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[Akizora]

Jesse Houston wrote...

Naw Shepard is a cyborg.

Lies, Shepard is an early make of a Terminator, at the end of Mass Effect 3 we'll be sent back into the past to stop Skynet from creating the Reapers.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Shepard is a bowl of petunias. It's lost to history, but the last thing to pass through Shepard's mind as she fell to the planet below was "Oh no, not this again."

[Taldira]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Jesse Houston wrote...

Naw Shepard is a cyborg.

Will this actually matter for ME3, Jesse? Because you really went out of your way to ignore any issue even marginally confronting this issue in ME2. Just a nay or yay would be great. If nay they being a cyborg means nothing, which means you shouldn't have done it in the first place, if yay I hope it really means more personal quests/scenes for Shepard when she's confronted with the nature of humanity.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The Collectors - and by extension, Harbinger and the Human Reaper - were a MacGuffin.

Mass
Effect 2 would have benefited from having fewer companions and
concentrating on the character-driven aspect of recruiting and getting
to know them.  Sort of what they attempted to do, but I feel like they
spread the butter too thin on the bread with too many characters to
cover.

Too true. Needed more butter, AKA dev time or less bread AKA fewer characters.

Well, in E3 coverage we saw Anderson asking Shepard about his unusual strength, when our badass cyborg opened that jammed door. So they'll at least aknowledge that he is part machine now.

And to answer OP, no, Shepard isn't a clone as was already stated.

[CroGamer002]

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Jacob said Shepard is not a clone.

Jacob also said Shepard is the priiizze, so yeah.

We he was right about it.

[JamieCOTC]

A. I don't think Shepard is a clone. S/he is a cyborg, but that doesn't really seem to matter (Overlord not withstanding).

B. The clone trope always brings its own baggage that has to be dealt with. Who am I really? What is my place in the world. etc, etc. It is, in a real sense, a spin on the Frankenstein tale. Unfortunately, that's been done to death and rarely has a satisfying spin outside of hard science fiction literature. To ignore the baggage, which would likely be the case in a video game, would add just another schism to the fanbase akin to the resurrection.

To answer the OP. If Shepard turned out to be a clone, it would suck.

[LGTX]

I'm sorry but, what difference does it make? His body, his memories. Unless Cerberus cloned him as an experiment to then develop an army or something, it's really unimportant whether he's a clone or not. And considering how much of his tissue is synthesized, he's better off being called a clone than not.

[mauro2222]

Ask to that **** --> Miranda.

[KainrycKarr]

Honestly, I think Shepard will turn out to be a bridge between reaper and human.

He has the parts and enhanced bits of an advanced Husk(Saren, Grayson), yet still retains his humanity and personality.

Basically, he is the best of the organics and synthetics. Or at least, this is what I'd like to happen.

It would make Shepard very distinct from humans, husks reapers, or just about anything else.

He would be something new, giving an actual REASON for him to be so...well, important. It would make him plot-relevant.

Because right now, he's just a badass who happens to be aware of the reapers.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 30 juin 2011 - 04:50 .

[krislandis]

I'm liking the cyborg Shep idea. Darth Shepard?

[JamieCOTC]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Honestly, I think Shepard will turn out to be a bridge between reaper and human.

He has the parts and enhanced bits of an advanced Husk(Saren, Grayson), yet still retains his humanity and personality.

Basically, he is the best of the organics and synthetics. Or at least, this is what I'd like to happen.

It would make Shepard very distinct from humans, husks reapers, or just about anything else.

He would be something new, giving an actual REASON for him to be so...well, important. It would make him plot-relevant.

Because right now, he's just a badass who happens to be aware of the reapers.

I like this human ...

[Mathy16]

As far as I know you cannot clone memories, Shepard still had all his memories after the Lazarus project. I don't believe the Shepard we played in ME2 is a clone. It would be stupid either way..

[Crimmsonwind]

I don't think Shep's a clone, no. I do think that you could make the argument that Shep's a cyborg with the amount of "extra bits and pieces" s/he has holding him/her together now, though. But I don't think they're a clone, and I don't think there will be an encounter with a clone, or anything. Maybe they'll use whatever genetic material they had left over from project Lazarus to play around with the idea of a couple of supersoldiers based on Shepard (I hope not because that would be stupid) but I just don't think there would be enough time story-wise. I'm not sure how the timeline is gonna work, particularly between ME2, the DLC, and ME3. I would have to image that cloning, or at least using DNA to construct some viable Shepard-based soldiers would take time. But they were pretty intent on bringing the actual Shepard back.

As for the "bridge between human and reaper" making Shepard special... Shep's already special. S/he's got the prothean cipher, which gives Shep the ability to understand at least some degree of Prothean speech. This should be kind of a big deal, I'd think, so I'm kind of surprised this hasn't come up more. The visions from the beacon are likely useless now, they already served their purpose. But the ability to understand the language of a long-dead race seems like it should be something.

Just my opinions though, of course.

[Siansonea]

Shepard is a new type of Husk.

The Lazarus project was created by Cerberus, and we know that the Illusive Man has known about the Reapers for a lot longer than most folks. Heck, TIM himself might be a quasi-Husk creature. Dragon's teeth on Eden Prime were used to first kill, then reanimate humans into Husks, who's to say that Cerberus didn't reanimate Shepard using Husk technology? We know that TIM sends scientists whenever a Reaper artifact or technology is found (though how he missed Object Rho is anybody's guess).

[VendettaI154]

No Shepard, you ARE the Reapers. And then Shepard was a Reaper. TEH EDN....?

[gogman25]

In theory a man with a pacemaker is a cyborg, Shepard is mostly organic and as we saw with the Lazarus project very little actual tech was used, probably just a few tech augmentations that you could probably give to a standard human through an operation.

I'm guessing that these were high-grade augmentations though, perhaps like Wolverines Adamant skeleton?

[Han Shot First]

The thing is, if Shepard turns out to be anything more than he thinks he is (clone, full on cyborg) they'd have to explain in a convincing way, why Miranda never told him about it. She was the project head for Lazarus. While not letting Shep in on everything that went on with Lazarus might make sense some point prior to the suicide mission, it would be harder to explain why she'd keep him in the dark after. This is especially true on playthroughs where she is in a relationship with Shepard, and has told the Illusive Man to go fxck himself out of loyalty to Shepard.

[Chuvvy]

Yeah he is. I'm sure I've seen a bald space marine protagonist before.

[Destroy Raiden_]

I would be annoyed or more like angry if shep turned out to be a clone and then he was fighting his clone selves throuhout 3. They did this to death for Metal Gear and then in Evangelion Rei was a clone she finds out later and ends up destroying the world.

Though at the same time I'd be upset I could see it TIM needed so badly for shep to believe he was himself so either shep is a clone or he's been revived through the husk beacon that changed TIM and so must believe he's the real shep or else he'll succumb to it's effects. It's obvious TIM is playing a mind over matter game. Though between the two possibilities I'd rather shep was infused with husk tech then him being a clone.

[KingNothing125]

Arcian wrote...

I don't think Shepard is a clone, I think the Cerberus soldiers in ME3 are clones.

Of Shepard.

*Dramatic sound*

This is actually a twist I could get behind.

[Siansonea]

Han Shot First wrote...

The thing is, if Shepard turns out to be anything more than he thinks he is (clone, full on cyborg) they'd have to explain in a convincing way, why Miranda never told him about it. She was the project head for Lazarus. While not letting Shep in on everything that went on with Lazarus might make sense some point prior to the suicide mission, it would be harder to explain why she'd keep him in the dark after. This is especially true on playthroughs where she is in a relationship with Shepard, and has told the Illusive Man to go fxck himself out of loyalty to Shepard.

Why would Miranda tell anyone anything? Unless it served her purpose, I mean? Miranda keeps her own counsel, she doesn't give away a bit of information that isn't crucial to accomplishing some goal. And I'm not convinced she's all that truthful even under those circumstances. And that's why I LOVE the Miranda character. 

[Uszi]

You're all right. He's a zombie clone made into a reaper cyborg.

[ME-ParaShep]

Shepard.. is.. YOUR.. FAAAAATHEEEEER!

[VegasVance]

If we go up against "clone Sheps" in ME3 after I kill them is it considered masturbation if I tea-bag the corpse?

[Chuvvy]

Shepard is the OGB.