Getorex wrote...
Ahglock wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ugh. So here we have one of those "torture apologists" who likely was A-OK with Bush's (and now Obama's) torture system.
Damn right. People like you really need to wake up and smell the reality.
The reality that real life politics and game boards don't mix is what you meant right?
Buddy, I've had all the 'reality' I need to make my judgements. I'm a vet. I've been to Iraq, have you? Hell, I've been in the military for YEARS and I don't buy into that CRAP. It's cowardly, it's unethical, it's unAmerican, it's against the friggin law (laws WE wrote for hell's sake - Reagan himself signed off on the Conventions Against Torture, Abuse, and Inhumane Treatment). Some people hide under their beds, wet their pants, and scream and cry for mommy to torture the bad brown man (women and children too) so they don't have to look at brown people. I wont have any of that crap. Not in reality, not in games.
Cowards drop their principles and their ethics at the first gunshot. I wont tolerate that sh*t from anyone, superior or subordinate, civilian or miltiary. Makes me wanna puke and beat the sh*t out of them at the same time.
Let us not confuse the human countries' politics with the situation we're facing at Mass Effect universe. Fighting for the survival and advancement of your species is the most ethical thing to do in this universe. You're backed up by the evolution itself, here. No goal is more noble than striving for continuing your genetic legacy, for it took millions of years for the organic life to get us where we are now, and if we're gone, this genetic munation might never happen again, and all the potential will be wasted, lost forever. I know that no humans of our real world ever experienced the situation where their very species has been endangered, but we can use our imagination.
In the end, it comes to this: will our genetic branch survive or be destroyed? Many species have perished into oblivion because they were not strong enough. Several yet are close to extinction. The Council will not fight for the survival of humanity. Several times already they showed that they don't care if humans are destroyed. The Alliance will not fight for the survival of humanity. They betrayed their own kind, abandaning them to their fate at the hands of the Collectors, for the sake of territory and politics. If the humans, too, give up on survival of humanity, then humanity is doomed. The species that doesn't care about its own kind will not survive - nor does it deserve to survive.
We have to fight for the Earth and for humanity's surivival. No price is too high for that. The torture of a few chosen individuals might seem to high, but only if you forget that if we don't find a way to defeat the Reapers, billions will suffer much worse torture at the hands of the Reapers, being liquified into a genetic goo, and no human will survive. The cycle will continue, everyone will be wiped out, and the next organic life will suffer the same fate as we do. Keep the stakes in mind. They're much higher than anything we could've experienced on Earth.
Again, please do not confuse the political goals of the real world with the situation in ME. The survival of our species is not some kind of an artificial territorial agenda invented by the politicians and meant to enrich some while dividing our own species. It's a real threat to all of humanity. And if humanity goes, the rest of the galaxy is going to hell, too.
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