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[DoNotIngest]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

There was nothing wrong with Jacob's romance, or the way FemShep talked to him.

But the Priiize...

[AdmiralCheez]

[quote]Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

What are some things you think that go against the ME-playing consensus?[/quote]
Lots of things, but I'll do yours first.

[quote]I'll start:

-- ME would be better/more orignial if the asari were replaced by a more alien race like the quarians.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]-- The krogan genophage is justifiable and not worth curing at this point.[/quote]
I have trouble taking sides on this issue, which is the point.
[quote]-- The hanar are worthless and BW should not waste a shred of disc space on putting Blasto in ME3.[/quote]
You are a sinful creature.  Get out.
[quote]-- Zaeed is not a morally-reprehensible character.[/quote]
He isn't.
[quote]-- Samara is worse than her daughter.[/quote]
In certain ways.
[quote]-- "The Great Lie" about Jacob Taylor is that he is normal. He is actually the most bizarre individual in the series.[/quote]
That hinges on your definition of "bizarre."
[quote]-- If you think the turian councilor is too hostile, you are/were probably a sheltered child.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]-- Punching Khalisa bint-Sinan Al-Jalani is a stupid thing to do.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]-- Renegade scarring/red-eyes is hawt.[/quote]
Eh, not my style.  However, those cybernetic bits should be given more attention.
[quote]-- Jack does not need hair, nor should she be redesigned so more people can tolerate her.[/quote]
Preach it, brother!
[quote]-- Garrus is not much of a "bro" to Shepard. The only character that can rationally hold that moniker is Wrex. ("Shepard! My friend!")[/quote]
Wrex and Garrus are both bros, bro.
[quote]-- More action/missions is prefferable to a bigger Citadel for mere exploration, asit was in ME2.[/quote]
Agreed.  Big spaces are silly if they're mostly empty.  Not that there shouldn't be more to explore, but seriously, there are other ways to make places seem bigger other than making it take forever to get somewhere.
[quote]-- The Hammerhead > The Mako.[/quote]
If the Hammerhead had the Mako's shields and guns, it would be a god.

[quote]*puts on hardhat and takes cover* that's it for me. Gooooo!!!!!
[/quote]
-- Shiala is kind of lame.  I don't get why everyone likes her.
-- Biotics are not underpowered.
-- Soldiers are not boring.
-- I enjoy gameplay and story equally.
-- Hale was better in ME1, Meer was better in ME2.
-- We need a batarian squadmate.  Not an elcor, volus, hanar, or yahg, but a batarian.
-- Turians, krogans, and salarians are not mammals.  Therefore, their women should not have boobs.
-- Samara is a brilliantly done character.
-- Jacob is actually a pretty cool guy.
-- The anti-Tali people are worse than the hardcore Talimancers.
-- Default Shepard's face is creepy as all hell.

[Labrev]

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

1) No it wouldn't - they're no less alien than anything else. The most alien beings we've encountered are The Keepers due to their size and the Rachni... due to their size.
2) No it's not. Genocide, no matter how gentle, is NEVER acceptable. It's a big galaxy, there were other ways.
3) Obviously wrong - Blasto is a legend.
4) Agreed.
5) Disagree - Gotta take the rough with the smoothe.
6) I found Jacob so generic I didn't pay enough attention to him to think he was weird or normal.
7) He's an **** - this is all.
8) Agreed. I'm not against punching women - I believe completley in total equality for everybody, punching somebody on TV when you're in a position of trust and power in a society that puts it's trust in you is not smart.
9) Nothing wrong with glowing eyes, but lore wise, the whole "If you think this way blah blah blah" is stupid. Should have come out and said "REAPER TECH TO THE FACE!" The actual scars though, meh.
10) Agreed. She's punk made manifest.
11) News Flash - Just In: People Show Emotion In Different Ways, Doesn't Detract!
12) No - there should be both.
13) Stop trolling. The Mako should be a full Squad Member, voiced by Chuck Norris.

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

2) Genophage is a raw deal for the krogan, but it's much better than having them overpopulate the galaxy and cause far more problems.

11) So a "friend" is someone who has a grand total of 1 casual conversation with you in the whole length of your mission, while preferring to do calibrations all day long otherwise?

12) I'd prefer the former to the latter in the event that cuts have to be made.

13) My opinion on the Mako is genuine. I truly hate it and would much rather have a ship that can move worth a damn. Chuck Norris? What is this, 2006?

[Seboist]

Wrex and Jacob show far more kinsmanship than Garrus who acts more like like a disciple and a fan.

[SynheKatze]

Adepts are pretty effective on Insanity.

[Dannyboy9876]

Jack is fine.
Samara is not as bad as her daughter.

I do agree on your Turian Councilor thing though. He's a realist, I don't blame him for not believing Shep.

[Sheppard-Commander]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

How so exactly? Asari have altered heads, skin color and an entirely different way of reproduction.

Turians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Salarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Batarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Drell? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.

[Sailears]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

-- The hanar are worthless and BW should not waste a shred of disc space on putting Blasto in ME3.

This isn't aimed at you OP, but as more of a side note - Blasto isn't the only hanar in existence, although you'd think that were the case reading through these forums.

[ZLurps]

Making almost every squad mate romancable felt stupid, I just wanted to be a friend!

[lilco]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
11) So a "friend" is someone who has a grand total of 1 casual conversation with you in the whole length of your mission, while preferring to do calibrations all day long otherwise?

to be fair, Wrex doesn't have that much to say either... apart from the hug and some nostalgic dialogue.

though, Wrex is awesome. in my opinion he is Shep's best bro, right alongside Garrus.

[DoNotIngest]

Cheez, get out of my head!

[KingJason13]

The "streamlining" of ME2, over ME, was incredibly disappointing to me. (wait... is this against the grain, or, with the grain... ?)

[Reever]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Cheez, get out of my head!

Hehe, I could say that as well. Apart from Shiala (I´m...neutral towards her...) and Shep´s face (okay, the Rape Face IS creepy ) I agree with everything. And for me, Hale and Meer are just different. So I don´t really compare them ( FemShep has a more emotional speech IMO, while Sheploo doesn´t. But he´s a soldier, so he could just be that way )

[Labrev]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

-- "The Great Lie" about Jacob Taylor is that he is normal. He is actually the most bizarre individual in the series.

That hinges on your definition of "bizarre."

Managing to talk, and yet, say absolutely nothing every time you are spoken to. Thinking "what just happened?" after every said conversation.

Kinda lame you don't find out anything meaningful from him. Stuff like his encounter with Ish unless he's actually there with you. Or the fact he has special-tactics training from the Alliance until you see options for Suicide Mission specialists. He just stands around saying "mayne, this mission be some kinda suicahde!"

He's the one person who should be able to relate to Shepard the most (ex-Alliance turned Cerberus operative) but nope. His social skills are laughably bad for someone who's supposed to be the "stablizing" figure. Or when Grunt, Jack, Legion, even EDI all act more human than he does and don't make me feel nearly as awkward when talking to them.

I'll give him this though, it's nice to have a character I flat-out hate. Makes it more real when there's somebody you don't like, for no major reason but pure dislike.

[Dannyboy9876]

I still can't believe people think Samara is a bad person.

[Siansonea]

Hmmmm, unpopular opinions?

Withholding the evidence in Tali's trial is morally wrong. Rael'Zorah was a war criminal, his crimes should be a matter of public record, regardless of Tali's feelings.

Killing Shiala is morally wrong. She had surrendered, and she had just given Shepard a crucial piece of the puzzle that enables Shepard to stop Saren.

Joker is a pain in the a§§, and more trouble than he's worth. Seth Green's performance is overrated.

Garrus is boring. Can we get a self-calibrating main gun? His Sidonis mission was basically a retread of his settling a score with Dr. Saleon. Is everything about revenge and breaking the rules with Garrus? *yawn*

Wrex is one-dimensional. "Hello, I'll be your wisecracking caricature of a badass for this game".

Tali wanting to sleep with Shepard is "understandable", but Shepard going along with it is creepy/exploitative.

Kaidan and Ashley's dressing down of Shepard on Horizon was all kinds of AWESOME.

Tela Vasir's dressing down of Shepard on the rooftop patio of Azure is more kinds of AWESOME.

Cerberus are CRIMINALS. Shepard is an IDIOT for working with them without exhausting every other avenue of help FIRST.

Resurrection is idiotic. Resurrection just to reset the skill trees and create a time jump is even more idiotic.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 28 juin 2011 - 10:09 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Seboist wrote...

Wrex and Jacob show far more kinsmanship than Garrus who acts more like like a disciple and a fan.

Jacob isn't interested in being your friend until the end of the game when SUDDENLY BROTASTIC.  He is incredibly honest, though, which is a sign that he trusted you.

Garrus came across as extremely loyal (which is part of friendship), but not as a "fan."  Yes, he thinks you are a better, stronger person than he is (I feel that way about some of my friends), but he also isn't afraid to directly oppose you (try arguing with him in his LM--yes, you can talk him down eventually, but he's stubborn as hell about it and only lets up when he examines things for himself).  He also teases you and goofs off in your presence, which shows he is very comfortable around you (keep in mind how uptight he is otherwise).  You are free to disagree, of course.  That's the point of this thread.

No arguments against Wrex being a bro, though.  Less admiration and more mutual respect with him, however.

Another one I have: I do not want to put a bullet in anyone's head, desire revenge against anyone, or think anyone is stupid and shouldn't be in the game.  Other than Harbinger.  I have never wanted to kill something more than I've wanted to kill Harbinger.  What a dick.

[Wolf_in_the_Meadow]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

1) No it wouldn't - they're no less alien than anything else. The most alien beings we've encountered are The Keepers due to their size and the Rachni... due to their size.
2) No it's not. Genocide, no matter how gentle, is NEVER acceptable. It's a big galaxy, there were other ways.
3) Obviously wrong - Blasto is a legend.
4) Agreed.
5) Disagree - Gotta take the rough with the smoothe.
6) I found Jacob so generic I didn't pay enough attention to him to think he was weird or normal.
7) He's an **** - this is all.
8) Agreed. I'm not against punching women - I believe completley in total equality for everybody, punching somebody on TV when you're in a position of trust and power in a society that puts it's trust in you is not smart.
9) Nothing wrong with glowing eyes, but lore wise, the whole "If you think this way blah blah blah" is stupid. Should have come out and said "REAPER TECH TO THE FACE!" The actual scars though, meh.
10) Agreed. She's punk made manifest.
11) News Flash - Just In: People Show Emotion In Different Ways, Doesn't Detract!
12) No - there should be both.
13) Stop trolling. The Mako should be a full Squad Member, voiced by Chuck Norris.

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

2) Genophage is a raw deal for the krogan, but it's much better than having them overpopulate the galaxy and cause far more problems.

11) So a "friend" is someone who has a grand total of 1 casual conversation with you in the whole length of your mission, while preferring to do calibrations all day long otherwise?

12) I'd prefer the former to the latter in the event that cuts have to be made.

13) My opinion on the Mako is genuine. I truly hate it and would much rather have a ship that can move worth a damn. Chuck Norris? What is this, 2006?

1) So what you're saying is that in the entire galaxy, there cannot be two species that looks superficially similar? Life as we know it needs incredibly specific circumstances to quicken - if life on this planet had not formed at the time it did, then it wouldn't have. Ever. As we have no evidence for forms of life that form differantly than ours, it is simple to assume to assume that a planet with a similar age to our own, with similar conditions could produce a species at least vaguely similar to our own. Beyond this, it is possible that all sapient life in the ME galaxy shares some similar origins as it is possible that each previous galactic generation has visited the origin planets of each species before the cull. Is it improbable? A little. More improbable than a magic element that allows us to bypass relativity without learning to manually effet the Higgs-Boson? No.

2) Destroy all the relays in their space, they'd self regulate the same way they did before they were uplifted because due to population gorwth they wouldn't have enough food to fly for months, and even if they did, it would be easier to colonise all the planets inbetween relays than expand and waste resources on war. Just one solution off the top of my head,

11) I have friends, I'd die or kill for them, but we don't talk that much. I'm a very private person and I need a lot of space. That's who I am. Just 'cos I don't drop what I'm doing and hump your leg every time you walk by doesn't mean I'm not your friend.

12) Agreed. But seriously, look at Skyrim. Shoudn't be an issue.

13) "Chuck Norris" is a meme... it has no relation to actual reality at this point, unless you believe that in 2006 it was true that he was the reason the dinasaurs were wiped out - that he fell to earth beard first? The Mako was a tank. The Hammerhead is a sportscar. In a war... I'll leave the sportscar at home.

AdmiralCheez wrote...


-- Default Shepard's face is creepy as all hell.

This - a thousand times this. I saw one shot of him in a trailer and I thought "Why does he look like a psychotic rapist?!"

[Labrev]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

How so exactly? Asari have altered heads, skin color and an entirely different way of reproduction.

Turians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Salarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Batarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Drell? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.

On paper that might sound plausible, but you can't honestly look me in the eye and tell me that Asari look as different from humans as the other four races.

It should also be said that the "builds" of the turians and salarians are also very different from humans. Salarians are taller and lankier than your average human, turians also taller but more sizeable.

[Neria Rose]

l DryIce l wrote...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

I hope you know I now look forward to your posts .

[Wolf_in_the_Meadow]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

How so exactly? Asari have altered heads, skin color and an entirely different way of reproduction.

Turians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Salarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Batarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Drell? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.

On paper that might sound plausible, but you can't honestly look me in the eye and tell me that Asari look as different from humans as the other four races.

It should also be said that the "builds" of the turians and salarians are also very different from humans. Salarians are taller and lankier than your average human, turians also taller but more sizeable.

And Asari would all look female to humans, all have what looks like mammary glands, but reproduce a-sexually, and with any race.

So similar to us...

Modifié par Wolf_in_the_Meadow, 28 juin 2011 - 10:18 .

[Dannyboy9876]

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

1) The only physical difference between asari and human females is that they are blue and have tentacle heads. That's it. They are far less alien than any other race in ME.

How so exactly? Asari have altered heads, skin color and an entirely different way of reproduction.

Turians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Salarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Batarians? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.
Drell? altered heads and skin. wow. still bi-peds.

On paper that might sound plausible, but you can't honestly look me in the eye and tell me that Asari look as different from humans as the other four races.

It should also be said that the "builds" of the turians and salarians are also very different from humans. Salarians are taller and lankier than your average human, turians also taller but more sizeable.

And Asari would all look female to humans, all have what looks like mammary glands, but reproduce a-sexually, and with any race.

So similar to us...

Turians and Salarians feel the same.

MIND****

[Isaidlunch]

- There are way too many charm + intimidate options. In some cases they magically solved and ruined interesting conflicts eg Tali + Zaeed's loyalty missions.
- The Alliance should frame someone else for Shepard's Batarian incident if it's possible.
- Morinth is one of the best characters of ME2.
- A lot of the ME1 voice acting sounds forced and awkward.

[Whatever42]

Wolf_in_the_Meadow wrote...

l DryIce l wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

l DryIce l wrote...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Since your statement is an absolute, we can assume you are Sith. 

What if I'm just a Jedi that doesn't understand  logic? Maybe you're the Sith. Only a Sith would assume another to be a Sith. 

[sarcasm]Yeah, everyone one on the Jedi council is a Sith 'cos they assumed that Maul and Sidious were Sith. [/sarcasm]

I heard that the Sith use sarcasm too! Damn, they're everywhere!