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[Zem_]

Cross the streams!

[Persona RED]

If push comes to shove, they could just turn the sun into a black hole

[medcsu]

Mass Effect 2 started to hint about "Dark Energy/Matter". I think this will have a major part to defeating the Reapers as it is powerful enough to destroy a Sun.

[The Unfallen]

How bout we just kill the damn thing?

[ODST 5723]

medcsu wrote...

Mass Effect 2 started to hint about "Dark Energy/Matter". I think this will have a major part to defeating the Reapers as it is powerful enough to destroy a Sun.

Mass Effect 1 started the hinting as disruptor torpedoes used by the Alliance Navy use dark energy to essentially create a warp in space/time that tears the target apart.

They are apparently slow, and thus easy to take out from range.  They also are supposed to be able to bypass kinetic barriers, though they weren't used on Sovereign, that we saw, until after its barriers had failed.

[Fear_me_leader]

A great biotic wind/ biotic god duh

[MegaBadExample]

Global warming!

[PnXMarcin1PL]

broadcast scat movies galaxy-wide
reapers will explode immediately

[ODST 5723]

Legion of Grunt wrote...

ODST 5723 wrote...

medcsu wrote...

Mass Effect 2 started to hint about "Dark Energy/Matter". I think this will have a major part to defeating the Reapers as it is powerful enough to destroy a Sun.

Mass Effect 1 started the hinting as disruptor torpedoes used by the Alliance Navy use dark energy to essentially create a warp in space/time that tears the target apart.

They are apparently slow, and thus easy to take out from range.  They also are supposed to be able to bypass kinetic barriers, though they weren't used on Sovereign, that we saw, until after its barriers had failed.

That's what the big power shot the Normandy used to finish off Sovereign? I always wondered what that thing was.

Aye, likely launched from Javelin pods.  These would be the same or similar weapons used on the Collector Cruiser if you didn't upgrade to the Thanix Cannons.  I believe it took 2 salvos to take out the Cruiser, which meant that the engagement was much closer and the SR-2 took more damage than if the weapons were upgraded.

It's still unknown if they can penetrate a Reaper's kinetic barriers since they're so much more powerful than anything the Council races have, but those torpedoes did a number on an unshielded Sovereign and a shielded Collector Cruiser.  That alone makes them a potentially devastating weapon in the war if used right, and prove that Dark Energy can not only be weaponized, but that the Alliance may have technology capable of taking out the enemy.available and on more than one ship.

If those are the same weapons used in the E3 footage of the geth base Reaper encounter, then shielded, they may not have had enough punch to bypass Reapers shields the way they can with against the typical ships they encounter.  It's also unknown how those torpedoes are affected by atmosphere as compared to an engagement in space.

Regardless, since ME tech that deals with ME fields that manipulate dark energy, it would appear to me that if humans have found a way to take existing tech based on what the Reapers left for us and found new ways to use it that weren't anticipated or part of the plan, then they could have an advantage.  Perhaps in addition to genetic diversity and compatability, the use of dark energy weapons is part of what makes the Reapers interested in humanity.

Modifié par ODST 5723, 29 juin 2011 - 04:53 .

[Epsilon330]

I honestly think that the answer lies with the Klendagon Mass Accelerator (y'know, that supposedly took out the Derelict Reaper?). TIM says it was defunct when Cerberus found it, but then again, how do we know he was telling the truth? BioWare hasn't stated the exact point that TIM became indoctrinated, so it's possible the weapon is in working order, but TIM lied about it to prevent Shepard and Co. from looking for it, in order to protect the Reapers.

[ODST 5723]

Epsilon330 wrote...

I honestly think that the answer lies with the Klendagon Mass Accelerator (y'know, that supposedly took out the Derelict Reaper?). TIM says it was defunct when Cerberus found it, but then again, how do we know he was telling the truth? BioWare hasn't stated the exact point that TIM became indoctrinated, so it's possible the weapon is in working order, but TIM lied about it to prevent Shepard and Co. from looking for it, in order to protect the Reapers.

I'm of the mind that TIM's immune to indoctination as a side-effect of his partial transformation by that Reaper object.

He supposedly hears them whispering and understands their language, but does not appear to have lost any of his indiviuality or his mind.  I think his working with the Reapers will be another in a long line of calculated risks and misdirections for a play at an end-game that he hasn't revealed which he hopes will lead to human dominance in the galaxy.

[Epsilon330]

ODST 5723 wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

I honestly think that the answer lies with the Klendagon Mass Accelerator (y'know, that supposedly took out the Derelict Reaper?). TIM says it was defunct when Cerberus found it, but then again, how do we know he was telling the truth? BioWare hasn't stated the exact point that TIM became indoctrinated, so it's possible the weapon is in working order, but TIM lied about it to prevent Shepard and Co. from looking for it, in order to protect the Reapers.

I'm of the mind that TIM's immune to indoctination as a side-effect of his partial transformation by that Reaper object.

He supposedly hears them whispering and understands their language, but does not appear to have lost any of his indiviuality or his mind.  I think his working with the Reapers will be another in a long line of calculated risks and misdirections for a play at an end-game that he hasn't revealed which he hopes will lead to human dominance in the galaxy.

Maybe so, but that still indicates that he is working with the Reapers and wishes to protect them. And stopping Shep from finding the one weapon that can kill them is a logical precaution.

[D.Sharrah]

Part One (and this is the hard part)

Obtain the tears of Chuck Norris.

Part Two

Splash the tears of Chuck Norris on the Reaper like holy water on a vampire.

Part Three

Sit back and watch the Reaper melt like the witch after Dorothy throws water on her.

[JackhammerGR]

Strap a sh*tload of thrusters in Uranus and throw it at them...

It's useless anyway...

[Mixon]

Sabotage it! Or find weapon wich can destroy planets and use it agains them.

[SalsaDMA]

ODST 5723 wrote...

Regardless, since ME tech that deals with ME fields that manipulate dark energy, it would appear to me that if humans have found a way to take existing tech based on what the Reapers left for us and found new ways to use it that weren't anticipated or part of the plan, then they could have an advantage.  Perhaps in addition to genetic diversity and compatability, the use of dark energy weapons is part of what makes the Reapers interested in humanity.

Carriers with Space fighters carrying Javelins.

Humans were the only ones to come up with this idea according to the codex, and I can imagine a swarm of bombers carrying upgraded javelins or maybe even thanix cannons (if the Turians can get the weapon mounts small enough) is able to outright ruin any reapers day (or night).

[nitrog100]

Whatever mass accelerator weapon blasted a chunk out of that one planet...

[N17]

Prolly go with the "Independence Day" idea. We give them a cold.

[AC5]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Carriers with Space fighters carrying Javelins.

Humans were the only ones to come up with this idea according to the codex, and I can imagine a swarm of bombers carrying upgraded javelins or maybe even thanix cannons (if the Turians can get the weapon mounts small enough) is able to outright ruin any reapers day (or night).

The thanix cannon is a very overrated weapon it's slow projectile velocity severely limits it's effectiveness, also it's a gun which forces the equipped vessel to get in close and line up a shot thus exposing itself to fire. On top of that is the large power requirements would likely mean that a thanix cannon fitted to a fighter would need to be reduced in size to such a state that it might not be worth carrying.

Also you should take in to account that since it is a reaper weapon it's characteristics likely went into the design of their own defenses.

I do agree with you on torpedoes though as large expendables generally sacrifice range not hitting power to be mounted on smaller platforms, also ranged guided munitions tend to provide their carrier with means to avoid fire either through range or off boresight capability.

[Greenlock]

well reapers are essentialy cyborgs... so we can assume they can be suseptible to all kinds of weaponry...biological...chemical... nuclear...just have to find what works best and an easy way to deliver it to the reaper ;] and btw the derelic reaper was khm..."dead" i dont think that youd whanna be inside a living reaper... btw theres something vry interesting about reapers... do they all have...decks wich enable ppl to move around or this goes only for sovereing and the derelik reaper... the first having to carry geth an saren around the second being infiltrated by a cerberus science unit...they made decks... what if if all have decks...well...who and why made them LOOOL....