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[Jenna WSI]

My graphics card is an onboard model. Running Windows 7.

http://www.asus.com/...s/M2N68AM_PLUS/

[Jenna WSI]

Tried this with all my settings down low for nwn graphics. Tried this with compatibility mode for xp, and tried it with running in 255 colors. Crash happens about 3/10ths into loading the first area.

[Lord Sullivan]

The be blunt, you're not going to get far with the onboard "Nvidia 630" chipset graphics

I strongly suggest you get either a "ZOTAC Nvidia 9800GT" (No PCIe Power connector needed) if
your budget permits it or a "ZOTAC Nvidia 9500GT" if on a tight budget.

That will definitly help with your issues.

My appologies if I can't come up with a better solution.

[Pstemarie]

Jenna, your issue probably has nothing to do with your GPU. AMD boards do not get along with Win 7 SP1. I was running NWN fine on my old PC then I upgraded to Win 7 SP1. Slowly over the course of a month the computer degenerated to the point where the HDD and RAM was damaged beyond repair. I had to buy a new system.

On the advice of a friend, I replaced the HDD and RAM and installed WIN XP on the old system. It works again.

AMD is junk. ASUS is junk. I was running a Phenom II X4 on a M478T-E Asus Board with an AMD GPU - all of which was "specially engineered to run under Win 7." What a load of crap. Search the web, cross-referencing AMD with Win 7 SP1. You will find thousands of people posting threads and blogs about how their ASUS/AMD pc is now junk after upgrading to Win 7 SP1.

I'd say Win 7 SP1 is junk, BUT my new Intel PC with nVidia GPU runs beautiful, as do my other 3 desktops and laptop - all intel with nVidia GPUs.

My advice, take that AMD-based piece of junk back whereever you bought it and get an intel-based board with an nVidia GPU. You also don't need a fancy video card to run NWN, it was designed to run on a 128 MB card - any modern onboard GPU is at least 256 MB and most are 512 MB.

[Jenna WSI]

I don't think I can return it.

I knda figured I might have to add a specific vid card... is there a more comprehensive list of cards that work with nwn?

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 29 juin 2011 - 02:01 .

[Gorath Alpha]

You may safely ignore the Intel Fanboy's ravings against the better company's products. The readme file in the game did list those video cards that worked back in 2002 when the game was brand new, but very few cards that old are still anywhere you can find them, other than eBay.

ATI hitched its wagon to Direct3D early on, and allowed OpenGL functions to get shortchanged because of the lack of games requiring OpenGL cards. NWN1, however, is old enough that the future of the two (Direct3D versus OpenGL) wasn't yet clear.

The game wants more Open GL than Radeons maintained after their X1n00 generation six years ago, and more than nVIDIA maintained after three years ago. You can still find relatively old Geforces such as 9800 GTs to purchase new, but just don't use recent drivers with that age card, at least not for NWN1.

[Jenna WSI]

Er... so none of the cards at say, best buy or comp usa will work, either? Something that needs to be specifically ordered online? I have no patience, I admint.

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 29 juin 2011 - 03:39 .

[HipMaestro]

Gorath Alpha wrote...
The game wants more Open GL than Radeons maintained after their X1n00 generation six years ago, and more than nVIDIA maintained after three years ago. You can still find relatively old Geforces such as 9800 GTs to purchase new, but just don't use recent drivers with that age card, at least not for NWN1.

Thanks for declaring this in Jenna's thread, Gorath.  I copy few to PnP but this is one.

This has been a serious concern of mine as my fully-compatible-but-ancient Radeon card won't last much longer and determining the subsitute will be an adventure.  Maybe it would be prudent if I bought a compatible one (like the 9800 GTS) now before I get stuck in OpenGL purgatory. 

There used to be detailed discussions of various older cards good to use with NWN one time *ahem*, so those neurotic NWNers, like me, who do not like having the rug pulled out under, will be collecting these sorts of opinions/references.

[Calvinthesneak]

I dunno about buying old cards. Most people pretty successfully run newer cards with nwn these days, though it certainly takes some playing around. As for the win 7/asus debate I can't comment, I hadn't heard that one before, I run a nVidia motherboard and card.

I don't know what's available quickly, but usually tiger direct or newegg can get something to you within days. Currently there are fixes even for the newest Nvidia cards, which do not always work. The ATI series HD cards seem to work as well depending on driver, and ATI catalyst tweaks. (Usually adjusting catalyst AI and advanced AA settings).

If you have questions on a specific piece of hardware post away and hopefully someone can advise you.

[Pstemarie]

You can run NWN on newer cards. I use an nVidia GT 240 with 1 GB RAM. I've run it on 8500 GTs, 8600 GTs, and several other cards - I upgrade PCs just about every year. I have the latest drivers installed.

Modifié par Pstemarie, 29 juin 2011 - 04:22 .

[Jenna WSI]

Well my laptop had no issue running it at all, on win 7... and it's about a year old. I don't recall the board/vid card though and it's in need of a windows reinstall. All my computers broke in the same ten day period. FML.

[IronRook]

I think its in your settings somewhere
I have a HP s3620f
Nividia 7100 graphics card ,I dont physically see the card when I open it up.???
I also have the Nividia 630i chipset
Vista Home Premium ..some one messed with my PC and the game was jumpy ..after I set it back to default it worked . My experience anyways.

EDIT: my graphics are onboard 

Modifié par IronRook, 29 juin 2011 - 07:05 .

[lorrsatan]

Every link I go to to get the patch to play it on vista all take me to the same bioware page again and again.

[IronRook]

Not the place for your question but here is direct download http://files.bioware...9HotUUpdate.exe

Modifié par IronRook, 29 juin 2011 - 07:03 .

[lorrsatan]

Thank you

[lorrsatan]

Does it need moved at all?

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

The game wants more of Open GL than Radeons maintained after their X1n00 generation six years ago, and more than nVIDIA maintained after three years ago. You can still find relatively old Geforces such as 9800 GTs, and GTS 250s to purchase new, but just don't use recent drivers with that age card, at least not for NWN1.

Pstemarie wrote...

You can run NWN on newer cards. I use an nVidia GT 240 with 1 GB RAM. I've run it on 8500 GTs, 8600 GTs, and several other cards - I upgrade PCs just about every year. I have the latest drivers installed.

I have to disagree that any of those named are "newer", since the Geforce 8n00s are five years old, and the GT 240 is three years old (about as "new" as my information suggests is an easy card to adapt to such an old game).  I specifically wrote "three years" when thinking about being able to play the game right out of the box. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 30 juin 2011 - 12:44 .

[Pstemarie]

Gorath Alpha wrote...
I have to disagree that any of those named are "newer", since the Geforce 8n00s are five years old, and the GT 240 is three years old (about as "new" as my information suggests is an easy card to adapt to such an old game).

Newer from what's in the ReadMe you cited. Last time I checked 2006 and 2008 came AFTER 2002 chronologically.

Pardon me for not being explicit enough.

Modifié par Pstemarie, 29 juin 2011 - 10:00 .

[Calvinthesneak]

People are running 400 and 400 series nVidia cards with the openGL hack that is noted here in the technical forums. Is it perfect, no, is it playable yes. And makes other games work as well.

[Lord Sullivan]

@Jenna, you can purchase any 9000 series or 200 series anywhere you want as long as you can find them available.

i.e. a quick search revealed Comp USA has a 9500GT for $67.99
and also a ZOTAC  9800GT for $64.99 with a mail-in rebate of $25.00 final price $39.99

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 29 juin 2011 - 10:43 .

[Jenna WSI]

Thanks guys, I'm going to try installing my old card first from the box this one is replacing.

[Lord Sullivan]

Well if the old Video Card is a PCI-Express card, you shouldn't have a problem at all.

[Jenna WSI]

I think computers have me as favored enemy, ahah. So the new motherboard/on board graphics is making weird flickering lines across the screen, and if I install the old graphics card the whole system won't even turn on. I certainly have a way with electronics. Since it's two days old I'm just going to dump it on the repair team.

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 30 juin 2011 - 04:27 .

[Khuzadrepa]

I actually built a computer right before Christmas time with that exact motherboard, with Win7, and it's been working splendidly.
Contrary to a post made above, AMD and Asus are top-notch hardware vendors. I've been using both for years and had little trouble with either.

Was this a computer someone built for you?

Do you know what power supply unit (PSU) you have in it?

Did you change the video settings in the BIOS before installing the add-in video card? 

Modifié par Khuzadrepa, 30 juin 2011 - 04:37 .

[Jenna WSI]

It was a custom build by comp usa. They have to fix it for a year so... back it goes. I'm reinstalling everything on the laptop with a new windows install, so I just don't have time to fuss over the desktop myself. I actually did a bit of reading on Asus and it was fairly well recommended. My laptop worked fine for a year and randomly windows decided it would never boot again. I blame bill gates, not Asus.

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 30 juin 2011 - 08:25 .