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[mauro2222]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

I'm sure people don't like being fat, so conditioning in the future can change that (heck, we have ways of doing that now). Besides, a fat Shephard wouldn't make sense.

Why not, if we have a fat femmshep we can put her in a volus suit and tadaa! Biotic goddes 

Because Shep is a soldier, an N7 operative at that. Wouldn't they need to be at peak physical conditions?

It was a joke xD

[GreenDragon37]

mauro2222 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

I'm sure people don't like being fat, so conditioning in the future can change that (heck, we have ways of doing that now). Besides, a fat Shephard wouldn't make sense.

Why not, if we have a fat femmshep we can put her in a volus suit and tadaa! Biotic goddes 

Because Shep is a soldier, an N7 operative at that. Wouldn't they need to be at peak physical conditions?

It was a joke xD

Sorry, didn't read your whole comment.

[GreenDragon37]

Rezources wrote...

So fat people want to be fat in video games too?

Who would have thought?

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 28 juin 2011 - 03:59 .

[Skirata129]

mauro2222 wrote...

Humm I didnt know that socialist countries had Private Ownership. If the ****s were socialist the first thing that they would have done is ally with the soviet union xD. Socialism is not perfect yet is better than capitalism. But personally a resource based economy is better. And the fail of that you call socialist countries is the result of uneducation again.

...did you study in school? capitalism- private ownership and trade, little to no government regulation and interference in private business

socialism- restricted trade, government owned or subsidied provate businesses are common, private ownership permitted, government has much more power.

communism- absolute government control, no private ownership, your life belongs to the state and the people and will be used in the manner that best serves the majority.

the n a z i s were socialists in everything including name, they just embraced a political ideaology on top of that that certain races were inherently superior or inferior to others, and that gave them the overall political moniker of fascism. f a s c i s m in case it's blocked.

[Skirata129]

double post

Modifié par Skirata129, 28 juin 2011 - 03:59 .

[Saaziel]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Saaziel wrote...

If we'd have the capacity to modify Human genetics to weed out certain traits ,as was mentioned before. Couldn't we do the same for Violence , Greed and all that jazz?

Unprovoked violence caused by abnormalities in the brain (sociopathy and such)? Yes. "Greed", nationalism, faith, and need though? Absolutely not.

Why do they hold such exemption.

Its very much possible to imagine someone living without a designated affiliation to a territory or piece of cloth on a pole . People every day go about their daily lives without religious faith. If everything one needs is provided , then greed is irrelevant.

"Needs" as a broad statement is too vague to be debated . Note that desires can be described as needs otherwise.

In otherwords , Brain abnormalities are nothing but preferences. A Sociopathic society wouldn't consider sociopathy as abnormal at all.

Modifié par Saaziel, 28 juin 2011 - 04:03 .

[mauro2222]

Rezources wrote...

So fat people want to be fat in video games too?

Well they have the right to want it, but having it in the game is pretty pointless, is not discrimination but obese people are sick and is not healthy

[GreenDragon37]

Wow, this thread got waaaaaaaay off topic!

[DoNotIngest]

Rezources wrote...

So fat people want to be fat in video games too?

I guess people get attached to making a face by making a mouth & lips with their belly rolls and looking around with their manboob eyes?

Imagine the conversations!

[GreenDragon37]

mauro2222 wrote...

Rezources wrote...

So fat people want to be fat in video games too?

Well they have the right to want it, but having it in the game is pretty pointless, is not discrimination but obese people are sick and is not healthy

Plus you are a trained military field operative. It just wouldn't make sense.

[mauro2222]

Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Humm I didnt know that socialist countries had Private Ownership. If the ****s were socialist the first thing that they would have done is ally with the soviet union xD. Socialism is not perfect yet is better than capitalism. But personally a resource based economy is better. And the fail of that you call socialist countries is the result of uneducation again.

...did you study in school? capitalism- private ownership and trade, little to no government regulation and interference in private business

socialism- restricted trade, government owned or subsidied provate businesses are common, private ownership permitted, government has much more power.

communism- absolute government control, no private ownership, your life belongs to the state and the people and will be used in the manner that best serves the majority.

the n a z i s were socialists in everything including name, they just embraced a political ideaology on top of that that certain races were inherently superior or inferior to others, and that gave them the overall political moniker of fascism. f a s c i s m in case it's blocked.

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

[GreenDragon37]

How did this conversation go from "fat people in ME" to economic theory?

[Skirata129]

I think you missed out on quite a few political details as well. by that time the Soviet Union hardly qualified as a communist state anymore as it was controlled by the totalitarian regime of Joseph Stalin, a dictator who killed literally millions of people in purges. hitler also held virtually unlimited authority in germany and his goals to "lead the aryans to their destiny" led to him trying to conquer as much of europe and the world as possible.

[Medhia Nox]

I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't asking for Shepard to be fat.

This notion that "science will cure all of our ills" borders on the religious. It's frightening.

There will of course be fat people..... 200 years into the future (the timeline for ME)

[darklordpocky-san]

I remember playing Oblivion and in the tournament, the leader told me that my next opponent wielded an axe as big as a child.

I was like: "there are children in this game!?"

[GreenDragon37]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't asking for Shepard to be fat.

This notion that "science will cure all of our ills" borders on the religious. It's frightening.

There will of course be fat people..... 200 years into the future (the timeline for ME)

Of course there can be fat civilians. But really, do you know many people who actually like being fat? Considering all of the health risks that go with it?

[mauro2222]

Skirata129 wrote...

I think you missed out on quite a few political details as well. by that time the Soviet Union hardly qualified as a communist state anymore as it was controlled by the totalitarian regime of Joseph Stalin, a dictator who killed literally millions of people in purges. hitler also held virtually unlimited authority in germany and his goals to "lead the aryans to their destiny" led to him trying to conquer as much of europe and the world as possible.

I know that but you still think that the n a z i s were socialist when they hate socialism, they believe in the will of nations, a strenght capable of take their country to his full potential by the need of a capable lider, they reject the idea of a solidarity union.

[Skirata129]

mauro2222 wrote...

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America, and I think we're crossing definitions here. Communism is a more extreme form of socialism, while capitalism is free of it. Socialism is usually used to describe a mix of the two extremes and is present in varying degrees in a large number of countries, from the US itself to Europe. Currently the US is becoming increasingly socialist and less capitalist.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Well clearly Bioware is behaving like a bunch of weightist bigots by not including fat people. Shepard should be able to be fat, there should be fat LIs, there should fat people running around naked on the Normandy.

[Skirata129]

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We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
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9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
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18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate [/i]political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
( Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.
© All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.
Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, [/i]and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
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The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.







bar about 5-8 of those and that's pretty much a solid socialist agenda. plus their official name was the national SOCIALIST party.

Modifié par Skirata129, 28 juin 2011 - 04:15 .

[Seboist]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well clearly Bioware is behaving like a bunch of weightist bigots by not including fat people. Shepard should be able to be fat, there should be fat LIs, there should fat people running around naked on the Normandy.

What about anorexic people? They have a right to be represented too!