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[Kasai666]

I know I deal in "ifs". This is my opinion, not a fact. And while I agree that MP is becoming standard, I don't like it. Some games can benefit from it,while others can not. My main issue is that they are adding it now. They should have done it in #1 or not at all. Its a SP trilogy. It should stay that way. If they want to make a ME MMO or a dedicated online game, I have no issue and I would love to play it. They should just reconsider adding it so far into the series.

[Aggie Punbot]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There is demand for multiplayer, the hunger must be satisfied someday, you can only hope that it will taste good.

I for one am perfectly fine with multiplayer in a Mass Effect game so long as it is not in Mass Effect 3.

[Kasai666]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There is demand for multiplayer, the hunger must be satisfied someday, you can only hope that it will taste good.

I for one am perfectly fine with multiplayer in a Mass Effect game so long as it is not in Mass Effect 3.

Amen!

[Prince of Kemet]

Co-op...yes......multiplayer...(sound of a toilet flushing).

[GreenSoda]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention one thing: Confirmed NO MULTIPLAYER. They're talking about future games and/or spinoffs having it, but not this time

Info from the Game Informer mag. People really need to read the stickies.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 01 juillet 2011 - 07:22 .

[Kasai666]

GreenSoda wrote...

Oh yeah, forgot to mention one thing: Confirmed NO MULTIPLAYER. They're talking about future games and/or spinoffs having it, but not this time

Info from the Game Informer mag. People really need to read the stickies.

HA! I was right! I knew it was confirmed not to be in it!

[Element_Zero]

This topic has been discussed to death over and over again. In ME2 forums.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5856944 - 8 pages

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5713582/1 - 10 pages

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5776970  - 3 pages

Heres a few locked down ones and older ones too. . .

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5750364/1 - 3 pages - locked

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5706726 - 1 page

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5692007/1  - 11 pages <<< this one has a poll in it. . . 

Oh
wait let me check something. . . Oh yup there's still the resounding
NO. . . on the poll. . . 76% against , 14% maybe, 8% yes. . .

Dig dig dig. . I think I might have 1 or 2 more. . .

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5473552/1 - 2 pages

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5453693/1 - 7 pages - locked

Whew
that was fun. . . oh not all threads are locked down. . . . But a few
are . . .  And I'm not going to go back into the archives and pull up
anymore. . .

Ah yes and IGN's poll on the subject as well. . . . 
xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1139820p1.html

79 % against it . . . .  21 % for it. . . .

Ah finally I got them all together . . . at least the most recent ones anyway. . .  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie] *ponders* humm. . .

^^^From last posting 5 MONTHS AGO ^^^ Update: All the numbers / percentages remained the same though out. . . IGN's poll has a current sampling of about 34,400. . .

All threads remain active, unless there is the - locked behind them!

^^^AGAIN FROM MY POSTING 5 MONTHS AGO^^^ on the ME2 site: Time to update the numbers yet again for you MP peeps. . . .
Standby. . . Looks like IGN's poll has climbed to 34,484 thus far. . .
still with the same spread however 79% NO    21% YES and the numbers on the BW Poll . . . are 76% NO  14% Maybe  8% Yes  with a sampling of 627.

Also. . .  I would like to add my NO. . . to this tread. I would rather they pay their full attention to the story.




All of the above can be found in the links above. I did remove a few paragraphs to make things a bit smoother. I still stand by what I've said in those paragraphs as well. Those of you who continue to say this or that dosn't pull from resources really don't know how business work out there. ANYONE who is involved in creating and managing these things get paid somehow and it's from the products they sell. Infact the rapid increase in cost only tells me that they are using the sales they are gathering for other projects are not doing so well, course it also tells me there are a few other things going on too. Too bad too many fight over spoils these days instead of trying to create something better. And spoils is more than just money too but, property and notoriety (ego, popularity, and the like.)

Rather they seek investors to come with the upfront cash or not those investors who loaned the money expect to make their money back plus interest. It dosen't matter what system you go with people you better understand this unless your willing to accept slavery. Communism, Markism, Socialism, or Capitalism. . . People still expect somekind of payment for work being done unless slavery is involved and I don't know of any programming team in their right minds; willing to put together something as large as Mass Effect for free. So no matter how you cut it this is what happens out there.

Maybe a better way of putting it. Ask yourself are you willing to lead, manage, and or work a project 8 - 10 hours or more a day for no pay. If you said yes, you better start thinking about how your going to feed yourself, cloth yourself, have a roof over your head, rather or not your going to have a family, and even how your going to get to and from work. Also rather or not you still live with your folks or not.

LATEST UPDATE as of this posting 7/1/2011: IGN's Poll current sampling of 42,998. . .  How many against? about 78% or 33,568 votes NO   How many for? about 22% or 9430 votes YES

Now lets see if the BW Poll changed at all. . . Sampling stands at 681
76% with 515 votes NO; 15% or 99 voteseither way / undecided; and finally 9% with 61 votes YES

I still think the maximizing the story would be the way to go with the game, cleaning out as many bugs as possible, and enhanceing play would be the way to go with ME3. After all the storyline has been always about Shepard and like it or not that is what is selling the game out there.

If latter you guys want still want MP, I don't think the francise is going to pass away anytime soon. Maybe they can put their heads together and pull out a ME style muliple protagonist style game. It would better to play for you MP folks since enhancing the game with a shared story. More than likely BioWare has come up with some new ideas from their other projects they have on the horizon. I'm sure it will have at least some of those features you folks were asking for. I know some of you wanted multiple races, factions, different maps, rulesets, as well as other things.

My fear with MP has allways been the cutting of the game's story time, additional bugs I get to put up with, nonfluidity with the story, or little to no story at all with in the game. And it has been  proven with every game manufacturer I've seen out there, since somewhere somebody in the chain decides the things I believe to be important just are not anymore with MP installed. Plus with my prior experience on other MP it's a feature I don't want to play or even pay for. And yes folks I've played both ME and ME 2 well over 15 times though now. ME 2 probabily a tad more just seeking pictures to capture and share with folks on the forums here. I know I ran though ME2 almost 10 more playthoughs (I think it was 7 times) trying to capture that right expression from my character. Strangly enough I do plan another play though but for fun and not to do picture captures.

I opened a picture site in mid Feburary and stopped adding photos to it in late March. But my goal with the site was so I could post my creations here on the ME 2 forums in a larger size because some of the forum members asked. Since that time those 64 pictures have been looked at 44,700 times by various folks to date. I'm sure there are others out there that could tell you similar stories. What dose that tell me? The game is very popular out there. I'm sure there will be a few more games based in the Mass Effect universe to come. Congrats BioWare.

Sorry for the long post and my thanks to those patient enough to read though it all.
Good luck out there,
-EZ

[Dexi]

/insert Chief voice

omg multeeplayah but wut is dis? r33l RPG dun haev mult33plair...
i say its str3amlind, we wantz real RPG.
wut if bcuz we getz mooltypleir Shephurd doeznt say "I shud go" as man33 timez as in ME2... *sadface*
must b33 EA! damnz dem!


That's what I read every time in threads like this.

[medcsu]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...
Because I want EVERY. SINGLE. RESOURCE. Put into the SP. I didnt pay 80$ for a Gears clone. I payed it for the SP in my favorite game series. 

Please, I beg you to get your facts straight. It was even mentioned by BioWare that resources do not work like that. It is obvious that Mass Effect 3 is a single player game at first, otherwise it would make no sense.

Few years back some people were making a comotion about DLC and how they will never buy them and how they are evil and every developer who makes DLC has sold his soul to the corporate devil. Truly evil, stay away or the multiplayer will capture your soul. Same thing was going on when World of Warcraft hit, part of the Warcraft fanbase hated the concept of MMO... in the long run - WoW was the right thing to do.

Yes, I'm sure the 12 year olds out there agree that WoW was the right thing to do.

Multiplayer doesnt fit into the ME series. It's a bad idea and I agree with the other poster that stated he wants every possible resource going into the SP. This is the finale of the trilogy.

[Lunatic LK47]

Resident Evil 5, F.E.A.R. 3 and any co-op capable game are the living proof needed to prove that the multiplayer-focus could have been better used for single-player. (Like, I don't know, making sure the squad A.I. works properly instead of making multiplayer mandatory?)

[Kandid001]

Ah yes, "multiplayer", we've dismissed that claim.

[xSTONEYx187x]

It's obvious there will be some sort of multi-player, what EA want, EA get, regardless of what Casey, Ray and Greg think.

Let's just hope it doesn't compromise the single player.

[aragfore03]

Chris used to put this to rest by saying that (insert game here) is a single player game. Haven't seen him say that.

[charmingcharlie]

GreenSoda wrote...  Info from the Game Informer mag. People really need to read the stickies.

People really need to READ the articles before saying "Game Informer said that there would be no multiplayer".  The article never for one moment suggested that.  So yet again here is EXACTLY what Game Informer said :-

Casey Hudson in Game Informer .........
We haven't YET come up with a way to do that, so we don't have anything to announce at this time.  But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company"

I would hardly call that a "No Multiplayer in ME 3" statement.

[Vamp44]

Gotta love BSN....

[javierabegazo]

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

[amcnow]

javierabegazo wrote...

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

Which, unfortunately, is true.  Developers can always change their minds during development.  New romances is one such example.

Modifié par amcnow, 01 juillet 2011 - 01:25 .

[amcnow]

Double post.  

Modifié par amcnow, 01 juillet 2011 - 01:25 .

[javierabegazo]

amcnow wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

Which, unfortunately, is true.  Developers can always change their minds during development.  S/S romances is one such example.

And Mass Effect 3 being about Shepard is another. There's always the endless "happy" road for the pessimist, or for anyone who sees what they want to.

[amcnow]

javierabegazo wrote...

amcnow wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

Which, unfortunately, is true.  Developers can always change their minds during development.  S/S romances is one such example.

And Mass Effect 3 being about Shepard is another. There's always the endless "happy" road for the pessimist, or for anyone who sees what they want to.

This is exactly why I generally reserve judgment until the game is actually shipped.  There's no point in raging over something which has yet to come out.

[Kusy]

xSTONEYx187x wrote...

It's obvious there will be some sort of multi-player, what EA want, EA get, regardless of what Casey, Ray and Greg think.

Let's just hope it doesn't compromise the single player.

Point missed bro. Ray and Greg are EA.

[charmingcharlie]

javierabegazo wrote...

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

If Casey (or anyone from Bioware) were to say that then I would take it as confirmation that MP is not in Mass Effect 3.  However Bioware has not said that have they ?  I have yet to see a SINGLE statement from Bioware that rules out MP.  Whenever they are asked about MP they give a very ambiguous "we are concentrating on making the single player game awesome" ........ erm yeah great but that wasn't what we asked.

Now you have to wonder why are they being so "vague" and ambiguous about answering a simple question ?  I understand as a mod you must get tired of these threads.  But these could stop tomorrow if Bioware would only get off the fence and tell us one way or another about the situation with MP in Mass Effect 3.

[BloodyTalon]

Didn't Dragon age 2 have the same rumors?

-kicks a dead horse and giggles-

And think Me 2 did at one point also.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

ETermin wrote...

Scudman_Slayer wrote...

well i have no real opinion on it as long as it doesn't make the campaign short as all hell (MW,MW2,BLACK OPS)

Those games have to focus on the multiplayer in order to last the year in between releases of IW and Treyarch. The campaign usually comes second as the general population plays them for the multiplayer.

You're forgetting that the COD franchise and many others FPS games (especially on the consoles) weren't  originally MP heavy. That only happened recently in the gaming industry. The concern is that this growing trend on sacrificing SP for MP might take hold in other genres and that is a real concern. I fail to see why so many people don't get that.

[Aggie Punbot]

charmingcharlie wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Even if Casey Hudson came out with a video saying "Mass Effect 3 will ship as a Single Player Game", I'm sure there would be no shortage of forumites who would shout to no end "Nothing's confirmed until the game is shipped!"

If Casey (or anyone from Bioware) were to say that then I would take it as confirmation that MP is not in Mass Effect 3.  However Bioware has not said that have they ?  I have yet to see a SINGLE statement from Bioware that rules out MP.  Whenever they are asked about MP they give a very ambiguous "we are concentrating on making the single player game awesome" ........ erm yeah great but that wasn't what we asked.

Now you have to wonder why are they being so "vague" and ambiguous about answering a simple question ?  I understand as a mod you must get tired of these threads.  But these could stop tomorrow if Bioware would only get off the fence and tell us one way or another about the situation with MP in Mass Effect 3.

THIS X 100,000! A firm answer to the question would be formed like this:

"Will there be multiplayer in Mass Effect?"
"Yes."  OR  "No."

A vague and not definitive answer to the question would be formed like this:

"Will there be multiplayer in Mass Effect?"
"We are concentrating on single player."

As you can clearly see, the second answer does not actually answer the question. The fact that Casey Hudson and Co. refuse to give a straight answer is the reason that this "rumor" keeps cropping up and will continue to do so until they choose to give a straight answer.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 01 juillet 2011 - 11:06 .