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[Reapinger]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

I actually thought about that. homosexuality would be detrimental to the perpetuation of the human species, so it could have been weeded out. Then I thought about what would happen if a politician proposed a cure for homosexuality in america and got mental images of public lynchings. wouldn't go over too well.

It would be controvercial I'm sure, but I think in the end demographics would win out. Heterosexuals have more children than homosexuals do and are more likely to specifically prevent it in their children if they have the option. So over a long time homosexaulity would become even more rare than it is today. Much more rare.

People where I live are rather tolerant of homosexuals, so I think that people could only be more accepting over time. 

[Medhia Nox]

What's hilarious is how many fat people are probably posting on this thread.

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As for homosexuality... science has made straight sex no longer relevant.

The sperm and eggs of homosexual people still produce children - I know they don't teach that in biolog, so I figured I'd help out.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 28 juin 2011 - 02:44 .

[wilhelm Screamer]

Volus do not count?

[mauro2222]

Han Shot First wrote...

Fat people should still be disqualified from military service in the future. Simply put, a fat person would not be able to handle the physical demands of either life in the military or combat. So it is realistic that everyone on Shep's team is physically fit. Being physically fit would be one of the prerequisites.

Sure, there should probably be some fat civilians wandering around on colony words or on the Citadel. But I can understand why Bioware didn't devote time to creating character models for them, and I'd rather than time was spent on creating female Turians or new aliens, like the Raloi.

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

[Medhia Nox]

"Desinger babies" is repulsive. You straight people should no longer be allowed to pro-create if you think doing such filthy things to your children is natural.

[KainrycKarr]

Bioware hates fatties.

[Reapinger]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

People where I live are rather tolerant of homosexuals, so I think that people could only be more accepting over time. 

"Tolerant" yes, but if given the choice will most parents choose to have homosexual children? I can't imagine any reason they would. Not most anyway.

Some still might. I'm sure homosexuality still exists in the Mass Effect universe, but very few designer babies would be permitted to develop that way.

Solid point.

[KainrycKarr]

mauro2222 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Fat people should still be disqualified from military service in the future. Simply put, a fat person would not be able to handle the physical demands of either life in the military or combat. So it is realistic that everyone on Shep's team is physically fit. Being physically fit would be one of the prerequisites.

Sure, there should probably be some fat civilians wandering around on colony words or on the Citadel. But I can understand why Bioware didn't devote time to creating character models for them, and I'd rather than time was spent on creating female Turians or new aliens, like the Raloi.

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

Why?

[Skirata129]

mauro2222 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Fat people should still be disqualified from military service in the future. Simply put, a fat person would not be able to handle the physical demands of either life in the military or combat. So it is realistic that everyone on Shep's team is physically fit. Being physically fit would be one of the prerequisites.

Sure, there should probably be some fat civilians wandering around on colony words or on the Citadel. But I can understand why Bioware didn't devote time to creating character models for them, and I'd rather than time was spent on creating female Turians or new aliens, like the Raloi.

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

Realistically the military will always exist. name a time in our history when we have not been at war. now look at our closest relatives- chimpanzees and other primates and name when they haven't had violent conflicts.

[FERMi27]

A bit of offtopic?
Niiice, and this will be the universal fate for all threads like this one. I'll make sure of that.

[tobynator89]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

People where I live are rather tolerant of homosexuals, so I think that people could only be more accepting over time. 

"Tolerant" yes, but if given the choice will most parents choose to have homosexual children? I can't imagine any reason they would. Not most anyway.

Some still might. I'm sure homosexuality still exists in the Mass Effect universe, but very few designer babies would be permitted to develop that way.

What? homosexuality is a genetic thing now?

Social trends also indicate that homosexuals would be allowed to adopt children by this point.

[mauro2222]

KainrycKarr wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Fat people should still be disqualified from military service in the future. Simply put, a fat person would not be able to handle the physical demands of either life in the military or combat. So it is realistic that everyone on Shep's team is physically fit. Being physically fit would be one of the prerequisites.

Sure, there should probably be some fat civilians wandering around on colony words or on the Citadel. But I can understand why Bioware didn't devote time to creating character models for them, and I'd rather than time was spent on creating female Turians or new aliens, like the Raloi.

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

Why?

Because it won't be necessary. In our future our society (hopefully) will reject money, people will work for the advance of our species, all hard work will be automatized, nationalism and patriotism would mean nothing because nations will become extint.

The military are merely a tool of those who fear the people and want even more power. Soldiers should be trained to be problem solvers, not potential brainwashed killers.

[MonkeyKaboom]

Skirata129 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Being overweight is considered a health abnormality, and the establish lore seems to suggest all variations of disease have been eliminated.

Do you think they stopped at obescity, or did they eliminate other abnormalities?

I actually thought about that. homosexuality would be detrimental to the perpetuation of the human species, so it could have been weeded out. Then I thought about what would happen if a politician proposed a cure for homosexuality in america and got mental images of public lynchings. wouldn't go over too well.

If homosexuality were detrimental to reproductive success of the species on the whole, evolution would have taken care to end it by this point via natural selection.  But the fact that over 1500 species have demonstrated homosexual behavior obviates some beneficial effect to survival.  We don't know exactly why yet, but it is there.

[slimgrin]

Fat Asari sound kinda sexy to me. <3

Modifié par slimgrin, 28 juin 2011 - 02:55 .

[FERMi27]

tobynator89 wrote...

What? homosexuality is a genetic thing now?

Social trends also indicate that homosexuals would be allowed to adopt children by this point.

You are one limited salarian.

[Reapinger]

tobynator89 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

People where I live are rather tolerant of homosexuals, so I think that people could only be more accepting over time. 

"Tolerant" yes, but if given the choice will most parents choose to have homosexual children? I can't imagine any reason they would. Not most anyway.

Some still might. I'm sure homosexuality still exists in the Mass Effect universe, but very few designer babies would be permitted to develop that way.

What? homosexuality is a genetic thing now?

Social trends also indicate that homosexuals would be allowed to adopt children by this point.

That doesn't perpetuate homosexuality though. And YES, there is conclusive evidence that homosexual tendencies are genetic. Most people know from birth that they are homosexual or want to be transexual. 

[Hathur]

mauro2222 wrote...

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

Wait.... wait... wait.... just... wait.

Are you telling me.... that you're so naive.... as to think .... that within 100-150 years from now.... human beings will no longer possess:

1) Greed
2) Hatred
3) Envy
4) Aggression
5) Necessity / need

... and countless other variables that make humans the violent mammals that we are? Kindly tell me you aren't so naive and so much of an idealist to think those traits will be bred out of our species in a meagre 2 centuries even.... perhaps in tens of thousands of years... but not in hundreds of years.... not even thousands.

Look at our ancestors 10,000 years ago... we're no different from them today when all is said and done... we kill, harm and fight for the exact same reasons... we've made great technological progress but almost no sociological progress at all.

So long as humans posess the genetic desire to inflict violence (for whatever reason), they will forever have organized forces with which to execute said violence.

Gah... youth these days.... so damned idealistic.

Modifié par Hathur, 28 juin 2011 - 02:57 .

[FERMi27]

slimgrin wrote...

Fat Asari sound kinda sexy to me. <3

You're perversed. Asari are slim and sexy and their Azure is blue, and... let it stay that way. I want a ME game with an asari as the playable character! And to be able to romance everyone.

[Medhia Nox]

@MonkeyKaboom: "We" know, but it isn't customary to share knowledge with the breeding stock.

[mauro2222]

Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Fat people should still be disqualified from military service in the future. Simply put, a fat person would not be able to handle the physical demands of either life in the military or combat. So it is realistic that everyone on Shep's team is physically fit. Being physically fit would be one of the prerequisites.

Sure, there should probably be some fat civilians wandering around on colony words or on the Citadel. But I can understand why Bioware didn't devote time to creating character models for them, and I'd rather than time was spent on creating female Turians or new aliens, like the Raloi.

Realistically, in our world I doubt that by that year the military would even exist.

Realistically the military will always exist. name a time in our history when we have not been at war. now look at our closest relatives- chimpanzees and other primates and name when they haven't had violent conflicts.

Violent behavior has nothing in common with war... If you imply that an individual conflict is the same as a war, then you are saying that a entire nation hates the other and they kill each other because of it.

[Medhia Nox]

@maruo2222 - it's common for people to anthropomorphize animal behaviors. Just look at all the atheists that think their dogs "love" them. Everyone believes in irrational nonsense.

[MonkeyKaboom]

Reapinger wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

People where I live are rather tolerant of homosexuals, so I think that people could only be more accepting over time. 

"Tolerant" yes, but if given the choice will most parents choose to have homosexual children? I can't imagine any reason they would. Not most anyway.

Some still might. I'm sure homosexuality still exists in the Mass Effect universe, but very few designer babies would be permitted to develop that way.

What? homosexuality is a genetic thing now?

Social trends also indicate that homosexuals would be allowed to adopt children by this point.

That doesn't perpetuate homosexuality though. And YES, there is conclusive evidence that homosexual tendencies are genetic. Most people know from birth that they are homosexual or want to be transexual. 

Cultural behaviors such as those found in some native american tribes and the Etoro of New Guinea for instance show that there is a significant element of choice involved as well.  Its not enough to say its genetic.  Nor is it adequate to say gays simply choose to be gay.  Its really a matter of both.  And quite frankly, the idea of homosexuality in the definition we are using is a product of our culture (Judeo Christian, western) and has no application to cultures so different from our own.  Some, again as the Etoro, view what we call homosexuality to be not only normal but a requirement for all male members of society.  There is nothing abnormal about it.

Modifié par MonkeyKaboom, 28 juin 2011 - 03:02 .

[Reapinger]

MonkeyKaboom wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Being overweight is considered a health abnormality, and the establish lore seems to suggest all variations of disease have been eliminated.

Do you think they stopped at obescity, or did they eliminate other abnormalities?

I actually thought about that. homosexuality would be detrimental to the perpetuation of the human species, so it could have been weeded out. Then I thought about what would happen if a politician proposed a cure for homosexuality in america and got mental images of public lynchings. wouldn't go over too well.

If homosexuality were detrimental to reproductive success of the species on the whole, evolution would have taken care to end it by this point via natural selection.  But the fact that over 1500 species have demonstrated homosexual behavior obviates some beneficial effect to survival.  We don't know exactly why yet, but it is there.

It offers no beneficial effects and not enough of a detrimental one. There is no argument that homosexuals perpetuate survival of a species or benefit it. How could you? The very idea is counterproductive. Homosexuals cannot have biological children of their own with their partner barring the most extreme circumstances-- especially in nature. It is an anomaly-- nothing more. That's like having a frog born with no way to reproduce. Sure it happens but it neither helps nor hurts the species because it's a vast minority.