact with them in-game.

You do realise this doesn't mean that the characters won't come onto Shepard, right?

[Bocks]

Nyoka wrote...

You're right, they may be proactive, even when Casey Hudson said they were going to be reactive to you. Or maybe Casey Hudson meant proactive when he wrote reactive. Or maybe he's just lying and you cleverly discovered his cover with your amazing deductive powers.

Ah well. When people are immune to evidence, there is no point arguing.

I'm not immune to evidence. You could say that Tali's romance is "reactive to how you interact with her", but in the end she's still the one who starts it all off.

All I'm saying is that I don't trust the Bioware writers.

[Siansonea]

Wow, 25 pages devoted to "Kaidan/Garrus/Thane/Jacob better not hit on me, man, that would RUIN MY GAME".

[Bocks]

Nyoka wrote...

Yes, yes you are, because I have shown it to you, and you have dismissed it.

I haven't dismissed it. In fact, I hope it turns out to be exactly just Shepard who initiates the romance. But I'm just saying that "reactive" doesn't prove anything. Everything in Mass Effect is "reactive" to your choices.

Siansonea II wrote...

Wow, 25 pages devoted to
"Kaidan/Garrus/Thane/Jacob better not hit on me, man, that would RUIN MY GAME".

Wow, a person who hasn't bothered to read anything at all and jumps to conclusions.

Modifié par Bocks, 28 juin 2011 - 02:32 .

[Medhia Nox]

What's sad is how many times Zevran asks the Warden - "Are you sure this doesn't bother you?" "Are you sure you're okay with my comments?"

But you put a talking lady duck in a vacuum bag - and suddenly it's okay if she's making googly eyes are Shepard.

[ElitePinecone]

Wait.

People have argued for 24 pages because you were afraid characters would approach Shepard instead of the other way around?



"Reactive to how you interact with them in game" = player-initiated romances.

I wouldn't worry. Nobody is going to approach Shepard.

[Rinji the Bearded]

reactive to how you interact w/ them in-game
reactive to how you interact w/ them
reactive to how you interact
reactive

Do I need to tell you what reactive means?

[Zkyire]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Wait.

People have argued for 24 pages because you were afraid characters would approach Shepard instead of the other way around?



"Reactive to how you interact with them in game" = player-initiated romances.

I wouldn't worry. Nobody is going to approach Shepard.

Not even EDI?

That'd be creepy as hell and I'd love every minute of it.

[VegasVance]

Siansonea II wrote...

Wow, 25 pages devoted to "Kaidan/Garrus/Thane/Jacob better not hit on me, man, that would RUIN MY GAME".

I play Sheploo, someone damn well better hit on me or else Bioware wasted money when they had Mark Vanderloo come in and be faceplanted. 

[ElitePinecone]

FFS.

I'm sorry, but if you start a thread on a baseless assumption then initiate 24 pages of discussion because you refuse to take Bioware at face value, I'm more than a little dismissive of your concerns.

Bioware will not repeat the mistake of having same-sex love interests approach the player. They got enough immature, ignorant reactions about Anders. Casey Hudson and every writer on Twitter have said that the romances will be player-initiated. Trust them.

Have at least a modicum of belief in their word.

[Siansonea]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Having charactes being reactive is a great improvement. I'm not comfortable with being hit on, whether by boy or girl, in a game or real life.

Wow, really?! 

Being hit on is AWESOME. It means you're sexeh. Gosh, if I had a nickel for every time some guy or girl hit on me, well, let's say I'd be less worried about my car repair bill. I can't imagine being uncomfortable with somebody telling me that I'm an appealing specimen of feminine loveliness. Maybe it's different for dudes though, who want to be the "pursuer" or somesuch. *shrug*

[Bocks]

Nyoka wrote...

Reactive proves everything. It proves s/s romances will be initiated by Shepard, not by the LI. You will give the first step, (like in the Tali romance, by the way), and THEN they will react to your interest.

Casey Hudson made this clear enough beyond reasonable doubt with his tweet a month and a half ago.

If you want to continue ignoring it, or being willingly blind to it, well, that's too bad about you. Don't try to make it look like this is somehow relevant or new.

One, I already said I hope Bioware stay true to their word, though you will understand if I don't exactly trust them after DA2.

Second, Tali DID initiate the romance dialogue. The player should have been the one to have to start it, not her. Bioware should not have pushed her onto the player through Kelly's comments. If it's "reactive" in the same way that Tali's romance was "reactive", then no thank you. The original characters should never, EVER express their interest unless Shepard prompts them.

Modifié par Bocks, 28 juin 2011 - 02:51 .

[shepskisaac]

Bocks wrote...
One, I already said I hope Bioware stay true to their word, though you will understand if I don't exactly trust them after DA2.

Second, Tali DID initiate the romance dialogue. The player should have been the one to have to start it, not her. Bioware should not have pushed her onto the character through Kelly's comments. If it's "reactive" in the same what that Tali's romance was "reactive", then no thank you. The original characters should never, EVER express their interest unless Shepard prompts them.

Seriously, just stop it. You just want it to keep on going forever because it suits you to dismiss Casey's statement as "ohh they're lying, they won't do it anyway, I don't believe them!". This thread was transparent as hell from the get go and you keep proving you're not interested in any discussion but just want to have your opinion constantly bumped so (like you said) it makes an "impact". Ridiculous.