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Why not bring EVERY squademate back in ME3?


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MysticMage44

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So apparentrly in ME3 the reapers come and try to annihilate all organic sentient life in the galaxy. So stopping them would be kinda important. Right? SO important that what could possibly be more important that a squadmate would refuse aiding shpeard on his mission to stop the reapers. I mean every previous squademate knows what shepard is up against and knows how important it is that he succed. What could they possibly be doing that is more important than helping shep saving EVERYTHING. The answer: NOTHING. Oh look I have to protect fertile Krogan Female. How about if the Reapers win EVERY SINGLE KROGAN (and every other eace out there) WILL DIE. Seriously.

Modifié par MysticMage44, 28 juin 2011 - 04:35 .


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impractical. too much crap to write. Just imagine writing lines for 12 characters for all scenes. mind boggling difficult.


and **** in me2 it was just too much damn squadmates. I was only using 3 tops. I like 5, i just wish we didn't get the same wankers from me2 (aka Tali and Garrus)

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Deeper relations with the squadmates we get. It might not make sense story wise, but it would gameplay wise. IMO I would rather have fewer squadmates and more dialogue with them than bringing everybody back and only get a few conversations like in ME2.

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I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam

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Even if Bioware had infinite money and time, I do not want every single squad member back. It is just too many, I'd never have time to use many of them much, and I do not want 90 hours of recruiting/old friend meetings and loyalty missions, and 90 minutes of the main story after all the recruiting and babysitting is done. Looking at you ME2.

I want the main story to be the star, not a rotating cast of squaddies.

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Fenris: You might as well say, "If they flew into the sky, they could live in the clouds."

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The less squadmates you have, the less voice acting you need, more money to other things, and the smaller cast gets more backstory and has more to say.

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Like I said, it doesn't make sense in the story itself, which sucks, but it really is too many. I guess it's their fault for bringing in that many to begin with. At least we'll get the chance to play with each of them, even if it isn't permanently.

Modifié par Jayman1337, 28 juin 2011 - 04:50 .


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MysticMage44 wrote...

I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam


Bioware: Money > Logic.

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MysticMage44 wrote...

I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam


I think it will not be a situation where someone won't join you becaus they have an appointment with a very exclusing hair stylist the next day.

More likely Mordin will be working on some new tech for  you, and be much better used in a bazillion dollar cutting edge lab.

Wrex will likely be trying to united a whole race of Krograns to fight when needed. Sure he'd join you in a heartbeat, but as badass as he is, he realizes a couple million or billion Krograns are worth him doing something other that carrying a shotgun for you.

Samara-I got nothing, never used the character and barely explored her motivations past killing her crazy spawn.

There are plenty of reason for ex-squaddies to be doing important stuff, that doesn't involve sitting on the Normandy until you bring them out of their bunks and use them once every couple missions.

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I think OP expects the Reapers to act like the bad guys in any cheap martial arts movie, and attack Shep and his squad one at a time.
What has his old squad got to do thatsmore important than helping Shep out indivicually?
Wrex: Uniting the Krogan race under one banner
Samara: Gathering the Justicars to be battle leaders for the Asari Forces
Mordin: R&D to fnid Reaper weaknesses.
Zaeed: Take control of the Blue Suns, and lead guerilla raids on Cerberus bases
Grunt: Same as Zaeed, only he leads the Blood Pack.

Theres plenty for them to do, you are just too shortsighted to see it.

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Like Kileyan said, I doubt the reasons are going to be as vapid as you seem to imagine they might be. Tali and Wrex could rally their people, Mordin could be working on the genophage cure so you have MOAR Krogans to fight with you, and things of that nature.

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King Zeel wrote...

MysticMage44 wrote...

I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam


Bioware: Money > Logic.


It's BioWare, stroy trumps all.  Watch an early intervire for The Old Republic.  If you take a shot of vodka for everytime you read/hear the word story you will DIE form alcohol posioning. 

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Honestly, some of those characters would be better off rallying the troops or working behind the scenes than in Shepard's squad.

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Every squadmate will be back. Just not as traditional squadmates.

If Wrex and Mordin can strengthen the krogan, and broker agreements between the krogan and salarians, wouldn't you rather see them do that then sit around on the Normandy?

From the limited information we have about squadmates, I see your squadmates showing off their skills, and just how capable they are, even without Shepard. And that's not to say they won't be squadmates for the whole game. We still don't know how it works, so for all we know people could be popping in and out of the Normandy the whole time. Honestly, I prefer it this way. It feels like that badass crew you gathered to take on the Collectors are more than just Shepard's henchmen. They are all experts in their own right, and are able to help Shepard on a much larger scale than 'point and shoot'.

Of course, this is all assuming squadmates will work a certain way. If it turns out Mordin's just off hunting geth to make a lamp...well, that's a different story.

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

I think OP expects the Reapers to act like the bad guys in any cheap martial arts movie, and attack Shep and his squad one at a time.
What has his old squad got to do thatsmore important than helping Shep out indivicually?
Wrex: Uniting the Krogan race under one banner
Samara: Gathering the Justicars to be battle leaders for the Asari Forces
Mordin: R&D to fnid Reaper weaknesses.
Zaeed: Take control of the Blue Suns, and lead guerilla raids on Cerberus bases
Grunt: Same as Zaeed, only he leads the Blood Pack.

Theres plenty for them to do, you are just too shortsighted to see it.


Was going to write basically this.

All be it a little more politely, manners cost nothing people.

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OK point taken. I guess they could be working on the war effort beyond standing next to Shepard in the battlefield. Other than Wrex, I don't see how each alien character can rally there race. I mean as strong as they are there not all leaders to their people. Hell a lot of people hate your squadies. I guess they can be doing other war effort related things though.

Modifié par MysticMage44, 28 juin 2011 - 05:08 .


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more people= less dialogue
less people= more dialogue

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Toshir wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

MysticMage44 wrote...

I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam


Bioware: Money > Logic.


It's BioWare, stroy trumps all.  Watch an early intervire for The Old Republic. 


Play Dragon Age 2. Take a shot every 30 seconds of gameplay you last.

Suffice to say, I'll see you tomorrow.

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No. I would rather potentially important plot-related characters stay out of Shepard's squad in order to further the overall story of ME3.

For example -

Garrus: No influence in galactic politics nor the Turian Hierarchy = perfect contender for permanent squadmate

Mordin: Has access to the Genophage cure, one of the most brilliant minds in the galaxy, able to influence Salarian government and STG = better off advancing the plot

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MysticMage44 wrote...

OK point taken. I guess they could be working on the war effort beyond standing next to Shepard in the battlefield. Other than Wrex, I don't see how each alien character can rally there race. I mean as strong as they are there not all leaders to their people. Hell a lot of people hate your squadies. I guess they can be doing other war effort related things though.


You bring up a good point; some of your squadmates aren't exactly who we would think of as galactic leaders. That, and some don't have a background that would tie into being useful.

Like Jack. What exactly would she do, other than be on Shepard's squad? She knows no one, is destructive, and isn't  a leader or team player. The only thing I could think of is her and Grunt teaming up and leading the Blood Pack. And that's mostly because I want to see her with a flamethrower.

It'll be interesting how they play it, that's for sure. 

Modifié par CheeseEnchilada, 28 juin 2011 - 05:21 .


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King Zeel wrote...

Toshir wrote...

King Zeel wrote...

MysticMage44 wrote...

I'm talking from a story perspective though. It really just wouldn't make sense for any of the squad-mates to refuse helping Shepard

Shepard: This it it everyone. The fate of the galaxy is in our hands. The reapers must be destroyed and destroyed now. I will need everyone to give 110%.

Samara: Uhh. Sorry Shepard. I have this thing to go to...

Wrex: Can it wait, Shepard. It's my mother's birthday tomorrow.

Mordin: Sorry. Can't. Must go shopping for a new lamp tomorrow. Very sorry.

Shepard: /faceplam


Bioware: Money > Logic.


It's BioWare, stroy trumps all.  Watch an early intervire for The Old Republic. 


Play Dragon Age 2. Take a shot every 30 seconds of gameplay you last.

Suffice to say, I'll see you tomorrow.


I was about to buy it but I was told not to.,  Sitll haven't played it. Is it really that bad? I loved the first one, I don't know how you can eff that up.

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Toshir wrote...

I was about to buy it but I was told not to.,  Sitll haven't played it. Is it really that bad? I loved the first one, I don't know how you can eff that up.

It's not the train wreck some people exaggerate it to be, but it's nothing like the original.

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I can do without some squadmates...Zaeed for example. Dude looks like he has downs.

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Toshir wrote...
I was about to buy it but I was told not to.,  Sitll haven't played it. Is it really that bad? I loved the first one, I don't know how you can eff that up.


I played the demo, made a rogue, and figured that was enough for me. For some reason, being a rogue now means youre an acrobatic ninja in battle, doing all sorts of somersaults to amaze your friends and confound your enemies. <_<