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[grinder1254875]

Loading times are unbearable after playing for a couple hours.Would love to get some DLC  but you would have to be a Moron to purchase it in the raw state this game is in.

Modifié par grinder1254875, 20 novembre 2009 - 06:58 .

[Chlamydion]

Hope you're wearing your asbestos underwear, grinder. This has been a flame-attractor for a while, with at least one wannabe computer wonk proclaiming that it can't be a memory leak (because it doesn't affect everyone), others claiming it has to be a leak because it acts like one, and others just flaming everyone because someone has dared to hint that DA:O might not be perfect.



But lots of folks experience your issue, and I've got to say it acts like every other memory leak I've ever encountered. Just because someone doesn't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't happen; it just means that not every rig handles the code in the same way.

[Matthew Young CT]

Have zero issues and I keep DA open all day (yay for programs that can actually alt-tab properly!).



What is DA's memory usage when your load times are bad, grinder?

[grinder1254875]

I have one of the best gaming pc's on the planet and have monitored the memory usage while playing.It definately is a memory leak.

[Jab0r]

System specs and driver versions?

Keep in mind that it's possible the leak is in library code that DA calls, rather than in the game itself (and the fact that some people don't have problems suggests it). Consider installing the latest version of the VC++ runtimes and such.

[grinder1254875]

Windows 7 64 bit

EVGA classified

i7 975

6 gigs ddr3 2000

EVGA gtx295 quad sli

Custom watercooling on board ,cpu,cards

160 gig intel ssd

hplp3065 monitor 2560x1600

I have all c+

I have no performance problems in any other games or applications..

my memory starts off with over 4 gigs available then dwindles down to nothing depending on how many areas I travel to.

Driver versions make no diffrence.My FPS never slows, its just the increasingly looooong load times.

[ZootCadillac]

grinder1254875 wrote...

I have one of the best gaming pc's on the planet and have monitored the memory usage while playing.It definately is a memory leak.

It's a memory leak because you think you have a good PC and by that definition the answer is memory leak? No you would not be so flippant as to suggest that.
Can I see your debugger results please seeing as you are so confident of a memory leak? I expect you have at the very least run the game code through rational purify or bounds checker? No actually I bet you are an expert running ccmalloc and insure++?

There are probably less than 10 people posting on this forum that even understand what a memory leak is, let alone why it occurs.

Nobody is denying that there is, in some cases, a slow load time after long term game time and nobody is denying that it could be reource allocation related. But sweeping and definitive statements besed upon a distinct lack of knowledge just spreads more rumours for more etards to repeat ad nauseum.

So show us your debug reports or keep the language to 'I have a problem' and don't guess what it can be because you've been on google.

[grinder1254875]

ZootCadillac wrote...

grinder1254875 wrote...

I have one of the best gaming pc's on the planet and have monitored the memory usage while playing.It definately is a memory leak.

It's a memory leak because you think you have a good PC and by that definition the answer is memory leak? No you would not be so flippant as to suggest that.
Can I see your debugger results please seeing as you are so confident of a memory leak? I expect you have at the very least run the game code through rational purify or bounds checker? No actually I bet you are an expert running ccmalloc and insure++?

There are probably less than 10 people posting on this forum that even understand what a memory leak is, let alone why it occurs.

Nobody is denying that there is, in some cases, a slow load time after long term game time and nobody is denying that it could be reource allocation related. But sweeping and definitive statements besed upon a distinct lack of knowledge just spreads more rumours for more etards to repeat ad nauseum.

So show us your debug reports or keep the language to 'I have a problem' and don't guess what it can be because you've been on google.

I dont need to prove anything and will not get into an argument.All I asked if anybody knew when the next patch was coming to address this obvious memory leak.If you don,t know don,t respond.I will not argue with children on these forums

[Sarevok Anchev]

ZootCadillac wrote...

grinder1254875 wrote...

I have one of the best gaming pc's on the planet and have monitored the memory usage while playing.It definately is a memory leak.

It's a memory leak because you think you have a good PC and by that definition the answer is memory leak? No you would not be so flippant as to suggest that.
Can I see your debugger results please seeing as you are so confident of a memory leak? I expect you have at the very least run the game code through rational purify or bounds checker? No actually I bet you are an expert running ccmalloc and insure++?

There are probably less than 10 people posting on this forum that even understand what a memory leak is, let alone why it occurs.

Nobody is denying that there is, in some cases, a slow load time after long term game time and nobody is denying that it could be reource allocation related. But sweeping and definitive statements besed upon a distinct lack of knowledge just spreads more rumours for more etards to repeat ad nauseum.

So show us your debug reports or keep the language to 'I have a problem' and don't guess what it can be because you've been on google.

Maybe you should read more carefully? ALL othergames are working fine!

I also have this ocurrence. And it seems to be nothing comparable with the PC-setup, as this is "only" a problem with the loading after some hours of gameplay; no probs with Framerate or graphical probs.

[mikes0rs]

i like how instead of giving us a patch they give us dlc... wonderful. how low bioware has sunk to put that as a priority rather than fixing their game's errors.



not to mention support, wow. go ea! i emailed them a week ago and even updating the question asking for a reply a day ago still has gotten me nothing.

[ZootCadillac]

grinder1254875 wrote...




I dont need to prove anything and will not get into an argument.All I asked if anybody knew when the next patch was coming to address this obvious memory leak.If you don,t know don,t respond.I will not argue with children on these forums

If you took the time to read the previous responses rather than just push them further into the archive with repeating the same old thing then you'd know that Bioware are unable and unwilling to give a timescale for any patches.

As for being called a child for asking you to keep your comments factual then it kind of smacks of irony would you not say? Especially with me being in my 40's.
If you know it's a memory leak then show why otherwise don't make claims that you can't possibly know to be true.
I too have long load times after about 6 hours run time. as long as 3-4 minutes in some transitions. I never have noted at that point that I have more than 75% of my available 8GB system ram in use and the DA process has yet to use over 2GB in my system with over 108 hours play logged.

So to me that says
"I have no idea what it is so I won't make a fool of myself in public by claiming I do"

Don't argue with me, I don't expect you to or to be able to, but don't insult me just because you don't like a bit of common sense and logic.

Modifié par ZootCadillac, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:09 .

[ZootCadillac]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...


Maybe you should read more carefully? ALL othergames are working fine!

I also have this ocurrence. And it seems to be nothing comparable with the PC-setup, as this is "only" a problem with the loading after some hours of gameplay; no probs with Framerate or graphical probs.

Maybe you should read more carefully? I'm not disputing the problem. I'm asking armchair experts to not make claims they have neither the education nor the tools to back up.

It's hardly unfair to ask people in these forums, which are designed for gameplayers to help each other with technical support, to keep to the facts and stop throwing terms like 'memory leak' about as if they have a clue what they are talking about.

Modifié par ZootCadillac, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:07 .

[Mark5477]

Whatever the issue is, I have it too so it would be nice if a patch were released. The problem is the excessive load times make the game unbearable to play. I have actually shelved the game for that reason because I just hate having to restart the game every hour.

[Rubbish Hero]

This is putting me off progressing, the game uses loading screens alot, it becomes nearly intolerable.

[sirrealist8]

ZootCadillac wrote...

Maybe you should read more carefully? I'm not disputing the problem. I'm asking armchair experts to not make claims they have neither the education nor the tools to back up.

It's hardly unfair to ask people in these forums, which are designed for gameplayers to help each other with technical support, to keep to the facts and stop throwing terms like 'memory leak' about as if they have a clue what they are talking about.

Agree with all your posts in this thread.

mikes0rs wrote...

i like how instead of giving us a patch
they give us dlc... wonderful. how low bioware has sunk to put that as
a priority rather than fixing their game's errors.

not to
mention support, wow. go ea! i emailed them a week ago and even
updating the question asking for a reply a day ago still has gotten me
nothing.

DLC and patch teams are different... you cannot compare the two like this.

[Bara Rockfall]

And they complained about the elevators in Mass Effect?!?

I'm also having long loading times. Up to 10 minutes after playing for 5 to 6 hours. I may be suffering from both this loading time problem and the AMD TLB problem. For now I'll have to just shut down the game and reopen it ever 2 hours or so. I hope they do fix it and that you all stop throwing your egos around. Relax it's only a game after all.

Modifié par Bara Rockfall, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .

[Apex Sammoth]

ZootCadillac wrote...

Sarevok Anchev wrote...


Maybe you should read more carefully? ALL othergames are working fine!

I also have this ocurrence. And it seems to be nothing comparable with the PC-setup, as this is "only" a problem with the loading after some hours of gameplay; no probs with Framerate or graphical probs.

Maybe you should read more carefully? I'm not disputing the problem. I'm asking armchair experts to not make claims they have neither the education nor the tools to back up.

It's hardly unfair to ask people in these forums, which are designed for gameplayers to help each other with technical support, to keep to the facts and stop throwing terms like 'memory leak' about as if they have a clue what they are talking about.

Seriously what is your Problem ? The Guy is just asking when there will be a fix for the Memory Leak. "Yes" There is one in this game and has been addressed by Bioware but, it is not totally fixed. The Memory Leak has been discussed on this forum more then enough. Part of the problem is we are seeing DLC being developed but, not a patch to fix this issue and many others. He does have a good gamming Rig like most of us. The Fact that your trying to discredit him for saying it is a Memory link is just outright Trolling. You would think being in your 40's you would be grown up enough to know this. Or where you just saying your age to prove your Wiser then him.

And as for his proof this was more then enough

""""""I have no performance problems in any other games or applications.. """"""""

Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 20 novembre 2009 - 09:23 .

[Sarevok Anchev]

Full Stop

[lokiju]

sirrealist8 wrote...

DLC and patch teams are different... you cannot compare the two like this.

If the DLC team could add support to the patch team, then yes, there is a connection. Full support of this very buggy game should supersede DLC content. It's obvious the patch crew needs more help. Heck, I'd rather have the DLC crew help with EA support for the time being. I am going on 11 days with no response from support. I added my DxDiag and a well articulated call for help.

Modifié par lokiju, 20 novembre 2009 - 09:37 .

[sirrealist8]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Seriously what is your
Problem ? The Guy is just asking when there will be a fix for the
Memory Leak. "Yes" There is one in this game and has been addressed by
Bioware but, it is not totally fixed. The Memory Leak has been
discussed on this forum more then enough. Part of the problem is we are
seeing DLC being developed but, not a patch to fix this issue and many
others. He does have a good gamming Rig like most of us. The Fact that
your trying to discredit him for saying it is a Memory link is just
outright Trolling. You would think being in your 40's you would be
grown up enough to know this. Or where you just saying your age to
prove your Wiser then him.

His problem is that the guy came on a technical support forum asking for word on a patch for a memory leak. He does not know what a memory leak actually is, and neither do you. If you want help with something, you should use terms you are familiar with. It helps keep things clear. Ask any of your "computer friends" what it is like when they try to help someone who says they have problem (a), when in fact they have no idea what problem (a) is, and it leads them down the wrong route because all along they had problem (.

Apex Sammoth wrote...

And as for his proof this was more then enough

""""""I have no performance problems in any other games or applications.. """"""""

This is not "proof" of anything. In fact, this doesn't mean all that much. When troubleshooting a problem, its usful to know what other problems one might have because the more you know the better. Just because he doesn't have "any performance issues" with any other apps/games does NOT mean that the problem is with the game code. This is a flawed assumption, based on a flawed inference.

lokiju wrote...

sirrealist8 wrote...

DLC and patch teams are different... you cannot compare the two like this.

If the DLC team could add support to the patch team, then yes, there is a connection. Full support of this very buggy game should supersede DLC content. It's obvious the patch crew needs more help. Heck, I'd rather have the DLC crew help with EA support for the time being. I am going on 11 days with no response from support. I added my DxDiag and a well articulated call for help.

I'm not saying that maybe  patch is needed, but you must also keep in mind that just because someone is on a DLC team does not mean they can just be moved to another aspect of game development/support... programmers and teams do not work like that.

Modifié par sirrealist8, 20 novembre 2009 - 10:00 .

[ZootCadillac]

Apex Sammoth wrote...


Seriously what is your Problem ? The Guy is just asking when there will be a fix for the Memory Leak. "Yes" There is one in this game and has been addressed by Bioware but, it is not totally fixed. The Memory Leak has been discussed on this forum more then enough. Part of the problem is we are seeing DLC being developed but, not a patch to fix this issue and many others. He does have a good gamming Rig like most of us. The Fact that your trying to discredit him for saying it is a Memory link is just outright Trolling. You would think being in your 40's you would be grown up enough to know this. Or where you just saying your age to prove your Wiser then him.

And as for his proof this was more then enough

""""""I have no performance problems in any other games or applications.. """"""""

I don't recall Bioware coding devs admitting and 'addressing' a memory leak ever on this forum.

DLC is developed by a team other than those that will be tasked to patch the game and will be on a pre-determined development roadmap.

I'm asking people on this forum not to spout bull**** because it gets repeated and people who don't know better start to quote it as fact.

Chris Priestly has already said, which can be confirmed by a little more searching and a little less arguing, that Bioware can not give proposed dates for patch releases if there are any and would be unwilling to do so even if they had dates ( this is standard practise to avoid making promises to avaricious gamers who'd never let it lie if a patch was rolled out later than advertised )

I mentioned my age because he was under some misaprehension that I was a child. It had nothing to do with letting him know I am wiser than him. That is patently obvious and needed no clarification.

If you can't comprehend the wish of forum regulars to keep a user tech forum free of speculation and on track with facts then by all means, call me names and score some epeen. Frankly it will not get you the response I think you'd prefer.

I seriously want people not to make claims they can't back up so that those who are genuinely looking for answers are not led astray by speculation. That's how forums become useful rather than the playground of idiots.

Modifié par ZootCadillac, 20 novembre 2009 - 10:04 .

[dep_prome]

The game isnt very well optimised, some very large area's give me 50fps+ while some that barely show anything and have a few active corpses laying about nuke my fps to a slideshow.

The loading times get worse later on, especially around the deep roads and orzammar.



Tis either a memory leak or very poor optimisation.

[mockingcrow]

Zoot, you REALLY are just being a ******* troll... STHU and move on.

If the common person were talking to a zoologist and said they saw a crocodile in california, when in fact it was an alligator... Do you REALLY think the zoologist is going to split hairs about what it was, versus FINDING/FIXING it. If you say yes, youre a putz, hope you know that.

Yes, it helps to know information about what youre trying to find. So far, the only thing the person did wrong was a misdiagnosis of the problem, being the croc instead of the gator. However, people are still giving the CRUCIAL info needed such as their hardware, WHEN its occuring etc. If you tell the zoologist where you saw the creature and what it looked like, guess what... hell eventually FIND it and what it is.

GTFO of your house, go to school and learn to be civilized. It doesnt matter when your birthday was, you are in FACT(AND THIS IS A FACT) a GD 7yr old kid mentally . You treat people like an arrogant ass****, then youll be treated like one. No one here wants YOUR opinion except for the other arrogant ass****. Want a lollipop?

Youre arguing for the sake of argument, plain and simple, and the FACT is... there is some problem with resource managment by the game, probably just involving certain hardware interaction. My games memory usage goes up from 500k to well over a million once i hit 5 min load times. Guess what, thats a memory problem, holy crap. STOP THE PRESSES!

People are having the problem, and you are trying to troll the forums in what looks like some way to downplay this issue. **** OFF!


PS. This is the ONLY game i have a problem with, so yes, it is on the DEVELOPERS hands and maybe they should devote more personel to finding this problem. Check this all twice zoots, dont want you to scrape your knee and scream bloody murder.

[mockingcrow]

Oh yeah, and i was originally directed to these forums the day after the game came out from gamefaqs linking to a post on THIS forum. The post contained a bioware rep saying they were investigating the memory issue. So yes, a bioware rep did acknowledge it as a memory problem.



Also, I used california as that is where i live now and a croc/gator would be something REALLY out of place here which is what i would call a problem, let alone dangerous...

[ZootCadillac]

haha, ****ing hell. pull your neck in **********.