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#401
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XxDeonxX wrote...

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Nations serve to separate groups of people, 'us' from 'them', though they are not necessarily divisive in and of themselves. As long as language, appearance or location continue to be the difining factor in determining 'us' or 'them' then the nation-state will continue. I doubt humanity will be unified in any appreciable way until there is some other 'them' that makes all humans 'us'. /Pompous Lecture

Anyway, on topic, I don't really like the idea of sacrificing another race...I don't particularly like the Batarians or the Vorcha, and most of the races have elements that aren't exacly lovable, but none of that is grounds for allowing them to be wiped out, let alone actually putting them in a position to be destroyed.

In all honesty, if I was forced into such a position, it would probably depend more on what I was feeling at the time than anything else. In any case, except for the Quarians, no race is really limited enough numerically or geographically to be destroyed outright with a single decision...


What about Drell or Quarians? I mean sure they are bound to have some members of their race elsewhere from their central population but not enough will be spread elsewhere to sustain a viable population. It will be the protheans all over again


I mentioned the Quarians...and forgot the Drell. So yes, two races are at risk if their primary population center is lost. That we know of anyway; likely there are dozens of races like the Yahg which have enough tech to attract the Reapers and not enough real-estate to sustain heavy casualties.

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I wouldn't sacrifice any.

I'd like to point out a few thing things though.

Batarians aren't all evil. We've only really met outcasts and criminals.

The vorcha seemed to be the way they were because they're always treated like vermin. Just my impression though.

Elcor would in no way be useless to the war effort and they work pretty much like mobile tanks.

I don't think the Hanar and Volus are useless either, we just haven't seen them as much because they don't take the centre of the plot like the others.

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JamesStark wrote...

I wouldn't sacrifice any.

I'd like to point out a few thing things though.

Batarians aren't all evil. We've only really met outcasts and criminals.

The vorcha seemed to be the way they were because they're always treated like vermin. Just my impression though.

Elcor would in no way be useless to the war effort and they work pretty much like mobile tanks.

I don't think the Hanar and Volus are useless either, we just haven't seen them as much because they don't take the centre of the plot like the others.


Yeah Batarian Criminals and pirates funded by the Batarian government to attack human colonies.

Vorcha are treated like Vermin because they essentially are vermin, they have no higher intellect then what we have seen and they are savages who kill each other in the masses.. The only reason they are in space is because the krogan uplifted them, they have no government because they dont have diplomacy or anything.. they are just talking animals that lack everything that seperates us from animals.

Mobile tanks would be useless against giant reapers, plus those mobile tanks are extremely slow to move, respond and in general.

Hanar I dont think would be useless, Zaeed talks about how one almost strangled him to death and he has been very wary of them ever since, I think they might actually contribute something to the war efforts..

Volus... Apart from their strong financial skills which are pretty much useless in a total war for the survival of existance they dont have anything real to contribute to such a war effort.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 02 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .


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JamesStark wrote...

I wouldn't sacrifice any.

I'd like to point out a few thing things though.

Batarians aren't all evil. We've only really met outcasts and criminals.

The vorcha seemed to be the way they were because they're always treated like vermin.
Just my impression though.

Elcor would in no way be useless to the war effort and they work pretty much like mobile tanks.

I don't think the Hanar and Volus are useless either, we just haven't seen them as much because they don't take the centre of the plot like the others.


Because they are. :wizard:

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Vorcha, Batarians, Elcor, and Volus.

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XxDeonxX wrote...

JamesStark wrote...

I wouldn't sacrifice any.

I'd like to point out a few thing things though.

Batarians aren't all evil. We've only really met outcasts and criminals.

The vorcha seemed to be the way they were because they're always treated like vermin. Just my impression though.

Elcor would in no way be useless to the war effort and they work pretty much like mobile tanks.

I don't think the Hanar and Volus are useless either, we just haven't seen them as much because they don't take the centre of the plot like the others.


Yeah Batarian Criminals and pirates funded by the Batarian government to attack human colonies.

Vorcha are treated like Vermin because they essentially are vermin, they have no higher intellect then what we have seen and they are savages who kill each other in the masses.. The only reason they are in space is because the krogan uplifted them, they have no government because they dont have diplomacy or anything.. they are just talking animals that lack everything that seperates us from animals.

Mobile tanks would be useless against giant reapers, plus those mobile tanks are extremely slow to move, respond and in general.

Hanar I dont think would be useless, Zaeed talks about how one almost strangled him to death and he has been very wary of them ever since, I think they might actually contribute something to the war efforts..

Volus... Apart from their strong financial skills which are pretty much useless in a total war for the survival of existance they dont have anything real to contribute to such a war effort.

Ok, fair point. The Batarians on Omega, during Mordin's recruitment, were only initially hostile because they didn't trust you. The sick Batarian thought it was humans who released the virus. So did the ones threatening Daniel. A batarian expresses discust at the thought of humans looting the homes of the dead. While not to many I admit, it does show that you can't condemn a species based on a handful of pirates and mercenaries or there government.

Vorcha have no other employment options other than Krogan merc bands due to racism. Wether they would try to get employment else where if given the chance is another story. Even so, they still have there uses. Have a group colonise a planet that has a barely breathable atmosphere and, depending on the planet, could have resource collecting colony.

We already know there's a ground force, so walking tanks would be very useful. They're also incredibly strong.
I was under the impression that their slowness was deliberate, and that they could be faster if they chose to. Don't know though.

Actually, I think that story took place under water. I think they're pretty useless in combat otherwise.  They have at least a small fleet though if they were able to get Drell off there homeworld.

Fighting a war isn't free. It's unlikely everyones going giving away there supplys, especially consider how awkward the galaxy is choosing to be. Even if they did, rebuilding definately wont. They'll prioritise the Citidel, the homeworlds and a few vital colonies so the smaller colonies will need to get outside contractors to help them rebuild, which'll cost money. I don't know how much the galactic economy relies on them so I don't know if it'll collapse, but at the very least it'll be damn harder for the smaller colonies.

Excuse the spelling errors. It's late.

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Quarians, vorcha and hanar i want then gone ...

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None shall survive the upcoming decimation that is the void of dark space. Squabble with each other on who shall die first and who shall be extinguished last, it does not matter, you will inevitably die and be apart of the cycle we have continued for eons.

Our arrival will be from the dark depths of Yuggoth. Where we will swarm all setient life for reasons unknowable to minds of such a lower dimension.

Modifié par mumatil, 04 juillet 2011 - 07:16 .


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All but Elfs and Humans...I mean who else will work for santa so he can make our gifts =p

Seriously though Dark Spawn...

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mumatil wrote...

None shall survive the upcoming decimation that is the void of dark space. Squabble with each other on who shall die first and who shall be extinguished last, it does not matter, you will inevitably die and be apart of the cycle we have continued for eons.

Our arrival will be from the dark depths of Yuggoth. Where we will swarm all setient life for reasons unknowable to minds of such a lower dimension.


Tennyson right? =P

seriously though lay off the Lovecraft novels =P lol

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All races are expendable. Only one needs to survive, at no point will I say the cost is to high because if you do, you lose everything. Though I'm not sure bioware can effectively pull that off, they have yet to make me feel desperate in their games.

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Save as many as possible.

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Your mum

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mauro2222 wrote...
Do you really readed what I wrote before? Nations divide people. They exist because it´s easier to see the problem and turn your head, people are too used to leave the problems to another human. Invasion from who? hypothetically assuming that the world is one, someone in lurk for power? against the whole world?. And history is learned for to not make the same mistakes again, because something existed for 1000 years doesn´t make it good, religion is an example.


Anything that is used to unify cna be used to divide, and vice-versa. Two sides of the same blade.
Ultimatively, humans are better at working on smaller levels, hence why nations exist and why they will probably always exist. Everyone in the universe holding hands and singing "cumbaya" makes fairy tales look like a scientific doctorate.

And you call religion bad?
Don't go there....DON'T. Unless you want a flame war of epic proprtions.