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Turian Councilor: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Turian Councilor: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Anderson: How's the irony taste Velarn?
Velarn: Bitter...
Anderson: Good.

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batarians have to go. Will kill them if I can in ME3 but I have a feeling that most if not all of their worlds are destroyed by the start of the game.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Turian Councilor: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Anderson: How's the irony taste Velarn?
Velarn: Ah yes, "Irony"...
Anderson: ANDERSON, PUUUNCH! *thud*



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DoNotIngest wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Turian Councilor: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Anderson: How's the irony taste Velarn?
Velarn: Ah yes, "Irony"...
Anderson: ANDERSON, PUUUNCH! *thud*



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Shepard: Never gets old does it?
Anderson: Nope.
Hackett: *standing over an unconcious al-Jilani* Nope.

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Shepard: Not so quick to tell me what's so wrong about it now, are ya, Hackett?

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I like to think "the Galaxy" above humankind, personally... If we were picking areas of mass population of other species VS Earth, I might just choose Earth over the homeworld of Asari, Turians or Salarians, because of how spread out they are...


That's a very logical way to approach the dilemma. You are on the right track here.

The other races can stand a lose a lot more than we can. Humans are in a fragile position. We have the potential to keep growing, but losing the Earth now (and most of the species) would pretty much relegate us to being a backwater race for the foreseeable future.

When it comes to Tuchanka... I don't know why anyone would save it. The krogan contribute nothing good to the galaxy and their planet is a ****hole anyway. Let the Reapers reap them, I'm sure they'll still survive and probably won't even notice.

The drell I think would survive the destruction of Kahje. They still have people on their actual homeworld, their homeworld is just a Fallout style ruin. Probably beneath the Reapers' notice (for now anyway).

DoNotIngest wrote...

The Fleet would certainly gain priority over Earth. Though the numbers might be hugely different, it'd be a calamity similar to that of the Drell, except on a race that has already endured a lot of hardship, and could vastly contribute to the Galaxy, were they to be given the option.


I think you just like quarians.

I like them too, but if it comes down to it I'll save Earth and preserve a few quarians in a zoo or something...

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Shepard: Not so quick to tell me what's so wrong about it now, are ya, Hackett?

Hackett: I had to command the allied fleet against a Fleet of Reapers! I needed to release some stress.
Zaeed: You goddamned tell him brother!

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

*A big speech in the Citadel tower*
Udina: In order to ensure the security and continuing stability the Council shall be reorganized into the FIRST GALACTIC (human) EMPIRE! For a safe and secure....society! *Udina fist clench*

*crowd applauds*


"...and this is how democracy dies; with thunderous applause." - Tali

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

*A big speech in the Citadel tower*
Udina: In order to ensure the security and continuing stability the Council shall be reorganized into the FIRST GALACTIC (human) EMPIRE! For a safe and secure....society! *Udina fist clench*

*crowd applauds*


"...and this is how democracy dies; with thunderous applause." - Tali

*Stormtroopers Cerberus commandos are killing Alien Biotics all over the galaxy*

*Wrex and Liara are breaking into the Jedi Temple Citadel archives*
Wrex: I've recalibrated the signal, it now tells all surviving alien biotics to stay away.

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I was imagining a purge of the alien Spectres, actually.

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I was imagining a purge of the alien Spectres, actually.

Biotics are the closest thing ME has to the force.

But fine a purge of alien spectres and biotics.

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atheelogos wrote...

batarians have to go. Will kill them if I can in ME3 but I have a feeling that most if not all of their worlds are destroyed by the start of the game.


I'm a nub, how do we now the Batarians are getting murdered? 

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Toshir wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

batarians have to go. Will kill them if I can in ME3 but I have a feeling that most if not all of their worlds are destroyed by the start of the game.


I'm a noob, how do we now the Batarians are getting reaped? 

The Reapers go through Batarian space to get at Earth.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Toshir wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

batarians have to go. Will kill them if I can in ME3 but I have a feeling that most if not all of their worlds are destroyed by the start of the game.


I'm a noob, how do we now the Batarians are getting reaped? 

The Reapers go through Batarian space to get at Earth.


So even my Paragon Shepards can enjoy the benefits of a Batarian-less galaxy without sullying their moral standing in the galactic community? Excellent.

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What Cheez said, and I'll add that they have a HOLY SH!TLOAD of Batarians husks. Seriously, you kill about 40 of them in the opening scene. Reapahs dun Reapahrazed dem guise!



Saphra Deden wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

I like to think "the Galaxy" above humankind, personally... If we were picking areas of mass population of other species VS Earth, I might just choose Earth over the homeworld of Asari, Turians or Salarians, because of how spread out they are...


That's a very logical way to approach the dilemma. You are on the right track here.

The other races can stand a lose a lot more than we can. Humans are in a fragile position. We have the potential to keep growing, but losing the Earth now (and most of the species) would pretty much relegate us to being a backwater race for the foreseeable future.

When it comes to Tuchanka... I don't know why anyone would save it. The krogan contribute nothing good to the galaxy and their planet is a ****hole anyway. Let the Reapers reap them, I'm sure they'll still survive and probably won't even notice.

The drell I think would survive the destruction of Kahje. They still have people on their actual homeworld, their homeworld is just a Fallout style ruin. Probably beneath the Reapers' notice (for now anyway).


The Salarians would probably lose the most, and they'd still retain at least 60% of their population, putting it lightly. Tuchanka would be a sad choice, because there may be no Krogan females anywhere else in the Galaxy (Though I suppose cloning could work? If only for Krogan, unkillable bastards).

Didn't think there were any Drell anywheres but on the Hanar homeworld, except for the odd one out on a mission, like Thane & that poor deluded Kolyat (Haven't played LotSB *yet*, dunno about Feron).

DoNotIngest wrote...

The Fleet would certainly gain priority over Earth. Though the numbers might be hugely different, it'd be a calamity similar to that of the Drell, except on a race that has already endured a lot of hardship, and could vastly contribute to the Galaxy, were they to be given the option.


I think you just like quarians.

I like them too, but if it comes down to it I'll save Earth and preserve a few quarians in a zoo or something...





'Course I like dem Quarians, I'm diddlying with one, aren't I? Image IPB But when it comes down to it, the Council would be more likely to help the freaking *Krogan* rebuild than the Quarians; They built them a damned statue, didn't they? And given that all you'll have left are a couple hundred thousand Quarians scattered around the Galaxy, with any remnants of their nearly-lost culture destroyed along with the Fleet, I really would choose 17 million Quarians over 12 billion humans & cute widdle animals.

Besides, can you imagine the "sympathy"? Hell, I'd feel terrible for choosing between them, but I'm sure a certain someone would devote her every effort to soothe Image IPB To borrow a quote:



"Heh heh, Paragon Prodigy! Wooh! Heh heh heh!"

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I wouldn't want *any* of the galaxy's species to become extinct. OK...maybe the Vorcha, but they're the rats of the galaxy - will survive anywhere.

But if it's possible to set up the situation so that certain species take more casualties than others, then these are the candidates I'd choose:

(1) Turians. Only the Council keeps their imperialism in check. Better they come out a little weaker after the war.

Hmm...actually that was it. My neutral and moderately pro-human Shepard might also target the asari, but they're a force for stability, which might be in short supply after the war. It all depends on the situation. I'd not target the krogan because they've problems enough with the genophage, which I most likely won't cure, and not the quarians because there are so few of them. Not the batarians because they've likely already been decimated by the Reapers more than any other species, not the salarians because they're needed. I'll look at the concrete situation I'll face in ME3 and decide from there.

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I'd happily get rid of the Batarians and Quarians. The Vorcha too.

I will sacrifice every other species for humanity.  

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Well sorry for bringing the Quarian/Geth debate into this thread. I was only pointing out why i felt the Quarians to be more expendable, but truly my Shepard is out to save as many races as he can. Only their ignorance will keep my Shepard from saving any one race. Also like i said earlier i would use this Chaos the Reaper Invasion sprung to get rid of certain factions, mainly the criminal run kind :D. If an off chance these factions wanted to help, they would than become my Bantha Fodder

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No species is irreplaceable, whatever it takes.

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I'm sensing that some here are on Gavorn's take with all these anti-Vorcha postings.

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When poeple talk of sacrificing races, do tehy really think total eliomination of an entire race?
That is a really tall order, even for Reapers. Think about it. The races aren't neatly clustered in one spot so that you can kill all the Asari/humans/raceX in the galaxy simple. They are spread out.
You want to kill all of hte asari? Good luck. They live on multiple planets, many in the territory of other races. And they won't be standing still either,

The question should more likely be - which race would you submit to the greatest harm/danger?

Because you'll have to. War is hell. A commadner has to sometimes order soldiers into situation he knows they probably (sometimes even surely) won't be coming back. And he then has to pick soldiers to send.
That isn't any different than picking a race (and by race I mean racial fleet/army).
You won't be sending every last salarian man, woman and child into the frey.

Do you send the quarians or the Krogans to stage a massive (and probably fatal) diversion? Do you send in the asari or human fleet to flank, while the other fleet evacuates civilians?

No matter what you choose, SOMEONE will come out of worse for wear.
From a political/practical standpoitn, this basicly amounts down to - which races forces are best to handle situation X? Or which race do I submit to the greatest danger/losses?

In order to save the galaxy the reapers have to be stopped. In order to stop the Reapers a LOT of sentients will have to die.
Once the reapers are defeated, the political cliamte and balance of power will definately change in someone favor, but a total anihilation of an entire race? Hardly.


On another thought, I would how 0 qualms with shutting down all Geth or EDI. I don't belive in true AI and sentience.

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When poeple talk of sacrificing races, do tehy really think total eliomination of an entire race?
That is a really tall order, even for Reapers. Think about it.


With the kind of firepower available in the galaxy? Not really.

Though I don't think about it in the context of EVERY MEMBER being dead. More like their presence in the galaxy on a galactic level is reduced to nearly being non-existent.

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Won't even try to get into this supposed "Anger" (You're making me laugh more than "Miranda is a tranny" Image IPB) vibe is coming from, and this crap about University; My mother spent 9 years in University, getting various medical & fauna-related education for the sole purpose of not filling the job requirements, but to gain a better understanding for a passion of hers; Being a veterinarian (And she's been one for over thirty years, mind).


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2) Racist? See what you did there. I proved you to be a libtard dingbat and you went back to old faithful, the race card. Please systematically explain what I said that makes me a racist, a bigot, a sexist. I would be really interested to see how your definition of these words matches up to what they actually mean. Strike two against you.

"Libtard dingbat." Uh-huh. Sirrah, your maturity knows no bounds. Whether real or imagined, a race is a race, and genocide is genocide; Imagining sexual acts with a child to pleasure yourself still makes you a pedophile, in my mind. The bigotry abounds, and I really don't feel like collecting it all up from when it spilled out of your mouth (This conversation isn't for your benefit; Look at what other people have said about you). And the sexism was from you considering it an insult to call me a woman. Funny, I respect women, maybe you should try it? Makes it easier to get a nice one by your side.

3) You have made several condescending comments about the US. One could easily deduce you are an America hater. Is it jealousy? Snide comments by some turd on the internet only proves one thing - agenda. If it IS an agenda then I am, once again, proven correct in my original comment in this thread (first post I made). Strike three against you.

Jealous? Condescending? I'm just rather sympathetic to the reasonable US-dwellers that have your ilk reflect upon them as a whole. And no, I'm not jealous of your poor economy, record obesity, corporate greed, pay-for-your-limbs healthcare, high levels of racism*, gun-toting mentality*... Wow, should probably stop before I make a wall of text.

*Not stating this is a majority of people; the worse are always the largest.

You must have thought my childish comments equated that I was some uneducated gerbil, right? Understandable. However, sooner or later you run into a person that is simply better in every possible facet then you as you have just ran into with me. I can take whatever you say, and own it like I plan to own the Quarians in ME3. Anyhow, I gave you a lot of work to do, so get to it. One thing I am certain of though and that is you dont have the balls to post what country you come from. Cowards and cowards no matter what walk of life, no matter IRL, on a message forum, or wherever. I smell you, I own you, and now you belong to me. So as your master, I command you to get to work attempting to explain the dark energy destruction I just laid at your feet. REMEMBER, no liberal back talk allowed, only facts and refutation.



Mhm. Better in every possible facet, you are, and your Grand American Race is better than those Dirty Mexicans, Jihading Terrorists, Dumb Brits, Evil Inhuman Chinese, etc etc etc. Riiiight. Might I remind you that the US was colonized by the English and not the French (who had much greater numbers and wealth to fuel their military) because the Crown took land from the farmers and shipped them off to the New World? Hardly legendary beginnings, love, though not to say that makes the US any less worthy than other nations.

Trying to rile me up with the Quarian talk? Go ahead, it's your game (Though I have no clue why someone such as yourself would be playing it...? The shooter isn't that good), and have fun with it, if that's what floats your boat.

I come from Yarmouth, a poor port town in Nova Scotia, Canada. I eagerly await your orgasms of "COMMUNIST!" and "LIBERAL!" (Wait, that's what Canadians all are, right? Liberals? Not sure with all this "AMURICA!" lingo).

And sure, you *Volus wheeze* own me, and you *Volus wheeze* own this whole room (references FTW =D), and you're a big mean SOB who throws dark energy destruction through the Interwebz. I submit to you, Oh True American Master Race King, please do not ravish me of my manhood! Image IPB




PS: If you're really just a troll, I'd like to shake your hand in real life. You do a great impression of the typical opinion of a middle-aged, overweight, gun-toting (Sorry, am I projecting about my Uncle In-Law?) "OH AMERIHICA!", err... Person. You've given me more fun than King Zeel in this one night than he gave over his two weeks of Trollhood, and that's no small feat! Image IPB




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Hey, there is nothing wrong with Canada. I mean...after all...they burn a city, burn cop cars and loot stores after losing a Stanley Cup series. I personally think the entire world should take note of those Canadians because your people REALLY know how to get things done...right? 

So, you're mother went to University for 9 years? So what? So your mother is a veteranarian? So what? What does any of what I asked have to do with your mother? Unless of course you are trying to justify being in college for EIGHT (8) years? Now then, if you are saying you are in Medical School/Law School, then that is something different. However, I get the feeling that is a no on both accounts.

Incorrect, a video game RACE is not a race because it is an imagined bunch of pixels thrown together in a fantasy based world. Perhaps in your world you consider the Quarians to be an actual people. Perhaps you decided to romance Tali and have posters of her all over your EIGHT (8) year held college dorm room, however, at the end of the day, she and the Quarians are make believe. Thus, no race, no genocide, no racism. If what you said was true then people would be thrown in jail for thinking something. Real World > Fantasy World. Get it? BS aside I really hope you do because it is very, very sad you are comparing a video game race to that of Hispanic, etc.

So you think calling someone a woman makes them sexist? Wow. For a guy who "CLAIMS" to have been in college for EIGHT (8) years, you really need to shore up what these words actually mean because being in college for EIGHT (8) years would make you roughly 26 and a 26 year old man who thinks/acts this way is a disgrace.

As far as the U.S. goes. I would think a Canadian would be kissing our butts. If we werent here, do you really think Canada would have survived as long as it has? Seriously....? Not to mention that we lead the world in...oh lets see, military power, GOP, social services, etc etc. Like you, I can make a wall of text but I am not so insecure about this great land that has kept your "country" afloat for 200 years. However, please feel free to tell me when the last time Canada mattered in anything internationally? I actually mean this in a non offensive manner and more of an educational manner. When was the last time that Canada did something for the betterment (the country or a citizen) of mankind. I love history and give credit where credit is due and I cannot think of ONE single thing. Matter of fact I just opened a new web and google'd it and nothing came up. Perhaps you can enlighten me on the greatness that is Canada?

America isn't a race. So saying "Grand American Race" is also a contradiction and slap to yourself if you believe the garbage you type. In fact, America is an assortment of various races. How is Canada with that? Last time I was there, I didn't see many Mexicans or African Americans. Does Canada take issue with them? Hmmm...

You could have just asked me my opinion on races and I would have been 100 percent honest. However, you didnt so I will explain once again, Quarians, Batarians, and Vorscha are all extinct if it will up the chance for the Earths survival. I fully support/would support Cerberus' actions. The betterment of human kind (in a fantasy world) and America (in the real world) is paramount. Dont fool yourself, 9/10 people think this way, many are just too cowardly to say it in this politically correct world because the libtards claim racism is someone burps the wrong way. Well my dear lad, I have done well enough in life to be comfortable in my own skin and not worry about what some "man" who has spent EIGHT (8) years in college thinks when he is from a country that burns cop cars because they lost a hockey game.

class over, time for bed. Please come back again if you need a refresher course on anything else and kudos to your mom (shrug) for graduating college.....you must be proud!

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Hey, there is nothing wrong with Canada. I mean...after all...they burn a city, burn cop cars and loot stores after losing a Stanley Cup series. I personally think the entire world should take note of those Canadians because your people REALLY know how to get things done...right? 

So, you're mother went to University for 9 years? So what? So your mother is a veteranarian? So what? What does any of what I asked have to do with your mother? Unless of course you are trying to justify being in college for EIGHT (8) years? Now then, if you are saying you are in Medical School/Law School, then that is something different. However, I get the feeling that is a no on both accounts.

Incorrect, a video game RACE is not a race because it is an imagined bunch of pixels thrown together in a fantasy based world. Perhaps in your world you consider the Quarians to be an actual people. Perhaps you decided to romance Tali and have posters of her all over your EIGHT (8) year held college dorm room, however, at the end of the day, she and the Quarians are make believe. Thus, no race, no genocide, no racism. If what you said was true then people would be thrown in jail for thinking something. Real World > Fantasy World. Get it? BS aside I really hope you do because it is very, very sad you are comparing a video game race to that of Hispanic, etc.

So you think calling someone a woman makes them sexist? Wow. For a guy who "CLAIMS" to have been in college for EIGHT (8) years, you really need to shore up what these words actually mean because being in college for EIGHT (8) years would make you roughly 26 and a 26 year old man who thinks/acts this way is a disgrace.

As far as the U.S. goes. I would think a Canadian would be kissing our butts. If we werent here, do you really think Canada would have survived as long as it has? Seriously....? Not to mention that we lead the world in...oh lets see, military power, GOP, social services, etc etc. Like you, I can make a wall of text but I am not so insecure about this great land that has kept your "country" afloat for 200 years. However, please feel free to tell me when the last time Canada mattered in anything internationally? I actually mean this in a non offensive manner and more of an educational manner. When was the last time that Canada did something for the betterment (the country or a citizen) of mankind. I love history and give credit where credit is due and I cannot think of ONE single thing. Matter of fact I just opened a new web and google'd it and nothing came up. Perhaps you can enlighten me on the greatness that is Canada?

America isn't a race. So saying "Grand American Race" is also a contradiction and slap to yourself if you believe the garbage you type. In fact, America is an assortment of various races. How is Canada with that? Last time I was there, I didn't see many Mexicans or African Americans. Does Canada take issue with them? Hmmm...

You could have just asked me my opinion on races and I would have been 100 percent honest. However, you didnt so I will explain once again, Quarians, Batarians, and Vorscha are all extinct if it will up the chance for the Earths survival. I fully support/would support Cerberus' actions. The betterment of human kind (in a fantasy world) and America (in the real world) is paramount. Dont fool yourself, 9/10 people think this way, many are just too cowardly to say it in this politically correct world because the libtards claim racism is someone burps the wrong way. Well my dear lad, I have done well enough in life to be comfortable in my own skin and not worry about what some "man" who has spent EIGHT (8) years in college thinks when he is from a country that burns cop cars because they lost a hockey game.

class over, time for bed. Please come back again if you need a refresher course on anything else and kudos to your mom (shrug) for graduating college.....you must be proud!



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