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Jesse Houston wrote...

Naw Shepard is a cyborg.


I believe the correct term is "Zombie" cyborg, geeze.......

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Han Shot First wrote...

One way to remedy that would be to have the Reapers roll out their own indoctrinated and cybnertically altered Shepard clone, that is your main nemesis (like Saren) throughout most of ME3. He'd have all of Shep's badassery and leadership ability because he's essentially you, but unlike Shep, he'd be working to destroy galactic civilization.

Okay, as much as I love Metal Gear Solid, I think we need to leave the inane evil clone plotlines to Hideo Kojima. Bioware isn't nearly insane or trollish enough to pull it off.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Stories need a charismatic and threatening villain?


Narh, they need Saren's hoverboard.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Stories need a charismatic and threatening villain?


Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from one, yes.

The Illusive Man sort of fills that role, but you never face him in combat.

Harbinger was an underwhelming villain, because most times when he took possession of a Collector he was killed before he could finish his taunt or threat. He should have been used more sparingly, and when he did appear it should have been a boss fight.

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The Collectors - and by extension, Harbinger and the Human Reaper - were a MacGuffin.

Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to cover.

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Shepard is The Maker. How else would you explain how he soars high above in the sky, watching over Thedas?

There is no Maker.


Yeah, there is. He's just in an alternate dimension, way ahead of Thedas current timeline. He's known as Sheploo.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Stories need a charismatic and threatening villain?


Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from one, yes.

The Illusive Man sort of fills that role, but you never face him in combat.

Harbinger was sort of underwhelming villain, because most times when he took possession of a Collector he was killed before he could finish his taunt or threat. He should have been used more sparingly, and when he did appear it should have been a boss fight.


This.

I mean come on. Saren would've wiped out an entire army of Harbinger-controlled Collectors singlehandedly, and that's BEFORE meeting Sovereign.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

The Collectors - and by extension, Harbinger and the Human Reaper - were a MacGuffin.

Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to cover.


This is why I always put lots of butter on my toast.

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On one hand, the OP asks a valid question.  On the other hand, it apparently invites a lot of spam.  Where's the facepalm when you need it?

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Oh wait! There it is!  :?

ON TOPIC:  In ME2, you can ask Jacob Taylor  about being a clone.  He's pretty sure you're not.  He does, however, mention you having more bits and pieces to you.  Basically, Shepard is a cyborg (like previously stated).

Modifié par amcnow, 30 juin 2011 - 03:42 .


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Nozybidaj wrote...

Jesse Houston wrote...

Naw Shepard is a cyborg.


I believe the correct term is "Zombie" cyborg, geeze.......

Wrong, zombie cyborg was a nickname from ungrateful fans like you who like to whine alot. Shepard is a cyborg, not a zombie.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from one, yes.

The Illusive Man sort of fills that role, but you never face him in combat.

Harbinger was an underwhelming villain, because most times when he took possession of a Collector he was killed before he could finish his taunt or threat. He should have been used more sparingly, and when he did appear it should have been a boss fight.


In fairness they sortof squandered the opportunity to make the Shadow Broker ME2's villain; I mean working with the Collectors, sending a hitman/enforcer to take out Liara and retrieve Shepard's body and possibly being a major hinderance to The Illusive Man and Cerberus.

Instead he was just a boss in a short (but very good) DLC. <_<

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to cover.


Yes.  Needs moar butter.

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Jesse Houston wrote...

Naw Shepard is a cyborg.


Will this actually matter for ME3, Jesse? Because you really went out of your way to ignore any issue even marginally confronting this issue in ME2. Just a nay or yay would be great. If nay they being a cyborg means nothing, which means you shouldn't have done it in the first place, if yay I hope it really means more personal quests/scenes for Shepard when she's confronted with the nature of humanity.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The Collectors - and by extension, Harbinger and the Human Reaper - were a MacGuffin.

Mass
Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and
concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting
to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they
spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to
cover.


Too true. Needed more butter, AKA dev time or less bread AKA fewer characters.

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jlb524 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Mass Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to cover.


Yes.  Needs moar butter.


Actually I think what he was saying is they needed less bread, but yeah...... :P

Higher butter to bread ratio.  I guess how you get there doesn't really matter.

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Yeah, less bread. The butter is basically "the limited resources of time and budget."

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Shepard is a reaper

both shepard and reapers are created by the use of bio-synethic fusion.

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TomY90 wrote...

Shepard is a reaper

both shepard and reapers are created by the use of bio-synethic fusion.

The fan rage would be amazing.

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Sparrow Hawke wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Stories need a charismatic and threatening villain?


Narh, they need Saren's hoverboard.


Fight for the hoverboard!

Saren was right when he told Shepard he was a vision of the future. Pretty good foreshadowing (as well as 'full circling'), although I still wonder if they were planning to go with the whole "Shepard dies, Ceberus resurrects him as a organic-synthetic hybrid" from the very beginning.

As for the Maker, he/she is obvious just a mantle of the Elvhen god Fen'Harel.

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TomY90 wrote...

Shepard is a reaper

both shepard and reapers are created by the use of bio-synethic fusion.


Now you did it, you spoilered the whole of me3..

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Yeah, less bread. The butter is basically "the limited resources of time and budget."


Might as well make ME3 a Toasted Garlic Bagel with Cream Cheese.

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LPPrince wrote...

Might as well make ME3 a Toasted Garlic Bagel with Cream Cheese.


Now I'm just hungry. 

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Jacob said Shepard is not a clone.

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XxDeonxX wrote...

Would this immensely annoy you if it were the case, or would you be happy with the concept? That the Lazarus project actually cloned shepard because his body was to beyond repair to bring back to its original state despite future technology. Not actually to sure but has this been ruled out? I mean Jacob says he doesn't think shepard is a clone, but well Jacob isn't exactly sure... Plus who listens to Jacob anyway?

Anyway whats your thoughts on this?



Yes, it would immensely annoy me.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Might as well make ME3 a Toasted Garlic Bagel with Cream Cheese.


Now I'm just hungry. 

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Ironically, I have someone out getting me three Toasted Garlic Bagels with Cream Cheese.

And I compared it to Mass Effect 3. Hurr hurr, how convenient.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Jacob said Shepard is not a clone.


Jacob also said Shepard is the priiizze, so yeah. :P