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[lyleoffmyspace]

I read that the Reapers weapons are like molten metals shot superfast?

What happens when the Reapers run out of this metal? They obviously dont have the infrastructure for mining like the Allied races will have?

Can they send Husks out to get more metal for the weapons? Are the Husks intelligent enough to mine?

Or do they just go out and probe the planets for resources like Sheparrd does?

Basically, the Reapers have no supply lines. When Sovereign was the galaxy he had the geth, and didn't really use his weapons enough to need a supply line, but with all the Reapers invaded, how are they going to supply themselves.

[DoNotIngest]

LAZORZ don't need ammo, silly goose. Mass Effect cores FTW!

[Raygereio]

Given that the Reapers don't seem to expect a prolonged war, they probably just asume they can resupply during and after the elimination of all sufficiently advanced species in the galaxy and before they go away to hang out in the void.
As for who does the hard work; probably indoctrinated people. Or perhaps there are husks for non-combat taks like this.

Modifié par Raygereio, 29 juin 2011 - 12:50 .

[Brand New]

Raygereio wrote...

Given that the Reapers don't seem to expect a prolonged war, they probably just asume they can resupply during and after the elimination of all sufficiently advanced species in the galaxy and before they go away to hang out in the void.
As for who does the hard work; probably indoctrinated people. Or perhaps there are husks for non-combat taks like this.

This and they have many milenia according to Vigil to wander the galaxy or use the civilzations. They can make them slaves, use current civilzation stockpiles etc. Mass Effect core are probably a big thing as well. Their technology could be so advanced we don't understand it or perhaps the species melted down is their source?

[lyleoffmyspace]

But the fact is, when they're involved in a war with resistance, they might have trouble resupplying, as usually they just waltz in and have an easy job.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

They are using Accelerated Laser beams. You have probably saw it by yourself during E3. Single Reaper simply owned Alliance Cruiser with 2 shots.

[Lumikki]

Magic of course. Oh sorry, was it science fiction lore here, got confused. Ammos comes from never ending material supply. It doesn't matter how much you take from it, it never ends.

Oh, how to gets stuff, looting corpses of course. That's nice hobby for every soldier. I think there was nice bargain for shopping carts for sale, where you can put all the loot.

Seriously, what does it matter?

Meaning use your own imagination to find some explanation what you think is a reasonable

Modifié par Lumikki, 29 juin 2011 - 01:53 .

[Shad0wOGRE]

They grab onto the nearest asteroid and use their nano machine tech to extract the necessary resources.

Heck they could use a system similar to the SR2 probes for gathering resources.

[Someone With Mass]

Element zero is created when planets are hit by the energy of a supernova, so the Reapers could just be corrupting stars with dark energy and then wait until they explode and then pick up the eezo. And pick up the eezo all the organic civilizations they harvested have gathered.

[Medhia Nox]

They restock ammo with: "Mysterious technology that is beyond your petty ability to understand."

Blah blah blah....

[Purge the heathens]

It turns out that Star Trek really happened in the distant past and ever since then, the Reapers have used replicators.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

They store extra ammunition in hammerspace.

[Raygereio]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...
They are using Accelerated Laser beams.

No they don't. Besides the fact that one doesn't accelerate a laser beam (light has tendency to always travel as fast as possible), the ME universe doesn't use lasers as main weaponry. Just for point defence.

The codex entry for the thanix canon stated that Sov's main gun fired molten metal projectiles at relativistic speed. Basically it´s a regular mass accelerator, but one that can fire constantly and is on massive quantities of steroids.  
I do question why BioWare felt the need to make those metal bits molten and also state they damage through heat transference next to the impact damage. As if a constant stream of metal bits flying at  relativistic speed isn´t going to ruin someone´s day enough. Talk about adding insult to injury.

Modifié par Raygereio, 29 juin 2011 - 02:14 .

[Scorpion1O1]

If I understand the technology
Mass Effect Tech uses Element Zero which links to Dark Energy, Since Dark Energy is everywhere in the universe and accounts for appx. 70% of the universe. they can just pull it out of thin air.

[SalsaDMA]

Lumikki wrote...

Seriously, what does it matter?

Considering the amount of targets they have to blow up if the combined galactic fleet attacks them (including civilian mock targets), it actually might matter how many shots they got in their ammo slots.

[Davie McG]

Some of these reapers are 2 Km long, I'm sure there's enough space on deck for a sh*it load of metal.

The reapers also use Indoctrinated slaves, they could use the slaves to mine for resources after the conflict is over, they'd have all the time in the world to resource gather, then relay jump back to dark space leaving the indoctrinated to die of starvation or exposure.

[SalsaDMA]

Davie McG wrote...

Some of these reapers are 2 Km long, I'm sure there's enough space on deck for a sh*it load of metal.

The reapers also use Indoctrinated slaves, they could use the slaves to mine for resources after the conflict is over, they'd have all the time in the world to resource gather, then relay jump back to dark space leaving the indoctrinated to die of starvation or exposure.

Asuming a normal sensible and logical design, there is no point in making your ammo storages bigger than to supply a 'worst case' scenario. Worst case scenario for the reapers isn't facing off a galactic unified fleet, but merely a fleet from one race. The case they are in right now is beyond 'worst case' scenario for them if the entire galactic fleet decends on them at the same time.

And a key point in your comment is "after the conflict is over", which means that having to start scrounging for ammo during a conflict is more problematic.

Ofc, I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware just ignored the importance of supply routes for warfare, as logistics doesn't make for 'fancy battlescenes'. But one could hope that some of the missions were cutting off resuply operations of the reapers to weaken them in preperation for the "final" battle.

[Davie McG]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

Some of these reapers are 2 Km long, I'm sure there's enough space on deck for a sh*it load of metal.

The reapers also use Indoctrinated slaves, they could use the slaves to mine for resources after the conflict is over, they'd have all the time in the world to resource gather, then relay jump back to dark space leaving the indoctrinated to die of starvation or exposure.

Asuming a normal sensible and logical design, there is no point in making your ammo storages bigger than to supply a 'worst case' scenario. Worst case scenario for the reapers isn't facing off a galactic unified fleet, but merely a fleet from one race. The case they are in right now is beyond 'worst case' scenario for them if the entire galactic fleet decends on them at the same time.

And a key point in your comment is "after the conflict is over", which means that having to start scrounging for ammo during a conflict is more problematic.

Ofc, I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware just ignored the importance of supply routes for warfare, as logistics doesn't make for 'fancy battlescenes'. But one could hope that some of the missions were cutting off resuply operations of the reapers to weaken them in preperation for the "final" battle.

I meant that they'd have a massive stockpile of ammo after using the prothean slaves, so that after each extinction they are suited and booted for the next one.

[SalsaDMA]

Suited and booted for a conflict as they plan for.

ME isn't what they planned, and an cordinated entire galactic fleet at the same time isn't what they planned for either.

Redundancy of mass above expected mission parameters would be silly, as it would impact negatively on their energy reserves for the trip to darkspace, hibernation and trip back.

If you really think they plastered their ships with ammo they didn't expect to use despite the negative energy consequences, you're beyond debate.

[Davie McG]

I understand what your saying, and it's true they are facing the worst possible outcome.

I totally agree that an entire galactic fleet will overwhelm them (Its safe to assume considering the lengths they go to to preserve secrecy), but I highly doubt that during the next game we'll trounce them due to the fact they run out of ammo.

I'm entirely prepared to be wrong in the respect that they carry it all in their hull, I mean there are smaller reaper ships that wouldn't be able to hold much more than some of our warships, but they will have some means of getting resources from either the larger ships or near by planets, a la the SR2.

But do you really think it's beyond them to have surplus supplies?

Modifié par Davie McG, 29 juin 2011 - 06:31 .

[SalsaDMA]

Davie McG wrote...

But do you really think it's beyond them to have surplus supplies?

Enter N7 missions

[Ahglock]

People Slurpees are their energy drink of choice.

[zweistein_J]

some people have no sense of sci-fi...

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I always imagined that their ammo cam from their organic sides. That whatever fuels their ammunition is created inside of the Reaper and is replentished once they run low. Sort of how a flower refills its nector once it runs low.

[PhantomSpectre]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Element zero is created when planets are hit by the energy of a supernova, so the Reapers could just be corrupting stars with dark energy and then wait until they explode and then pick up the eezo. And pick up the eezo all the organic civilizations they harvested have gathered.

That, or Reapers just starts mining minerals like you did in ME2. It would definitely give time for Shep and other forces to prepare.

But seriously to OP's question, I doubt we really need to care how Reapers are restocking ammo or other stuff. I doubt that ME3 is going to run so long that Reapers would have problems with their weaponry and initial resources. That would require long, sort of trench-war, which is not going to happen. Galactic races doesn't have resources or ships for that. So, I think that it's just going to be huge fight at the end, where winner gets all.