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[vanslyke85]

FERMi27 wrote...

I'd call a gamer old if he's >26. And very old if 30+.

I'd be old then and the last game I "geeked out" over was modern warfare 2.  And now I have ME3 and MW3 to look itch over till they come out.  I might also check out SWTOR

[javierabegazo]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

@Whatever666343431431654324 - Depends on how you classify "old gamers" whether by physical age or length of time playing games. For instance I am 26 which isn't old but I have been playing games for over 20 years as I started as soon as I could pick up a controller so I have seen pretty much everything over the years

Indeed. I'm 23, but have fond memories of hundreds of games, many of them from Atari, (mine still works), and have probably spent more money on video games cumulative, than any thing else in my life. I don't think a period of 5 months has passed that I've not played a video game, despite a heavy work schedule and an unhealthy love of Capoeira Angola. I digress.


Anyone know "Blazing Dragons"?

Modifié par javierabegazo, 30 juin 2011 - 01:19 .

[-Skorpious-]

Mass Effect 3 obviously. Kinda strange though, since I remember labeling ME2 "the biggest personal disappointment in gaming" (yes, my words). Not that I completely dislike ME2 like I do DA2, its just that ME2 had so much potential considering how ME ended. 

marshalleck wrote...

I haven't geeked out over a new release in years. I'm interested in some new games coming up, but that interest is limited pretty much to watching videos of and about them only if someone posts a link. I've been gaming for like...a seriously long time, and I just feel like I've seen everything and nothing really new or exciting is happening. It's really incredibly, painfully obvious to me how formulaic the game industry is becoming, and it frustrates me when younger folks can't see it, because things are still new to them. Pretty jaded I guess.

Edit: lol Base Wars. OP and I are on the same page. I used to completely abuse my friends with that game. 

I'm not even that old of a gamer and I completely realize the pathetic state of the industry. In fact, today I walked past electronics (I work at Target) and noticed the contents for the videogame end caps -

360/PS3:
Homefront
CoD Black Ops
Halo: Reach
Halo ODST
Bulletstorm
Duke Nukem Forever
Crysis 2
Madden 20something
NBA 2ksomething
LA Noir (ok, this game was pretty original)  

Wii:
Who cares? 

So yeah, hurray for generic FPS #68! 

PS yes, I am aware that this is not the only problem - its just the most obvious. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 30 juin 2011 - 01:21 .

[Sarevok Synder]

javierabegazo wrote...

For all this talk of how "streamlined" and "mainstream" the game industry has been heading, there's been a great deal of improvement in so many areas.
The amount of people who have video games as entertainment has exponentially exploded, it's like any medium. You have action movies like Batman: Dark Knight and then you have action movies like Michael Bay's "The Island".

Sure it's easy to look back on the "glory days" but the cost of creating video games is astronomical these days, where you have actual cinematic designers, and so many complicated levels of gameplay that involve even longer sessions of Q+A, rather than just a team of 12 people.  Whole soundtracks are made with orchestra arrangements, not just simple midi files. Instead of just a sprite of a face, and a blurb of text, there's entire digital acting scenes, like on Eden Prime, seeing Ashley talk about losing her squad.

As dear to my heart older games are, there are plenty of newer games that simply magnificent in presentation, like the Prologue of The Witcher 2, or Portal 2, or Starcraft 2. (lots of 2's ) 

You just made my point for me. Thanks. Games of the calibre of Wither 2 or Starcraft 2 are few and far between these days. If I want to watch a movie, I’ll fire up the home cinema. I don’t want my games to be movies.

[marshalleck]

javierabegazo wrote...
 That, and Xenogears. (NOT Xenosaga)

That was an awesome game, and one of my favorite JRPGs. 

I'll never forget Id's first appearance. Damn.

And it had an awesome soundtrack, MIDI be damned.

Modifié par marshalleck, 30 juin 2011 - 01:26 .

[Whatever42]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

@Whatever666343431431654324 - Depends on how you classify "old gamers" whether by physical age or length of time playing games. For instance I am 26 which isn't old but I have been playing games for over 20 years as I started as soon as I could pick up a controller so I have seen pretty much everything over the years. I agree with marshalleck that as the gaming industry becomes more mainstream most games are becoming too formulaic.

As for the last game I eagerly awaited; that would be ME1 everything else has been "looks cool add to list"

Fair enough. I was commenting on the age brackets provided earlier. The first computer game I remember was playing a Star Wars text game on Compaq portable computer my father brought home from work. That had to be almost 30 years go. I win. Go pout.  But I agree, the medium is pretty young so an old timer could easily be mid-20s.

As far as formulaic, I agree again. But that's now that games are a business, the big studios need to keep an eye on the bottom line. Experimentation with big budgets is risky. Still, we do see new stuff. LA Noire was innovative. The ME series has innovations. Its enough to keep things interesting for me.

I admit, I don't get pumped about new games anymore. Even ME3 doesn't get me giddy. But that's not a comment on the game. As you get older, you just have so much going on, you can happily wait for a game and not get over anxious.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 30 juin 2011 - 01:24 .

[javierabegazo]

marshalleck wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...
 That, and Xenogears. (NOT Xenosaga)

That was an awesome game, and one of my favorite JRPGs. 

I'll never forget Id's first appearance. Damn.

-sighs- And the first time Id attacks the Yggdrasil! And the Mech battle minigame in Kislev!  I've gotta stop myself

[javierabegazo]

I guess what my point is, that there's always going to a lot of fluffer content, and then the rare gem. There are plenty of well, garbage sci-fi movies for example. And then there are really great ones, (Personal favorite among others is Gattica).

Even during the PC click adventure days, most games were formulaic. There were hundreds of baseball/football games on the Nintendo, that didn't really shine out from each other, same thing today, with yearly releases from Madden. Sports have always had a large crowd, so it was easy for those companies to sell those to the masses. Similar thing with first person shooters. But every now and then, it's ok to expect something marvelous. For me, that something marvelous in the FPS genre is Battlefield 3.

[TexasToast712]

For some reason GoW3 has me really hyped.(tied with ME3) More hyped than I am for my usual favorites. BF3, Assassin's Creed and the new Halos

Modifié par TexasToast712, 30 juin 2011 - 01:32 .

[Rockworm503]

too many to count and I'm as excited to be a gamer as I was 20 years ago.

[AllenShepard]

Before ME3, probably Red Alert 3. Red Alert was a HUGE part of my childhood and I was so stoked for 3. It was pretty good, not nearly as good as RA2 though.

[Pordis Shepard]

Well thank you everyone for making a person really feel old.  

And @slimgrin, who said you could post my picture? ;D

I try not to get too excited about the games...my heart might stop.   But yeah, I'm totally jazzed!

[Paul Sedgmore]

javierabegazo wrote...

For all this talk of how "streamlined" and "mainstream" the game industry has been heading, there's been a great deal of improvement in so many areas.
The amount of people who have video games as entertainment has exponentially exploded, it's like any medium. You have action movies like Batman: Dark Knight and then you have action movies like Michael Bay's "The Island".

Sure it's easy to look back on the "glory days" but the cost of creating video games is astronomical these days, where you have actual cinematic designers, and so many complicated levels of gameplay that involve even longer sessions of Q+A, rather than just a team of 12 people.  Whole soundtracks are made with orchestra arrangements, not just simple midi files. Instead of just a sprite of a face, and a blurb of text, there's entire digital acting scenes, like on Eden Prime, seeing Ashley talk about losing her squad.

As dear to my heart older games are, there are plenty of newer games that simply magnificent in presentation, like the Prologue of The Witcher 2, or Portal 2, or Starcraft 2. (lots of 2's ) 

Having a larger pond will always mean that the level of mediocrity rises, because it's always in proportion. Back during the Nintendo days, there's thousands of titles that are so incredibly forgettable, with few redeeming qualities at all.  



That said, one of the games that I was most excited for was Saga Frontier. That, and Xenogears. (NOT Xenosaga)

I think that games becoming mainstream can only be a good thing for the industry as a whole, that isn't the problem. The problem is that the industry wants every game to be a big budget blockbuster, not every game needs to have hundreds of millions of dollars spent on them to resonate with the target audience. Take the movie industry as an example, they don't give a film like Love Actually the same budget as a film like Lord of the Rings because it doesn't need all of that money spent on it to make the film good for what it is and until the games industry realises this and the publishers change how they prioritise the games they release we will get the same basic ideas with only slight changes as that is what sells in big numbers.

And while I agree that every generation will have mediocre and poor games if they were budgeted properly based on the content and scope of the game the dud games would have less impact on the industry meaning more developers would try something different because they wouldn't take as much of a hit with it.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Grimmace wrote...

Wing Commander III

Wait, how far back are we going? Does that make me old?

Good lord, I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers.

What about Monkey Island & Loom. Now if that's not a nostalgic blast from the past I don't know what is.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 30 juin 2011 - 01:42 .

[Sarevok Synder]

javierabegazo wrote...

I guess what my point is, that there's always going to a lot of fluffer content, and then the rare gem. There are plenty of well, garbage sci-fi movies for example. And then there are really great ones, (Personal favorite among others is Gattica).

Even during the PC click adventure days, most games were formulaic. There were hundreds of baseball/football games on the Nintendo, that didn't really shine out from each other, same thing today, with yearly releases from Madden. Sports have always had a large crowd, so it was easy for those companies to sell those to the masses. Similar thing with first person shooters. But every now and then, it's ok to expect something marvelous. For me, that something marvelous in the FPS genre is Battlefield 3.

On the consoles they were formulaic. Variety was far greater on the PC's (no I've no interest in the whole PC vs Console). For some reason when working on consoles the developers seem to think that there has to be a set formula, rather than innovate. That's the root cause of the stagnation. This isn't the fault of the customers; console users or PC, the fault lies squarely at the feet of the devs. Battlefield looks good in IMHO, why? It has variety, it isn’t just a straight up shooter.

[javierabegazo]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...
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And while I agree that every generation will have mediocre and poor games if they were budgeted properly based on the content and scope of the game the dud games would have less impact on the industry meaning more developers would try something different because they wouldn't take as much of a hit with it.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with everything you just said

[habitat 67]

There have always been disappointing games.
I looked forward to Pitfall II, and look how that turned out.

[MrFob]

Really hyped up to the point I'd discuss it with friends? Hm, Diablo 1 maybe?
I don't have many friends who are still gaming so for me it's usually not a topic of conversations. Got to say I was pretty hyped up on ME1 though. Got it for PC and red revelations before I got the game. At the time, they had a very ood offer for the ME1 art book on amazon so I got that too before the game and loved the art. I frequented the (old) forums a lot then and was lucky enough to win a free copy from the evil Chris (can you imagine). Since that was the first time I ever actually won something in my life I was pretty hyped up at that point, yeah.

[Grimmace]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Grimmace wrote...

Wing Commander III

Wait, how far back are we going? Does that make me old?

Good lord, I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers.

What about Monkey Island & Loom. Now if that's not a nostalgic blast from the past I don't know what is.

I could talk about that text only Trash-80 sequel game in the desert, but I'll stop. 30+ is old? I've outlived Adlib, the first SLI (VooDoo) cards, computers with no HDD (had DUAL 5 1/4 floppies), 40 lbs "portable" computers. I'll game till I die. If the wife and kids don't understand, to bad. There is one benefit to being an "older" gamer, with a job I can afford equipment that will run anything I want. I've always built my own computers. Where as in my 20's I had to scrap money together for that 4800 bps modem. Games come and go and there have been some good ones, but everyone keeps innovating and trying new things when new technology comes out, it's great. I play something old every once in a while, but there is always more good new stuff to play.

But, the ME series has been the best in a while for me. I only play PC, so can't comment on consoles.

Finally I leave with one of the best leaps in gaming. Games that kept there own clock. Used to be games ran by the MHz (not GHz) of the CPU, got a faster machine? Better hope you could turn off the turbo so you could play it at a normal speed. Enough of this though, bring on ME3! Maybe we should start an "old" thread, hang out and tell everyone to stay off our lawns!


Total Annihilation, another great game, but it's been improved and time rolls on. Have I dated myself yet?

Oh yeah HL2: Eposide 3, we'll be old by the time it comes out.

Modifié par Grimmace, 30 juin 2011 - 02:13 .

[Dangerfoot]

I was excited for DA2.

Yeah...

Now I'm excited for Skyrim, Bioshock: Infinite, and to a lesser degree ME3.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

How old do you have to be to play?

I'm 20, so the last game I got hyped up for enough to discuss it openly would have been... ME2.

[Medhia Nox]

I'm 34 and I get excited about everything... it's a product of being terminally happy with life. That... or I'm part dog...

SQUIRREL!

[D.Sharrah]

classic CRPG's...Pool of Radiance and Curse of the Azure Bonds are what cemented my fate as a "gamer"...I will never forget the moment (and look on the face of my father) when I beat Pools of Radiance before he did...more recently, KoToR 2, ME 1, ME 2, Oblivion, Fable, The Force Unleashed, Assassin's Creed (2, 3 as well)...as of right now, Skyrim, ME 3, Assasin's 4.

[Raiil]

Well, I was pretty stoked for Dragon Age 2... I usually don't get uber-excited about new games, but I grew up in arcades, when you never knew what was coming when.

That being said, between Gears of War 3, Skyrim and ME3, things are fairly happening on my end.

[CaribbeanCLANK]

I am 33 years young...and the last game I was really excited about was Gran Turismo 5. I could not wait to get my hands on that game. And when my copy of the game arrived I left work early and rushed home to fire it up. Played ALL night into the early hours of the morning.

I started gaming when I was about 8 years old and have enjoyed seeing how gaming has evolved. Yes, there have been some good changes and some bad changes over the years but video games have not gotten less fun for me over. Here are a few of the games I am looking forward to playing in the near future....

Mass Effect 3
Battlefield 3
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon
The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Sonic Generations
Tomb Raider
Assassin's Creed: Revelation
Hitman: Absolution