I would definitely have to say Garrus, possibly tied with Miranda.
If Shepard was incapacitated, which squadmate would be best to lead?
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stonbw1
, juil. 01 2011 02:34
#176
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 11:58
#177
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 12:07
EDI.
#178
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 12:58
Garrus did good job in his recruitment mission. When we first meet him, he keeps his head cool and is analytic in situation, that looks hopeless. Then he gives orders to Shepard and does good job telling go there, come here or do that.
#179
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 01:20
So, I would loooooove to have a mission in ME3 a la KOTOR 1 where you broke Revan out of jail with one of the party members (mine usually Canderous or HK-47
) .... however, the best time for a mission like that would be at the trial... and we know Shepard is with Anderson from the trailers... so it probably won't happen. (I know the OP was about if shepard died... but I'm going with him being incapacitated as that would make more sense)
Anyway... I'd go with Garrus as the leader... probably in this order:
Garrus - Contrary to some naysayers... he DIDN'T get his entire squad killed... he was betrayed by Sidonis and I doubt he would have a problem with betrayal with Shepard's current squad. With his squad on Omega he was tearing three separate groups of mercs a new one with a very small squad.
Jacob - Oddly enough, I'd choose Jacob as a leader. A member of the alliance and was part of the Corsairs (supposedly the alliance's equivalent of Spectres and STG) so he knows squad tactics and is a veteran in combat. He also makes a good leader on the SM.
VS - Contrary to popular belief neither of them is a "xenophobe" and would have no trouble working with/leading aliens against the reapers forces. They have been made a spectre and are both experienced with combat and squad tactics due to being with the alliance.
Mordin - Former STG member and is a genius.
Miranda - Very good tactical mind according to the bonuses she gives the squad in ME2 when she's in the party. She also is a good choice to lead in the SM. Although, I think she's more of a desk general than an actual leader. I think she'd have trouble making the right choices, but she would still get the job done in the end.
Zaeed - Would be my last choice of people capable to lead as... 1. You know that he would eventually stop the reapers as he ALWAYS makes it out alive (lol) and 2. You know everyone on the squad but him will die.
Everyone else I don't think would make a good leader.
Wrex - I'd rather have him continue to rally the Krogan and have them back us up. Though, I guess uniting the Krogan would make him a good leader by default. lol
Grunt - Too young and inexperienced. More of a follower and walking battering ram.
Thane - An assassin used to working alone.
Tali - Too young and naive. She doesn't command respect when in the leadership role. Yes, it's not exactly her fault that her whole squad dies on Freedom's Progress, but her troops didn't respect her, thus not following her orders.
Legion - A geth. I'm not sure everyone would trust him.
Jack - Definitely not the leader type. Too crazy, people may not trust her.
Samara - She has been working alone for centuries.
Liara - Also used to working alone as a scientist and has been alone as the SB.
Kasumi - A thief, not sure she would have everyone's trust and she's also used to working on her on or in a team of two on heists.
I probably forgot someone. lol
Anyway... I'd go with Garrus as the leader... probably in this order:
Garrus - Contrary to some naysayers... he DIDN'T get his entire squad killed... he was betrayed by Sidonis and I doubt he would have a problem with betrayal with Shepard's current squad. With his squad on Omega he was tearing three separate groups of mercs a new one with a very small squad.
Jacob - Oddly enough, I'd choose Jacob as a leader. A member of the alliance and was part of the Corsairs (supposedly the alliance's equivalent of Spectres and STG) so he knows squad tactics and is a veteran in combat. He also makes a good leader on the SM.
VS - Contrary to popular belief neither of them is a "xenophobe" and would have no trouble working with/leading aliens against the reapers forces. They have been made a spectre and are both experienced with combat and squad tactics due to being with the alliance.
Mordin - Former STG member and is a genius.
Miranda - Very good tactical mind according to the bonuses she gives the squad in ME2 when she's in the party. She also is a good choice to lead in the SM. Although, I think she's more of a desk general than an actual leader. I think she'd have trouble making the right choices, but she would still get the job done in the end.
Zaeed - Would be my last choice of people capable to lead as... 1. You know that he would eventually stop the reapers as he ALWAYS makes it out alive (lol) and 2. You know everyone on the squad but him will die.
Everyone else I don't think would make a good leader.
Wrex - I'd rather have him continue to rally the Krogan and have them back us up. Though, I guess uniting the Krogan would make him a good leader by default. lol
Grunt - Too young and inexperienced. More of a follower and walking battering ram.
Thane - An assassin used to working alone.
Tali - Too young and naive. She doesn't command respect when in the leadership role. Yes, it's not exactly her fault that her whole squad dies on Freedom's Progress, but her troops didn't respect her, thus not following her orders.
Legion - A geth. I'm not sure everyone would trust him.
Jack - Definitely not the leader type. Too crazy, people may not trust her.
Samara - She has been working alone for centuries.
Liara - Also used to working alone as a scientist and has been alone as the SB.
Kasumi - A thief, not sure she would have everyone's trust and she's also used to working on her on or in a team of two on heists.
I probably forgot someone. lol
Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 03 juillet 2011 - 01:23 .
#180
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 01:58
Paragade shep:
Garrus: Good heart, good soldier and tactition as well as being charasmatic and experienced enough to make a good leader.
Kaiden/Jacob: level headed and some leadership experience.
Wrex: Commands respect like no one else (except shepard), see's the big picture, awesome fighter.
Miranda: gets the job done, big picture>morals, experienced leader.
Ashley: commands respect and huge amount of determination.
Garrus: Good heart, good soldier and tactition as well as being charasmatic and experienced enough to make a good leader.
Kaiden/Jacob: level headed and some leadership experience.
Wrex: Commands respect like no one else (except shepard), see's the big picture, awesome fighter.
Miranda: gets the job done, big picture>morals, experienced leader.
Ashley: commands respect and huge amount of determination.
#181
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:01
According the the Shadow Broker: Garrus.
He just needs to get out of Shepard's shadow.
He just needs to get out of Shepard's shadow.
#182
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:06
Ashley: Her record as a senior NCO proves her leadership ability. In RL, senior NCOs are often the leader, implementing the big plans of the brass.
#183
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:11
I think whether or not Wrex would be a good leader depends on your priorities. I have no doubt he'd get the job done, I have no doubt he'd command respect, but in my opinion he would end up with far more casualties in the process than any of the others with leadership experience. He'd be lucky to have any team left by the end.
#184
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:13
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Modifié par Rulid, 03 juillet 2011 - 03:52 .
#185
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:13
Garrus or pre-ME2 Kaidan.
#186
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:24
Garrus and Miranda, get stuff done.
Modifié par Spacelion, 03 juillet 2011 - 02:25 .
#187
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 02:46
Garrus and Kaiden for reasons already stated.
Kaiden would be the best overall leader. Everytime you brought him along in ME1 his character always echoed the wise, paragon choice if both were compatible. If not he would advise the cautious route. Not to mention he's a powerful biotic (second to a biotic Shepard) and a skilled tech.
If Shep died at the end of ME2. I could see Kaiden (Paragon) or Ashley (Paragade) taking up Shepard's mantle with Joker and Liara. Garrus can't because he's dead in that situation.
Kaiden would be the best overall leader. Everytime you brought him along in ME1 his character always echoed the wise, paragon choice if both were compatible. If not he would advise the cautious route. Not to mention he's a powerful biotic (second to a biotic Shepard) and a skilled tech.
If Shep died at the end of ME2. I could see Kaiden (Paragon) or Ashley (Paragade) taking up Shepard's mantle with Joker and Liara. Garrus can't because he's dead in that situation.
#188
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 05:00
It really depends on the situation. Mordin would be the most successful at planning the mission and dealing with tactics, but he would have difficulty balancing all the different personalities. If it were a mission where the other characters demons could be a problem, I'd either go with Garrus or Jacob, Garrus because of his confidence and ability to help his teamates focus, and Jacob because he has a stabalizing personality and is a calming presence. The best case scenario would be a combination of Mordin and Garrus/Jacob, where obviously Mordin would do the planning and Garrus/Jacob the execution
#189
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 05:22
First choice: Garrus.
Second choice: Miranda.
Second choice: Miranda.
#190
Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 05:30
Hey, we get it, you dislike Garrus. Insulting everybody who likes him by claiming they only like him because he's "badass" and "an alien" and doesn't care about his character just makes you look stuck up. You seem to have a very negative view of Garrus fans, and a very shallow one.Siansonea II wrote...
Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...
Siansonea II wrote...
Ugh, I can't believe anyone thinks GARRUS is a good leader. Hey Garrus, look over there! *guns down rest of team*
I'll stick with loyal, dependable, non-badassssss folks like Kaidan, Ashley, and Jacob. Liara maybe.
Wait...Ashley...and Jacob? When Ashley was encountered she had lost her squad and colony to geth and when Jacob is encountered (the head of security) he is hiding, alone behind a rail after losing control of his entire space station. If your reason for not picking Garrus is because he lost his team on Omega, then I'm not sure you can support Ashley or Jacob.
At least Garrus only lost a squad, and that was because one of it's members was manipulated by his enemies.
Let's be real here. People are picking Garrus because Garrus is a badassss! character — not because he's actually a good leader in any sense. After all, we haven't actually seen him do anything besides be a sniper, gripe about C-Sec, gripe about Sidonis, and brag about "reach and flexibility". If Garrus was an ordinary human, he would not be as universally lauded as he is, because there's just not a whole lot there. Garrus is one of the most overrated characters in the entire series as far as I'm concerned. Dude, how about writing some auto-calibration software already? But because he "looks cool" and "sounds cool", he's everybody's "bro".
On to your content iteself...no, people really aren't picking Garrus because he's badass. The only squadmate to have lead a squad sucessfully (coughtali) and to have really inspired loyalty similarly to Shepard in any way is Garrus. The two characters have quite a bit in common, as reflected by the student-mentor role between the two, so it's not only natural but also logical for people to vote for Garrus compared to other characters who are being picked because they're "level headed."
Your reasoning is shallow and based entirely on the fact you dislike Garrus opposed to any kind of rational judgement of leadership ability. Ironic you say people only pick Garrus because they like him when you only seem to have not picked him as you dislike him. Fact is, Kaidan, Ashley and Jacob show no authority or leadership at any time. Jacob can lead the team in the SM I suppose, but that is the only backing you have for those choices.Siansonea II wrote...
Ugh, I can't believe anyone thinks GARRUS is a good leader. Hey Garrus, look over there! *guns down rest of team*
I'll stick with loyal, dependable, non-badassssss folks like Kaidan, Ashley, and Jacob. Liara maybe.
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My personal pick would either be Garrus, Miranda, Wrex or Liara. On a squad level Garrus is a fairly obvious pick, as is Miranda, but in terms of resources Wrex and Liara have a lot, and both also have past experience with fellow squadmembers.
#191
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Posté 03 juillet 2011 - 05:45
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Garrus, Wrex or Ashley





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