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[CroGamer002]

randomchasegurney overestimated Quarians, but you Arcian underestimated them.

[CroGamer002]

@Grand Admiral Cheesecake not cool.

[MrObnoxiousUK]

A good general does not waste soldiers lives without good reason.Throwing away trained people in a war of extinction for no good reason is a luxery you really cannot afford.
Personally i think most of the missions will revolve around holding actions to evacuate non combatants while you look for answers as the Reapers can only be slowed down not stopped.So supply centres,indoctrination stations,refuelling points ect will be viable targets to aid in the above mentioned civilian evacuations.
Then when Shepard finds his dues ex machina will a military strike on a grand scale be mobilised.

[Fixers0]

Turians and quarians.

[HTTP 404]

expendable from human perspective? of course its every specie but the human. Vorcha are expendable on my list. never met a nice vorcha yet.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Mesina2 wrote...

@Grand Admiral Cheesecake not cool.

You are right my original system is not fair.

I'll put a picture of each species on a dart board.
I'll close my eyes and throw a dart.
The one that the dart hits is the one I wipe out.
Much more fair!

[DialupToaster]

Mesina2 wrote...

randomchasegurney overestimated Quarians, but you Arcian underestimated them.

I'm not being exact, I am showing the strengths of the species and for quarians it just so happens to be their ships, same as the turians thus either can die as long as the other lives.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

HTTP 404 wrote...

expendable from human perspective? of course its every specie but the human. Vorcha are expendable on my list. never met a nice vorcha yet.

That's not fair I'm human and I'd consider ME's humanity to be expendable.

[HTTP 404]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

expendable from human perspective? of course its every specie but the human. Vorcha are expendable on my list. never met a nice vorcha yet.

That's not fair I'm human and I'd consider ME's humanity to be expendable.

com'n its vorcha! you can put humans second.  I would be okay with that.

[Someone With Mass]

If I can sacrifice Earth to come up with a plan that isn't as derpy as "we fight or we die" I'd gladly do it.

[Eurhetemec]

hhh89 wrote...

Fair enough. But in my opinion poverty will always been present in human society.  We are greedy, and think only about ourselves. Poverty was always present in every human society, from Ancient Egypt (and before) to nowadays, passing between every economical system.

That's not actually true. Poverty is a product of civilization and the combination of greed and the fact that the people who make the laws also often make the most money. When the people who make the laws aren't the ones who make the most money (over their lifetimes - politicians are often poorly paid whilst in office, but make millions after office in return for the favour they do), there's a heck of a lot less poverty in societies. Funny that.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

HTTP 404 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

expendable from human perspective? of course its every specie but the human. Vorcha are expendable on my list. never met a nice vorcha yet.

That's not fair I'm human and I'd consider ME's humanity to be expendable.

com'n its vorcha! you can put humans second.  I would be okay with that.

But the vorcha no fall for Gavorn's humanities tricks.

[DialupToaster]

Arcian wrote...

randomchasegurney wrote...

Quarians = large fleet, could replace turians as peace keeping force.

DUDE, come on! Their fleet mainly consists of downtrodden, ancient civilian ships. A fleet of a thousand turian cruisers could easily wipe the Migrant Fleet from the face of the galaxy with little to no casualties.

The key word is "could" if you guessed correctly step up to recieve your prize, if you guessed incorrectly please report to you local firing squad (there will be cake). Thank you and have a nice day.

[mauro2222]

hhh89 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Yeti13 wrote...

hmmm the only expendable race is Humanity, I will try my damnedest to save the rest

^ This. If I have to choose, humanity will be way down in my list, I don`t want to save something that doesn`t even represents me, mass effect humanity and our actual society are a shame.

He, I feel the same with my nation's society. Well, the major part of it (especially the politic's class<_<)
But in truth, we don't know a lot about ME human society. We only saw the Alliance and the spacial/colonial humans, which doesn't represent the majority of humans. We didn't see much of what is Eart society and governement in previous games (since the Alliance isn't the Eart government). We only know that poverty still exist in Earth, and not much more.

That's why I think they still are the same stupid undeveloped primates that we are today.

Fair enough. But in my opinion poverty will always been present in human society.  We are greedy, and think only about ourselves. Poverty was always present in every human society, from Ancient Egypt (and before) to nowadays, passing between every economical system.

We are greedy, and think only about ourselves[b]
That's not true, I'm not at all like that, and you are not like that too, human behavior has nothing in common with human nature.

Modifié par mauro2222, 30 juin 2011 - 05:58 .

[mauro2222]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

expendable from human perspective? of course its every specie but the human. Vorcha are expendable on my list. never met a nice vorcha yet.

That's not fair I'm human and I'd consider ME's humanity to be expendable.

com'n its vorcha! you can put humans second.  I would be okay with that.

But the vorcha no fall for Gavorn's humanities tricks.

Who the hell was Gavorn? I think I never found him

[Asari_Party]

Fixers0 wrote...

Turians and quarians.

this

[Mako Zalos]

Quarians, but I will save Kal'Reegar.

[Sheppard-Commander]

Arcian wrote...

Destroying Earth is basically dooming the human species to the role of servants to the other species, not unlike the drell.

What? How do you get to that conclusion? There are tens (if not hundreds) of millions of humans that arent on Earth. Elysium? Eden Prime? Bekenstein? Terra Nova? Thats just off the top of my head. Unlike the Drell, Humans have spread across the galaxy, and who really believes humans would ever accept being a pet species like the Drell are to the Hanar?

It would be a massive blow to galactic human population numbers, but it in no way would doom humanity. Hundreds of millions of humans across many colonies is a huge difference from hundreds of thousands of drell on one planet.

Modifié par Sheppard-Commander, 30 juin 2011 - 06:17 .

[Yeti13]

mauro2222 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Yeti13 wrote...

hmmm the only expendable race is Humanity, I will try my damnedest to save the rest

^ This. If I have to choose, humanity will be way down in my list, I don`t want to save something that doesn`t even represents me, mass effect humanity and our actual society are a shame.

He, I feel the same with my nation's society. Well, the major part of it (especially the politic's class<_<)
But in truth, we don't know a lot about ME human society. We only saw the Alliance and the spacial/colonial humans, which doesn't represent the majority of humans. We didn't see much of what is Eart society and governement in previous games (since the Alliance isn't the Eart government). We only know that poverty still exist in Earth, and not much more.

That's why I think they still are the same stupid undeveloped primates that we are today.

I think people get the wrong Idea that I hate Humans which isnt true, I will try to save all the races because "The Galaxy demands diversity"  Yet the Humans in ME are greedy, imperlistic, un-compromising, selfish, and just plain rude half the time. Sure there are exceptions (Shepard  hopefully being one of these) I enjoy inter-species cooperation not dominace, I can put myself into the aliens shoes and see what humanity has done since it joined the community. Aliens not only enabled us to explore space, but also saved us from our own stupidity. Even sided with us over the Batarians. They are not our enemies people! 

[gunswordfist]

Who said Earth has all the humans? There are millions of human colonists

[mauro2222]

Yeti13 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Yeti13 wrote...

hmmm the only expendable race is Humanity, I will try my damnedest to save the rest

^ This. If I have to choose, humanity will be way down in my list, I don`t want to save something that doesn`t even represents me, mass effect humanity and our actual society are a shame.

He, I feel the same with my nation's society. Well, the major part of it (especially the politic's class<_<)
But in truth, we don't know a lot about ME human society. We only saw the Alliance and the spacial/colonial humans, which doesn't represent the majority of humans. We didn't see much of what is Eart society and governement in previous games (since the Alliance isn't the Eart government). We only know that poverty still exist in Earth, and not much more.

That's why I think they still are the same stupid undeveloped primates that we are today.

I think people get the wrong Idea that I hate Humans which isnt true, I will try to save all the races because "The Galaxy demands diversity"  Yet the Humans in ME are greedy, imperlistic, un-compromising, selfish, and just plain rude half the time. Sure there are exceptions (Shepard  hopefully being one of these) I enjoy inter-species cooperation not dominace, I can put myself into the aliens shoes and see what humanity has done since it joined the community. Aliens not only enabled us to explore space, but also saved us from our own stupidity. Even sided with us over the Batarians. They are not our enemies people! 

I don`t like humans it is not that I hate them, I would like to help to change them.
The batarians are ignorant because of propaganda, their own goverments lies to them in order to keep them fearfull of the exterior so in that way it easier for them to maniputale the population with hate against others species and support the goverment in ridiculous campaings for its own interests, they are in simple terms the USA goverment, my country goverment, rounding all, they are politicians.

[Reever]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm not a fan of the word "expendable". Sacrifice, to me, is entirely dependent on the circumstances. And even then, I prefer to look at it as the last possible solution.

This.
Of course, not all of my Shepards think like that...

[CroGamer002]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Destroying Earth is basically dooming the human species to the role of servants to the other species, not unlike the drell.

What? How do you get to that conclusion? There are tens (if not hundreds) of millions of humans that arent on Earth. Elysium? Eden Prime? Bekenstein? Terra Nova? Thats just off the top of my head. Unlike the Drell, Humans have spread across the galaxy, and who really believes humans would ever accept being a pet species like the Drell are to the Hanar?

It would be a massive blow to galactic human population numbers, but it in no way would doom humanity. Hundreds of millions of humans across many colonies is a huge difference from hundreds of thousands of drell on one planet.

All those colonies depend on Alliance while Alliance depends on Earth's most powerful nations.

No Earth, no more of this nations.
No more of this nations means no more backing for Alliance.
Alliance can't then protect those colonies without being some sort of vassals for Council.