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[montana_boy]

Novus82x wrote...
Bioware is quickly becoming my favorite developer. I just can't believe they are releasing DA and ME2 in a matter of a few months. So friggen stoked for ME2.

Hey when you have EA behind you you can do just about anything... all that money, tons and tons of it.

[DeXCasas]

If MW2 gains goty then goty trully means nothing, i mean the campaign was short, disjointed and confusing. Sure it had its moments, its fun to shoot with one hand while driving a rubber boat with the other but it just has senseless popcorn action film written all over.

[Volrathil]

I am just glad it is a different game other than the rehashed crap that is most often released today. I swear if I see a Sims 25, or grand theft auto 37 I am going to pluck my eyes out.

[Pocketgb]

While it's a bit of a niche game I wouldn't be surprised if it at least won a couple of awards.

@ Spike TV:...eeeengh...

I will always appreciate them giving the newest Guild Wars expansion a good review, though.

Modifié par Pocketgb, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:58 .

[Novus82x]

Yah I guess you guys are right. F the mainstream. It's kind of like music. The highest selling music today is usually garbage.



I think the video game industry is just being consumed by it's own popularity. Companies are catering to the common casual short attention span gamer so they can make more money. I just think it's sad that COD (even if it does what it does well) is hailed as such an amazing game when the actual single player portion is so short. It honestly, at it's core, is the same thing with better graphics. DA follows a familiar formula but the experience is so much more deep and thought provoking. It's whole new world to experience.



My gripe mainly comes from the desire to have the video game industry pushed in a more mature direction. And by mature I don't mean more boobs and blood (although it never hurts). I want games that are on the level of great films. I want video games to be more engaging and thought provoking. FPS's are fun from time to time but they are a dime a dozen and are purely dumb entertainment that doesn't give me anything that helps me grow as a person. I think video games should move more to an enriching form of entertainment as apposed to "something to do because I'm bored".



IDK, maybe I'm just getting old. lmao

[JaegerBane]

To be honest I'd be surprised if Bioware are that bothered what the 'The Industry' think. DA:O was clearly made for the hardcore RPG audience. They've made a game that is simultaneously profitable and conforms to their own ethics regarding treating games as an art form.

[Novus82x]

Yah I guess you guys are right. F the mainstream. It's kind of like music. The highest selling music today is usually garbage.



I think the video game industry is just being consumed by it's own popularity. Companies are catering to the common casual short attention span gamer so they can make more money. I just think it's sad that COD (even if it does what it does well) is hailed as such an amazing game when the actual single player portion is so short. It honestly, at it's core, is the same thing with better graphics. DA follows a familiar formula but the experience is so much more deep and thought provoking. It's whole new world to experience.



My gripe mainly comes from the desire to have the video game industry pushed in a more mature direction. And by mature I don't mean more boobs and blood (although it never hurts). I want games that are on the level of great films. I want video games to be more engaging and thought provoking. FPS's are fun from time to time but they are a dime a dozen and are purely dumb entertainment that doesn't give me anything that helps me grow as a person. I think video games should move more to an enriching form of entertainment as apposed to "something to do because I'm bored".



IDK, maybe I'm just getting old. lmao

[FalloutBoy]

GDC awards are the only awards that matter, and they don't start voting until the year is over (imagine that!).

[spernus]

DeXCasas wrote...

If MW2 gains goty then goty trully means nothing, i mean the campaign was short, disjointed and confusing. Sure it had its moments, its fun to shoot with one hand while driving a rubber boat with the other but it just has senseless popcorn action film written all over.

I don't know if you or most people on this site are actually in a favorable position to talk of game of the year.

If I hear modern warfare 2 over and over again,it's because you probably do not own a Playstation 3?  No mention whatsoever of Demon's soul,which is very close to dragon age on metacritic?  If you strickly play PC games,there's no way you are in a position to talk about games of the year when Sony doesn't release exclusives outside of it's platform.

The best rated game in 2009 is Uncharted 2 by a mile and it's going to win more game of the year award than the competition,it's simple as that.

[iounas]

If it doesnt win the best pc game than the awards are crap..

I cant think of another game that could win it

[Psython]

This stuff started happening as soon as gaming became a profitable industry. Money drives the making of games now for a lot of companies. I think gaming changed a lot when things like target audiences and marketing came into the medium. Its true that MW2 made 5.5mil of gross profits in the first week but EA spend 2 mil marketing the game! Yes 2 million dollars. For that much money they better win GOTY! Its funny they spend twice as much on marketing as they did making it.



As long as mainstream people stay dumb the games will stay dumb. However, as long as there are people who care about art, artists will still create. The fact that a game like dragon age, which is somewhat as intellectually challenging as reading a short book at the high school level can be made and sell well is astonishing.



I can only hope that someone out there who has never played a "real" game with a story can discover this game and hopefully discover something about themselves while they play. That makes all the hard work worth it I think.



Congrats on the success Bioware.

[Raxtoren]

This GOTY?
Your kidding right?

I mean atleast in fantastic games like Uncharted,MW2 and Kz2 your experience doesnt have to suck because you choosed the wrong class or skill tree. I mean for ex if you specced in daggers with dextertity it doesnt work, while I never played any of the mentioned games to realise later that bullets doesnt work... lol.
Infact the whole story in DAO felt like LOTRO, you need to find allies with men,dwarfs and elf then protect your capital.
wow, how did Bioware come up with that?

I think DAO was a great game ,but GOTY? stop drinking the cool aid.
I know its a bioware forum and all, but tehre is a reason why for ex MW2 sells a lot more, its pure gold in SP & MP, and Bioware doesnt even support MP this time.

And look at Dragon Age DLC, it didnt even work and they charged you money on day1.its a greedy company, so enough about the pr-stuff and hype around MW2 and how it fools people, Bioware is worse.
They charge you for dlc that didnt even work on the 360 on day 1, they didnt care about testing it, nope - day 1 its out and not working but money they should have for it.

disgusting.

And not that the DLC didnt even work on console, it took me 20 min also to finish.
Wtf?!

Modifié par Raxtoren, 20 novembre 2009 - 10:43 .

[AtreiyaN7]

On my personal list, DA:O is pretty much GOTY out of all the new games that I've played...which apparently isn't that many this time around looking at my desktop right now, but I only pick up the quality games anyway.

[KalDurenik]

It will never get Game of the Year. It require more pew pew graphics. Anyway i like the game and i do suggest it to all my friends ... Even some of my friends that have pirated it are going to get it now

[fatale-sirens]

I agree. I was the only one on my friends list who bought Dragon Age (unless they got it on a different platform), I think its because nearly all of them choose Modern Warfare 2 or Left 4 dead 2 over DA:O. I told them it was great but guess I couldn't get them to cave...

I'm sorry I failed you guys.

[Goosegear]

@ Raxtoren

Yeah you can make a terrible build. Who know being a archer wearing robes using taunt while wielding a dagger would be a bad idea.... lol

You can compare it to lord of the rings if u look at the basic outline sure. but thats where it stops, no worse of a story behind 99% of all games/movies/books..ect. If you cant appreciate the time that when into the actual story it self then plz stay with lame-o FPS and thier riviting story arch of.."hey start here kill stuff. go there kill more stuff. and..oh no big explosion. kill that thing...wait is that npc going to talk..wait no false alarm, just shoot it"

MP doesnt make all games great, i know might seem weird that there is some people who like to still play single player games out there.





i have to agree with novus82x. who knows maybe im getting old myself but ive stoped buying alot of games due to the fact game designers pump out these games that are enthralling as a episode of dora the explorer and as long as a a episode of robot chicken..

I dont mind a well made shorter game. something that was fun or enthralling that made me want to play agian, but thats hardly what happens lol.

[KalDurenik]

Its okey together we shall spread the word of DAO and soon it will rule the world... ... ...

Also RPGS > RTS > Everything else

[jalford1980]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

This game will never be GOTY because of rabid MW2 fanboys and the like have a 3 second attention span.. I mean, I like a shooter as much as the next guy but MW2 has a 2 hour campaign and multiplayer almost identical to MW1. none of that matters though, it is a shoe-in for GOTY much like Titanic was shoe-in for so many awards despite being a trite piece of crap.

couldnt of said it better myself.

[Acemath]

I'd rather play a "intelligent"game with 10 other people over the world,then playing a stupid shooter with a gazillion.This means that those 10 people have an eye for quality

[Inhuman one]

game of the year isnt only about the latest releases though, earlier this year some big titles where released as well.



Empire total War and the sims3 are considered big names too, although I dont think the sims3 deserves any awards since its a standard sequel that does not improve the AI at all while that is the most important part of the game.



Empire total war will probably win the strategy game of the year award, I dont doubt that at all but it might be tough competition for Dragon Age on other awards such as pc game of the year and such.



Its a great game though, really improves the series after some of the first bugs and issues where fixed. Sieges are a bit weird, but thats always been the case, medieval 2 did not include moats of any kind for example which where very important in the defence of castles and cities.



Aside from that it has good graphics, the AI can be challenging, many nations to play as, all kinds of improvements to the series such as melee animations more advanced than those of Dragon Age, naval combat added as well, walls and houses can be used for cover, etc..



Personal tastes can differ of course, but in no particular order I think that the following games are the best releases of this year:



-Dragon Age.

-Empire Total War.

-Assasin's Creed 2 (not played yet, good expectations though)



There are more games I enjoyed this year such as Smackdown VS Raw 2010 and Halo ODST, but while those are fun, they dont deserve any rewards, it doesnt really do anything new and its just some small improvements to an existing franchise.

[fatale-sirens]

KalDurenik wrote...
Its okey together we shall spread the word of DAO and soon it will rule the world... ... ...

Also RPGS > RTS > Everything else

Oh yes I like that logic. :]

[Andoul]

Not all FPS's are Foaming at the mouth 3 second attention span games. Arma2 for instance, if you just go of running and gunning in that game your going to get yourself killed before you get a chance to reload.

[Sarakinoi]

Don't underestimate the appeal of MW2 as a GOTY... It broke the record for profits with 550 millions $ in the first 5 days alone. Just so you know, this beats profits from the best selling books (harry potter), best selling movies (batman :the dark knight), and best selling video game (GTA4, which made 500 millions). It also broke the record for first day sales, btw.

Who said you needed to inflate profit from DLCs to make profit?

You will say to me that this is just money talk. But a game would not sell that well if it was not fun, and if it was not liked by a lot of players.

And the competition is hard this year. Between Anno (quality game, possibly even more replayability than DA, etc), Batman arkham asilum (again excelent quality, awesome all around game, flawless experience,etc) and a few others like empire total war and the yet to be seen assassin creed 2... so it is not a clear cut. Especially that DA is lacking on some aspects like the less than mature gameplay mechanics and class system, the few technical problems with savegames DRM, items, classes, and abilities not even working as their description, etc.

But as for RPG of the year, no question it will be DA for sure... It is far ahead of everything else in this category.

Modifié par Sarakinoi, 20 novembre 2009 - 11:32 .

[Shaggytbj]

DA:O reminded me so much of the feeling of immersion i had when i was playing Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 no game but DA:O have given me same amount of immersion and excitement, I just hope we will see alot of expansions / DLC in a decent time frame, waiting sens BG 2 to DA:O have been too long!

GOTY awards dont mean anything to me as i dont know of any that really takes time to measure up games and styles and the standard set into the genre, all thats important is that the target audience (us RPG geeks!) loves it and and give Bioware all the feedback we can both negative and positive so we help improving the game as much as possible. And two thumps up to Bioware for making so many high quality games. Hopefully DA brings in a high cash flow so EA wont in any way stop future follow ups.

Modifié par Shaggytbj, 21 novembre 2009 - 12:21 .