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WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America, and I think we're crossing definitions here. Communism is a more extreme form of socialism, while capitalism is free of it. Socialism is usually used to describe a mix of the two extremes and is present in varying degrees in a large number of countries, from the US itself to Europe. Currently the US is becoming increasingly socialist and less capitalist.


Well that explains a lot, dont feel offended but your goverment do a lot for keeping you ignorant. Communism is a ramification of socialism, it doesnt involve nothing of capitalism, thats why real communism doesnt have money, and socialism is the same as communism but it doesnt include the elimination of money an divided work.

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Now that you mention different Sheps, Handicap Shepard wooooould be interesting.

Wheelchair Shep...naow!

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Fat people don't exist in the future. With genetic screening, the fat genes are weeded out.
We have several countries in the real world that are making obesity illegal. Maybe that is standard practice in the ME Universe.
Better to use those resources to expand and colonize space than to feed some fatties, and treat their self inflicted health problems.

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What's hilarious is how many fat people are probably posting on this thread.

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As for homosexuality... science has made straight sex no longer relevant.

The sperm and eggs of homosexual people still produce children - I know they don't teach that in biolog, so I figured I'd help out.


How in God's name was scientific research required for that discovery?

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Fat people don't exist in the future. With genetic screening, the fat genes are weeded out.
We have several countries in the real world that are making obesity illegal. Maybe that is standard practice in the ME Universe.
Better to use those resources to expand and colonize space than to feed some fatties, and treat their self inflicted health problems.


Yeah, all the communist and socialist (because they're the same thing) countries.

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mauro2222 wrote...

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mauro2222 wrote...

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America, and I think we're crossing definitions here. Communism is a more extreme form of socialism, while capitalism is free of it. Socialism is usually used to describe a mix of the two extremes and is present in varying degrees in a large number of countries, from the US itself to Europe. Currently the US is becoming increasingly socialist and less capitalist.


Well that explains a lot, dont feel offended but your goverment do a lot for keeping you ignorant. Communism is a ramification of socialism, it doesnt involve nothing of capitalism, thats why real communism doesnt have money, and socialism is the same as communism but it doesnt include the elimination of money an divided work.


that depends of what source you use. the definition you are using is far less common. Socialism in the vernacular generally applies to mixed systems that favor socialism over capitalism.  also, you missed the post where I pointed out the similarities between the N A Z I party and socialist ideals.

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Fat people don't exist in the future. With genetic screening, the fat genes are weeded out.
We have several countries in the real world that are making obesity illegal. Maybe that is standard practice in the ME Universe.
Better to use those resources to expand and colonize space than to feed some fatties, and treat their self inflicted health problems.


Yeah, all the communist and socialist (because they're the same thing) countries.

not neccesarily. Japan is doing it which is something somewhat unique to their culture. The government has far more control over the private individual than other countries, but they also have virtually free capitalism. (to my understanding at least. I haven't put that much study into that system)

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Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America




South, North? Which country? You're being very unclear here.

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Destr1er wrote...

Fat people don't exist in the future. With genetic screening, the fat genes are weeded out.
We have several countries in the real world that are making obesity illegal. Maybe that is standard practice in the ME Universe.
Better to use those resources to expand and colonize space than to feed some fatties, and treat their self inflicted health problems.


Yeah, all the communist and socialist (because they're the same thing) countries.

not neccesarily. Japan is doing it which is something somewhat unique to their culture. The government has far more control over the private individual than other countries, but they also have virtually free capitalism. (to my understanding at least. I haven't put that much study into that system)


Yeah, I know. I'm just screwing with you.

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We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.
We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.
8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.
9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate [/i]political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
(B) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.
© All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.
Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, [/i]and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.







bar about 5-8 of those and that's pretty much a solid socialist agenda. plus their official name was the national SOCIALIST party.


The name means nothing. And having socialist ideas doesn t makes them socialist .And having the ideas and doing the contrary, clearly shows they were not socialist. If they wouldnt have a state and private ownership, then they could be socialist

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So... off... topic!!

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Bread makes people fat... there will be no bread in the future!!

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Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America, and I think we're crossing definitions here. Communism is a more extreme form of socialism, while capitalism is free of it. Socialism is usually used to describe a mix of the two extremes and is present in varying degrees in a large number of countries, from the US itself to Europe. Currently the US is becoming increasingly socialist and less capitalist.


Well that explains a lot, dont feel offended but your goverment do a lot for keeping you ignorant. Communism is a ramification of socialism, it doesnt involve nothing of capitalism, thats why real communism doesnt have money, and socialism is the same as communism but it doesnt include the elimination of money an divided work.


that depends of what source you use. the definition you are using is far less common. Socialism in the vernacular generally applies to mixed systems that favor socialism over capitalism.  also, you missed the post where I pointed out the similarities between the N A Z I party and socialist ideals.


I know that I have a real source when the info doesnt say "this is better because the other is ****" xD, and the info comes from the two sides, so I compare points of view.

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

WHAT? what the hell they teach you in school? socialism doesnt have any private ownership. wait from which country are you? in communism there is not such thing as state, money, or divided work.

America




South, North? Which country? You're being very unclear here.


sorry. haah, too used to just saying that. Georgia, USA. lived all up and down the eastern seaboard though.

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I know that I have a real source when the info doesnt say "this is better because the other is ****" xD, and the info comes from the two sides, so I compare points of view.

if there was a point there I completley missed it. From a purely historical point of view Capitalist systems experience more growth than Socialist ones. the exceptions are standoffs like Venezuela where they have the good fortune to be sitting on a veritable gold mine of oil.


edit: also, I studied all the systems and reached my point of view independently. I also came up with some very interesting theories about what makes someone more likely to follow socialist doctrine and so far I've yet to find myself contradicted.

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

So... off... topic!!


Jaja xD

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So, how about that Calamari Gumbo?

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I know that I have a real source when the info doesnt say "this is better because the other is ****" xD, and the info comes from the two sides, so I compare points of view.

if there was a point there I completley missed it. From a purely historical point of view Capitalist systems experience more growth than Socialist ones. the exceptions are standoffs like Venezuela where they have the good fortune to be sitting on a veritable gold mine of oil.


Of course, capitalism is based on (ah **** I cant remember the word in english)... high rates of production ( yeah thats the only thing that passed through my head) in order to obtain profit. Those countries produce more, yes. They growth more, yes. But in order to improve this they need automatization, and capitalism is profit by fast production, so they replace human with tech, when the years pass, more humans are replaced by tech and so on, so you have in a long way a lot of poverty with people who cand affor education so they cant have real jobs so they stay poor. Ignorant = easy to manipulate.

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not so. the population just becomes increasingly specialized and trained to fill niche roles and becomes increasingly white collar. and capitalism is just based on the theory that if you have something someone else wants, and he has something you want, and you trade, you both profited.

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@Skirata - that sounds so utopian. Sign me up!

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there's no such thing as a utopian society. Capitalism is just the closest one to it as it produces the greatest amount of happiness for the greatest number of people.

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not so. the population just becomes increasingly specialized and trained to fill niche roles and becomes increasingly white collar. and capitalism is just based on the theory that if you have something someone else wants, and he has something you want, and you trade, you both profited.


Thats barter. And how they become specialized if they have no money? Is the real expirience of my country, we have so much ignorant people that they are manipulated to vote someone, and they vote, they dont want to study because they cant have real jobs because they cant afford nothing, so they steal, and they kill, people complain and they are not heard because they are minorities.

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there's no such thing as a utopian society. Capitalism is just the closest one to it as it produces the greatest amount of happiness for the greatest number of people.


Perfection is not possible. Change is posible and you are to closed in your country. While your country growth the third world countries become more poor, is a real fact. And greatest number of happy people is the 20 to 10 percent of global population.

People have fear of change I dont know why, I am not propposing utopia, I am propposing a change for better.

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what country are you in? I'm assuming its south american because of the way you typed your laugh earlier.

plus, a monetary system is really just delayed bartering. I'm trading my goods or services for a product that can be used to procure other goods and services. it's just more versatile.


also, it's actually in our interest to develop third world countries as quickly and efficiently as possible. a developed country is producing and earning money, which they can use in the global economy. Businesses are just getting very shy of investing in third world countries as their governments have a nasty tendency of waiting till all the infrastructure is in place and then nationalizing it. businesses can't operate at a loss.

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what country are you in? I'm assuming its south american because of the way you typed your laugh earlier.

plus, a monetary system is really just delayed bartering. I'm trading my goods or services for a product that can be used to procure other goods and services. it's just more versatile.


Yeah it WAS versatile, but is has become old. The progress of our species is blocked by the need of money, our tech is not correctly developed because better tech, healthy tech, is expensive. The sun provides all the energy to feed the earth in a single minute, yet is not correctly used because big companies will loose money, if they loose money they would not support the politicians anymore. In modern times we have the tech to automatize every hard work in the earth. And I am from Argentina, so yes I speak spanish (which is in europe please, for those who dont know) that why i laught whit jaja :P