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#51
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http://www.telegraph...amer-is-37.html

Apparently the average gamer is actually 37.

I'm geeked about a lot of games at the moment. Gears 3. Modern Warfare 3. Battlefield 3 and of course ME3 can't get here fast enough. Strange how all the games I can't wait to play are a part 3....

EDIT :  Almost forgot Batman Arkham City.  Not a part 3 but still a sequel...

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Can't think of one, sure as heck ain't ME3.

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At 48 I guess I fall in the really old & waiting to die category, lol. DAO excited me and its become one of my favourite games. I was excited about ME2 and DA2 but was let down by both. ME2 pretty much destroyed a lot of my interest in ME to the point where I probably won't bother with ME3 unless massive spoilers convince me otherwise.. I was pretty excited about Witcher 2 but once again didn't enjoy it as much as the first one.

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I'm super stoked for this game. I've played through ME and ME2 religiously and I can't wait to see how bioware wants to reward me. Except I won't be able to play until May because I don't get home from school until then :(

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Gravity Bun wrote...

I remember peeing my pants over Baldur's Gate 2, buying it at a ridiculous price the day it came out and installing it on my pathetic 2.5gb hard drive.
Mass Effect 3 is the first since then that I actually sit up and pay attention the moment a tiny scrap of news appears.

I wasn't even half this excited about the new Fallout, Dead Space, Elder Scrolls and Bioshock games :-S and waited for all of them to hit budget price before I bought them.


hah same with me (exept the peeing of pants for balders gate. that was probobly the half life expansions for me like blue shift) while mass effect three is the only one getting me geeked out a have been slightly anticipant of some games not on Gravity Bun's list like KotOR and the Halo games.

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javierabegazo wrote...

For all this talk of how "streamlined" and "mainstream" the game industry has been heading, there's been a great deal of improvement in so many areas.
The amount of people who have video games as entertainment has exponentially exploded, it's like any medium. You have action movies like Batman: Dark Knight and then you have action movies like Michael Bay's "The Island".

Sure it's easy to look back on the "glory days" but the cost of creating video games is astronomical these days, where you have actual cinematic designers, and so many complicated levels of gameplay that involve even longer sessions of Q+A, rather than just a team of 12 people.  Whole soundtracks are made with orchestra arrangements, not just simple midi files. Instead of just a sprite of a face, and a blurb of text, there's entire digital acting scenes, like on Eden Prime, seeing Ashley talk about losing her squad.


At this point,  I can't resist pointing out that nothing Bioware's done in the last decade comes close to the depth, or level of choice and consequence in Fallout 2,  despite the fact that Fallout 2 can literally be run on a phone today.

That said,  you're right about the costs,  but that just clearly shows that our tools blow,  especially our art tools.  It's very obvious that brute force is required for art in games,  considering you need 2-3x as many artists as you do programmers or designers.

I'll disagree with you on the QA though.  Considering that games have a steadily declining number of features,  QA'ing them is a great deal easier.  Look at Fallout 2's skills and attrubtes,  then look at ME2's,  it'd take a fraction of the time to QA ME2's character portion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/8564342/Average-video-gamer-is-37.html

Apparently the average gamer is actually 37.

I'm geeked about a lot of games at the moment. Gears 3. Modern Warfare 3. Battlefield 3 and of course ME3 can't get here fast enough. Strange how all the games I can't wait to play are a part 3....

EDIT : Almost forgot Batman Arkham City. Not a part 3 but still a sequel...


Yes,  that's a pretty widely held number for the average gamer,  it's on a bunch of surveys.  It's a huge misconception in the industry,  chasing after the teens,  they're actually a minority in gaming.

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Although some of the older games of the mid to late 90's are pretty amazing - I actually think (from a personal viewpoint only of course) that games were their best a few years ago. About the period between 2004 and 2007.

I think they've been on a slight decline since. That said, I - WAS - really excited about DA2.

Maybe thats why its hard to get excited about anything at the moment.

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No no, that's not what I meant Gatt9.

Moving a character in an Isometric shooter is vastly different from moving Shepard in an environment like the Citadel, or on Virmire. There are hundreds of problems that can go wrong, especially when you throw in distinct character models and skeletons.

And that's just on moving, That's not even talking about combat animations, and making sure People don't fall through levels etc.

It's vastly different.

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I want to point out the current "average" age of a gamer is considered to be 32/33 (http://www.eurogamer...s-32-says-study and http://www.gamasutra....php?story=9342).

Anyway last game I was really excited about picking up was Marvel VS Capcom 3. There's always at least 1 release a year that really interests me. If we're talking about a new IP that really got me excited, that was Borderlands.

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Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Fair enough. I was commenting on the age brackets provided earlier. The first computer game I remember was playing a Star Wars text game on Compaq portable computer my father brought home from work. That had to be almost 30 years go. I win. Go pout. :P But I agree, the medium is pretty young so an old timer could easily be mid-20s.


What no mention of Zork! you know the one that says stuff like "it is pitch dark, you are likly to be eaten by a grue."

I will admit I'm not even in my third decade but I'm a bit of a retro gamer. I was raised on the first C&C. BTW has anyone played Marathon? I bet i'll beat you at TOTAL ANNILATION. pong was good but i prefer warlords hmmm wahat other old games can i say i've played? ooh Balders gate one, half life 1, fragging team mates on tfc (hey i was 5!) but realy we need to know what type of game is being refered to! (icewind dale was good.) What system! (sonic was better on the genesis)and stuff like that.

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marshalleck wrote...

I haven't geeked out over a new release in years. I'm interested in some new games coming up, but that interest is limited pretty much to watching videos of and about them only if someone posts a link. I've been gaming for like...a seriously long time, and I just feel like I've seen everything and nothing really new or exciting is happening. It's really incredibly, painfully obvious to me how formulaic the game industry is becoming, and it frustrates me when younger folks can't see it, because things are still new to them. Pretty jaded I guess.

Edit: lol Base Wars. OP and I are on the same page. I used to completely abuse my friends with that game. :D



I agree, it's been awhile since a game genuinely excited me too. But when the bar is set low and that is the accepted height, no one dreams of people jumping higher than that goal. If game devs can just skip over it, why try to go higher?

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knightnblu wrote...

The last time I was this stoked about a game, it was Privateer. Privateer took place in the Wing Commander universe and that game rocked. But I would have to say that Mass Effect 3 has me on tenterhooks. The E3 videos, the press, and comments by BioWare all heighten the desire to play the game.

While disappointing, I am happy that BioWare decided to push back the release date of the game. I expect a lot out of BW and of ME3 and I don't want to be frustrated by a game that is below snuff. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from a previous game that suffered that fate.


Privateer was ****ing AWESOME.  You didn't even have to play the storyline to have a blast.  Make a Privateer game with the Mass Effect License BioWare.

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Hatchetman77 wrote...

knightnblu wrote...

The last time I was this stoked about a game, it was Privateer. Privateer took place in the Wing Commander universe and that game rocked. But I would have to say that Mass Effect 3 has me on tenterhooks. The E3 videos, the press, and comments by BioWare all heighten the desire to play the game.

While disappointing, I am happy that BioWare decided to push back the release date of the game. I expect a lot out of BW and of ME3 and I don't want to be frustrated by a game that is below snuff. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from a previous game that suffered that fate.


Privateer was ****ing AWESOME.  You didn't even have to play the storyline to have a blast.  Make a Privateer game with the Mass Effect License BioWare.


I've been calling for BioWare to do that since one of my very first posts on these forums when they were in Beta!

Also - have rediscoverd Privateer again thanks to the awesomeness that is GOG.com

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The last game to really have me pay attention was Fallout 3. I had never played the original two titles so I was rather intrigued. Since then, nearly every game was rather predictable in what it would contain. To clarify, this is for games I would hear before they are released. Games like Amnesia that I just play on the fly are totally exempt.

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I geeked out for Witcher 2. It was so worth it. Haven't had such a great time playing game like this in a long time.

And Privateer/Mass Effect spin off would be awesome or a sandbox game as a merc.

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One thing that age has done to me is make me massively allergic to grind; my time is just too valuable. I used to love open world games and now I just get so bored by the repetitiveness of them. That's why I have stuck with BioWare and essentially stopped playing Bethesda. Fallout 3 was the last straw for me -- never again.

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I'm in my fifth decade of gaming.  Does that make me old?B)

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Gatt9 wrote...

I'll disagree with you on the QA though.  Considering that games have a steadily declining number of features,  QA'ing them is a great deal easier.  Look at Fallout 2's skills and attrubtes,  then look at ME2's,  it'd take a fraction of the time to QA ME2's character portion.

Comming from a games QA background myself I can tell you that reducing features or simplifing the features does not make testing the game any easier. In fact testing rule sets like Fallout 2's skills and attributes is easier than you may think it is as you have a fixed result and can instantly check those effects using the debug tools amd you have to remember that QA covers everything with a game from how the environment looks and reacts to the implementation of  localisation and everything in between.

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I am 40 and have been playing VG's since Pong. I fondly remember the Arcade days. There are a lot of games today that I eagerly await. Batman Arkham City being one.

However, The Mass Effect Universe has had great influence on me. Much like Star Wars was to my childhood, Mass Effect is to my Gaming life. The wait for ME 3 is tough, but I hope it's worth the wait and no little teddy bear-like creatures start throwing rocks save the Galaxy. ;)

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KreeCapt wrote...

I am 40 and have been playing VG's since Pong. I fondly remember the Arcade days. There are a lot of games today that I eagerly await. Batman Arkham City being one.

However, The Mass Effect Universe has had great influence on me. Much like Star Wars was to my childhood, Mass Effect is to my Gaming life. The wait for ME 3 is tough, but I hope it's worth the wait and no little teddy bear-like creatures start throwing rocks save the Galaxy. ;)

Ah another five decade gamer.  Sweet.  I doubt we get that. :P  I think my husband is getting tired of me talking about Mass Effect though.  He hasn't played it.  I keep telling him he needs to.

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Dragon Age II.
I'm almost embarrassed to say it...

I was so psyched that I almost flunked a class playing it. Two weeks behind screwed me over. And it wasn't even worth it.

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KreeCapt wrote...

I am 40 and have been playing VG's since Pong. I fondly remember the Arcade days. There are a lot of games today that I eagerly await. Batman Arkham City being one.

However, The Mass Effect Universe has had great influence on me. Much like Star Wars was to my childhood, Mass Effect is to my Gaming life. The wait for ME 3 is tough, but I hope it's worth the wait and no little teddy bear-like creatures start throwing rocks save the Galaxy. ;)



I had no problem with the Ewoks in Jedi. They were a fitting part of a story about how nature wins out over man's attempts to overcome it.
 
Jar-Jar Binks on the other hand.

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ladyvader wrote...
I'm in my fifth decade of gaming.  Does that make me old?B)

Definitely not.  It makes you elite!  The first game I played was a Star Trek console game in basic on a PDP-11 in college. :/    My first computer was a TRS-80 with a whopping 8k memory and 32k expansion (yeah kids you read that right---k not m)  ;)

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Pordis Shepard wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
I'm in my fifth decade of gaming.  Does that make me old?B)

Definitely not.  It makes you elite!  The first game I played was a Star Trek console game in basic on a PDP-11 in college. :/    My first computer was a TRS-80 with a whopping 8k memory and 32k expansion (yeah kids you read that right---k not m)  ;)

Thanks.  And the computer you had was top of the line at that time too.  How things have changed.

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Pordis Shepard wrote...

Definitely not.  It makes you elite!  The first game I played was a Star Trek console game in basic on a PDP-11 in college. :/    My first computer was a TRS-80 with a whopping 8k memory and 32k expansion (yeah kids you read that right---k not m)  ;)


Speaking of Elite...I'd really be excited as a little kid for a new version of Elite!


As for what I currently cant wait to play: ME3, X-Rebirth, Skyrim, and Saints Row:The Third