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[88mphSlayer]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

What are some things you think that go against the ME-playing consensus?

I'll start:

-- ME would be better/more orignial if the asari were replaced by a more alien race like the quarians.
-- The krogan genophage is justifiable and not worth curing at this point.
-- The hanar are worthless and BW should not waste a shred of disc space on putting Blasto in ME3.
-- Zaeed is not a morally-reprehensible character.
-- Samara is worse than her daughter.
-- "The Great Lie" about Jacob Taylor is that he is normal. He is actually the most bizarre individual in the series.
-- If you think the turian councilor is too hostile, you are/were probably a sheltered child.
-- Punching Khalisa bint-Sinan Al-Jalani is a stupid thing to do.
-- Renegade scarring/red-eyes is hawt.
-- Jack does not need hair, nor should she be redesigned so more people can tolerate her.
-- Garrus is not much of a "bro" to Shepard. The only character that can rationally hold that moniker is Wrex. ("Shepard! My friend!")
-- More action/missions is prefferable to a bigger Citadel for mere exploration, asit was in ME2.
-- The Hammerhead > The Mako.

*puts on hardhat and takes cover* that's it for me. Gooooo!!!!!

the only thing worth arguing about is that you would use a hardhat when taking cover... obviously you should take a helmet

[Brand New]

Most people hate Kaiden/Ashley for being xenophobes, but just about all the characters you meet in game are. Hate them

[DoNotIngest]

Brand New wrote...

Most people hate Kaiden/Ashley for being xenophobes, but just about all the characters you meet in game are. Hate them

The world will be a better place when everybody hates everybody.

[Abispa]

Hmm. In order:

1) I think that the Asari are fine, though I wish they looked more alien and/or androgynous and not so human. Yes, I remember the bachelor party scene, but that makes no sense since there are photographs and movies featuring Asari.
2) I think a reasonable argument could be made FOR the genophage, though I personally would try to cure it.
3) The Hanar as depicted so far SEEM worthless, but I'll have to wait till ME3 comes out to see if they are truly a waste of time.
4) Zaeed is a moral vacuum and a tool to be used and then discarded.
5) Samara is not worse than her daughter, but I'd hardly consider her "good," "just," or admirable.
6) Jacob Taylor and Miranda BOTH suffer from confused writing by committee IMHO.
7) Not too hostile, just written as too simple.
8) Hitting her was a way to role play Shepard as a douche. Both paragon and renegade verbal options put her in her place and enhances Shepard's credibility.
9) Very, very, sad.
10) She unlikable, ignorant, and reprehensible. That's a good thing and she should stay that way.
11) Wreav is my bro, punk.
12) This is the end, and all roads should lead us to it with minimal diversions.
13) The Mako LITERALLY made me throw up.

[Greatsultan]

Jacob is the most interesting character in ME universe

and I agree with all OP's opinions

[Kaiser Shepard]

The series would, from my perspective, be so much better without the whole Reaper angle. I'd rather deal with grey/grey (or grey/black) intergalactic politics than the almost absolute evil the Reapers are presented to be.

[Abispa]

Mash Mashington wrote...

l DryIce l wrote...

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

and Jedi

Alcoholics, too. By the bottle.

[yfullman]

1. Garrus is overrated and the source of all his own problems 'Wah! I don't like rulez!! Screw C-sec Im gonna start ma own squad!111'
2. The quarians attempted to commit genocide and got what they deserved. If they attempt to fight the geth they will be raped. It wont even be close. They should try diplomacy and pray the geth are more reasonable than their creators were.
3. Jacob is one of the only trustworthy people in all of Shepard's crew and he gets crap for not being a murderer or a psychopath.
4. The genophage was a warcrime and the move a cowardly race.

[yfullman]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

The series would, from my perspective, be so much better without the whole Reaper angle. I'd rather deal with grey/grey (or grey/black) intergalactic politics than the almost absolute evil the Reapers are presented to be.

I think the whole thing with the Reapers will end up being in the grey area.  It just black and white from our perspective because we don't want to die.  They must have reasons for doing what they do besides just to make more of themselves

[Rockworm503]

[quote]Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

What are some things you think that go against the ME-playing consensus?

I'll start:

-- ME would be better/more orignial if the asari were replaced by a more alien race like the quarians.
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hmmm maybe but I like the asari as is so whatever
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-- The krogan genophage is justifiable and not worth curing at this point.
[/quote] I think it was justifiable when it was used but the Krogan don't deserve extinction
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-- The hanar are worthless and BW should not waste a shred of disc space on putting Blasto in ME3.
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Blasphemy I'm still waiting for the Blasto tv show (come on Bioware you know you wanna)
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-- Zaeed is not a morally-reprehensible character.
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Totally agree he's just a badass with a heart of gold
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-- Samara is worse than her daughter.
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Maybe but she sure ain't half as scary
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-- "The Great Lie" about Jacob Taylor is that he is normal. He is actually the most bizarre individual in the series.
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He's abnomal on how normal he is I mean isn't it a requirement to be emotinally scarred to be on the Normandy?
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-- If you think the turian councilor is too hostile, you are/were probably a sheltered child.
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Nah he's not too hostile he's just an idiot with power
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-- Punching Khalisa bint-Sinan Al-Jalani is a stupid thing to do.
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No way man that should be mandatory to beat the reapers (just you wait punching reporters is their weakness)
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-- Renegade scarring/red-eyes is hawt.
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mmm its hard to pull off but Shepard can make tapoica sexy
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-- Jack does not need hair, nor should she be redesigned so more people can tolerate her.
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The hair has nothing to do with it honestly.  Her personality makes piranahs ashamed to be near her
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-- Garrus is not much of a "bro" to Shepard. The only character that can rationally hold that moniker is Wrex. ("Shepard! My friend!")
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Garrus is the Batman he doesn't need a bro
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-- More action/missions is prefferable to a bigger Citadel for mere exploration, asit was in ME2.
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can I just shoot things? I mean isn't that what this game is about?
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-- The Hammerhead > The Mako.
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meh stabbing myself in the eye with a rusty fork > Mako doesn't make Hammerhead good
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*puts on hardhat and takes cover* that's it for me. Gooooo!!!!!
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your cover will fail eventually puny mortal :devil:

Modifié par Rockworm503, 29 juin 2011 - 02:32 .

[sevach]

Kal'Reegar>>>>Tali
Garrus was ok in ME1 but ridiculous in ME2, and another thing the dude sucks at calibrating.
The Krogan had it coming...
The Geth are just defective machines and not alive.
It's quite a coincidence that conflicts that started centuries (Quarian- Geth) or a Milennia ago (genophage) are coming to a head right  when the Reapers are invading the galaxy.

Modifié par sevach, 29 juin 2011 - 02:46 .

[Rockworm503]

Seboist wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mass Effect would be better without Sheploo. A lot of redundancy could be eliminated, allowing for deeper growth of certain characters without pidgeonholing any of them.

Fixed.

Honestly whats up with this?  If you don't like Femshep don't use her its that F-ing simple!!
Gosh all these optional things and people act like its forced on them

[Rockworm503]

Brand New wrote...

Most people hate Kaiden/Ashley for being xenophobes, but just about all the characters you meet in game are. Hate them

I hate them cause their boring and Horizon.

[DoNotIngest]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mass Effect would be better without Sheploo. A lot of redundancy could be eliminated, allowing for deeper growth of certain characters without pidgeonholing any of them.

Fixed.

Honestly whats up with this?  If you don't like Femshep don't use her its that F-ing simple!!
Gosh all these optional things and people act like its forced on them

Sheploo is default male Shep, not female Shep...




Female Shep gets 0 hate.

[Rockworm503]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mass Effect would be better without Sheploo. A lot of redundancy could be eliminated, allowing for deeper growth of certain characters without pidgeonholing any of them.

Fixed.

Honestly whats up with this?  If you don't like Femshep don't use her its that F-ing simple!!
Gosh all these optional things and people act like its forced on them

Sheploo is default male Shep, not female Shep...




Female Shep gets 0 hate.

whats your point?

[Homey C-Dawg]

-Jack is the most powerful biotic.
-Engineer class is fun.
-Harbinger's commentaries were threatening.
-Grunt is better than Wrex.
-Mordin can't sing.
-Batarians are attractive.

[DoNotIngest]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

-Engineer class is fun.

But I thought Engineer was canon?



*brofist*

[Labrev]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

-Jack is the most powerful biotic.
-Engineer class is fun.
-Harbinger's commentaries were threatening.
-Grunt is better than Wrex.
-Mordin can't sing.
-Batarians are attractive.

Dominate-Engineer class was the most fun I ever played on ME. It fittingly was the build for my "Troll" Shepard.

[gunswordfist]

-FemShep fanboyism. That whining about Jacob annoyed me to no end. Miranda is better than a create a character, stop whining. And that creepy robot like Kelly that does demeaning tasks like dance for you and feed you God damn fish doesn't make her better than Jacob and Jacob is my least favorite squad member which shows how much Kelly sucks. Creepy lady.

-Wanting both heavy action scenes and actionless scenes where you investigate even more than Samara and Thane's loyalty missions. I am guessing there's no middle ground on this. I want a mission where the Normandy blasts a giant hole into a moon, fly through it and then Shep and crew jump off and blast through an underground filled with Husk aliens.

-Here's a good one. START AT LEVEL 1. This isn't World of Warcraft. Bioware refines the level up system so much in each game that it should be started at from scratch and we don't need level 30 Vanguards ruining the game's balance.

-More than one new character and replacement characters. I want that. There should be at least 4 new ones. See, not even asking for much. I want dead characters from ME2 to be replaced by a character that's the same alien race as whoever is dead. I would like them to at least change their lines though. I wouldn't want them to do the exact same thing as the characters they replace though.

-I want Mass Effect to be dead forever after 3. I will not support post 3 games. I can't help but think we'll be left with either an unfinished conflict or some really cheesy new villains after ME3. Not interested.
-Praetorians. Love em

-Saren sucks. What a whiner. Harbinger>Saren. Mortal Kombat lines or not, at least Harbinger doesn't cry "But but I am not indoctrinated, I am working to help the Reapers kill us all so they won't kill us all!" Shut the **** up.

-Liara is only popular because she was in two Mass Effects. Blue Barrymore's personality is nonexistent and she is the most inconsistent ever. Fans latch on to characters who make repeat appearances in series they love for no good reason all the time.

[gunswordfist]

CheeseEnchilada, you rock. Not saying that's an unpopular opinion, just agree about the Jacob/FemShep romance

[gunswordfist]

I am serious. I am pretty good at having unpopular opinions

[Homey C-Dawg]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Dominate-Engineer class was the most fun I ever played on ME. It fittingly was the build for my "Troll" Shepard.

I agree. Engineer + dominate is a blast to play, and about the easiest way to blow through insanity without dying. Doesn't seem to be a popular class though. I hope they don't soldier-fy the class in ME3.

I especially like playing engineer with Tali and legion as squadmates. Between dominate, ourselves, and the drones, you can have up to 7 people on your team at any given time. 9 against geth/mechs since all three of you have AI-hack.

[Dangerfoot]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mass Effect would be better without femshep. A lot of redundancy could be eliminated, allowing for deeper growth of certain characters without pidgeonholing any of them.

If Mass Effect hadn't had femshep, I would have never gotten into it. I'm so incredibly tired of the majority of games being male only. Bulky, white, stubble, short hair, no personality whatsoever, he's just the chosen hero or the brooding antihero. It's incredible how much more interesting and nuanced femshep is than default derpshep.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

No characters should go into combat in high heels and/or inappropriate protection from hostile environments with skimpy outfits or nonsensical costumes that would neither protect them from gunfire or hostile exposures. Give teammates practical armor when on a mission!