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Squadmates indoctrinated, could you kill them ?


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#26
robtheguru

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I'd put a bullet between the eyes of everyone and anyone indoctrinated. Death would be better for them in my eyes.

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robtheguru wrote...

I'd put a bullet between the eyes of everyone and anyone indoctrinated. Death would be better for them in my eyes.


It would be a mercy, to be sure.

I'm sure Shepard would want his squad mates to do the same for him if he ever fell to indoctrination. "Kill me before I can do any damage."

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If it's an isolated case wherein I can have them knocked out safely and put aside, I'd risk it. Otherwise, I'll pull the trigger myself. They are my team and I owe them that much. I would hope that they'd do the same for me. This actually goes double for my LI, which is Thane, who believes so strongly in self-determination.

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Save squadmate costing a third part of fleet or finish him? I only hope in this case Shepard would kill Kaidan and Miranda offscreen.
Honestly, I won't trade even entire squad fate for 1/3 of fleet. First, it very likely would be a great help to Reapers, leading to destruction of life in entire galaxy, and second, what makes people close to Shepard better than people which would be sacrificed? What about their friends and families?

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What if any one of your surviving squadmates/prior squadmates could be indoctrinated, determined at random each time you start/import a new game? Would add a LOT of tension to each playthrough, especially if it wasn't revealed untill you were halfway through..

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tobynator89 wrote...

What if any one of your surviving squadmates/prior squadmates could be indoctrinated, determined at random each time you start/import a new game? Would add a LOT of tension to each playthrough, especially if it wasn't revealed untill you were halfway through..


And on your second playthrough it randomly happens that you'll get the same person as you had on your first playthrough. No profit.

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tobynator89 wrote...

What if any one of your surviving squadmates/prior squadmates could be indoctrinated, determined at random each time you start/import a new game? Would add a LOT of tension to each playthrough, especially if it wasn't revealed untill you were halfway through..


Taking such a decision out of the players hand will result in massive nerdrage when someones favourite LI get it.

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nhsk wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

What if any one of your surviving squadmates/prior squadmates could be indoctrinated, determined at random each time you start/import a new game? Would add a LOT of tension to each playthrough, especially if it wasn't revealed untill you were halfway through..


Taking such a decision out of the players hand will result in massive nerdrage when someones favourite LI get it.


Well screw the control freaks. Shepard needs to learn that sometimes bad stuff happens regardless.

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Thompson family wrote...

If they're indoctrinated, then whomever they were is already dead.


this, there's no cure for indoctrination (examples being Saren and Benezia), it would be a mercy.

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wildannie wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

If they're indoctrinated, then whomever they were is already dead.


this, there's no cure for indoctrination (examples being Saren and Benezia), it would be a mercy.


There is one known cure, but it was destroyed.

Thorian mind control wiped out the Reaper indoctrination of Shiala. When she was freed from the Thorian, she was normal, beyond the lingering health effects from her experience with the Thorian.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 29 juin 2011 - 05:43 .


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nhsk wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

What if any one of your surviving squadmates/prior squadmates could be indoctrinated, determined at random each time you start/import a new game? Would add a LOT of tension to each playthrough, especially if it wasn't revealed untill you were halfway through..


Taking such a decision out of the players hand will result in massive nerdrage when someones favourite LI get it.


This. That wouldn't be a shocking plot twist. It would be a point where most of the gamers I know would either start over, or find a way to mod. Taking total control out of the player's grasp usually results in rage rather than appreciation of such an emotional moment.

Remember Virmire, which everyone praised? There was no third option, but we still got a choice. And I wouldn't limit it just to the LIs. If Wrex/Grunt/Mordin was indoctrinated randomly, I would not be pleased.

As for indoctrination, it depends on when and where the indoctrination rears its ugly head. In the middle of a mission? Shoot them out of mercy. In Shepard's quarters? Lock them in the bathroom and review every option. Would probably still end with a bullet in the head, though.

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I would try to save them, or at least incarcerate them until a cure could be found. After all, Shiala was Indoctrinated, but the Thorian's influence superseded the Reaper Indoctrination. So, perhaps with some study, they could be helped. As the Indoctrination takes over, they'd become more mindless and helpless anyway, like the zombie-like salarians on Virmire. And Rana Thanoptis' work with Saren might come in handy in studying Indoctrination as well.

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I'm thinking it in terms of i only can actually save 8 of them... idk why, 8 seems good i guess
Miranda- dies
Jacob- dies
Joker- dies
Jack- lives
Chakwas- Lives
Grunt- lives.
Garrus- dies
Zaeed- dies.
Kasumi- Lives
Thane- Lives
Tali- lives.
Liara- lives.
Mordin- dies.
Samara- Lives
Morinth- dies
Virmire Survivor- Lives
Wrex- dies

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As much as I love my squad mates (every single one), I would kill any that became indoctrinated. Our experience with the Reapers shows that the subject will never be the same, even if the source of indoctrination is removed. Well, unless you're exposed to the Thorian (even then we're not 100% certain that Shiala is cured).

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If the Thorian could cure them then there has to be a way to break Reaper indoctrination, in which case i'd do everything in my power to incapacitate until a cure was found.

Also, if their indoctrination is linked to the Reapers, if the Reaper they're indoctrinated to is destroyed there may be a small remote chance of them regaining themselves.

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This kind of thread again? Pah.

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whywhywhywhy wrote...

I imagine with all the reapers flying aroung this will be a real concern so if one of your squad members got indoctrinated and you had the option of killing them, letting them go or trying to find a cure.  But finding a cure comes at a cost you lose a third of your fleet to fight the reapers, Who lives ?


If that's the case then they're all going to die.

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Only person I wouldn't kill would be Liara, other than that, I wouldn't give a **** who I would have to kill, even Wrex.

But if we have to kill them, I want it to be like the Shining.

*Lighting cracks outside the window in Samara's room. The lights shut off and the whole room goes black.*
"Hereeeeeeeees Shephard!"
*Door peeled open with an ax. Samara turns, pistol shot to the chest*
"Oh Dr. Chawkwas, I need a checkup."

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Miranda- lives
Jacob- lives
Joker- dies
Jack- lives
Chakwas- dies
Grunt- lives.
Garrus- lives
Zaeed- dies.
Kasumi- dies
Thane- Lives
Tali- lives.
Liara- lives.
Mordin- dies.
Samara- dies
Morinth- lives
Virmire Survivor- No longer a survivor
Wrex- dies
Kelly- lives

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

Yay! It's another one of these threads about "Who would you kill if given the oppurtunity."



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Ofcourse.

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Han Shot First wrote...

wildannie wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

If they're indoctrinated, then whomever they were is already dead.


this, there's no cure for indoctrination (examples being Saren and Benezia), it would be a mercy.


There is one known cure, but it was destroyed.

Thorian mind control wiped out the Reaper indoctrination of Shiala. When she was freed from the Thorian, she was normal, beyond the lingering health effects from her experience with the Thorian.


I'd forgotten about that :blush:.  In that case I'd try and save them (well if I liked them enough that it is :P)

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whywhywhywhy wrote...

I imagine with all the reapers flying aroung this will be a real concern so if one of your squad members got indoctrinated and you had the option of killing them, letting them go or trying to find a cure.  But finding a cure comes at a cost you lose a third of your fleet to fight the reapers, Who lives ?


Miranda - Dead
Jacob - Dead
Joker - Lives
Jack - Lives
Chakwas - Lives
Grunt - Definatly dies
Garrus - Lives
Zaeed - Dead
Kasumi - Lives
Thane - If cured, lives
Tali - Lives
Liara - Lives
Mordin - Lives
Samara - I think she wouldn't be supportive of a sacrifice on her account, so, dead
Morinth - Dead
VS - Lives
Wrex - Lives

I hope there are some major casualties in 3. If theres a time to off some people as a result of choices made in the two prior games it should happen.

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If you get indoctrinated, you die.
I would feel (extremely) bad about killing  Garrus, the VS (my Shep's LI), Liara and Mordin, but you've got to do what you've got to do.
It's like with people getting bit by zombies, they tell you they're fine and seem ok, but if you let them live they one day start growling and sneak up on you and bite you in the neck when you least expect it. :blink: 
Can't trust anyone who may be indoctrinated. Shepard can't take those kind of risks.

Modifié par Annaka, 29 juin 2011 - 07:19 .


#50
PhantomSpectre

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Could I kill indoctrinated squadmate? Yes, there is more at stake than their lives.
Do I want to do it? No way (especially if BW is going force the issue to us), but you don't always get what you like.

Then again there is always chance to start new game and try to avoid the whole situation. :)