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Is soldier really useless in Mass Effect 3?


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#101
atheelogos

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Psearo wrote...

Soldier will be the only one who can equip more than two weapons at once.

More than three weapons not two

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atheelogos wrote...

Psearo wrote...

Soldier will be the only one who can equip more than two weapons at once.

More than three weapons not two


is that including the heavy weapon?

and thanks guys for responding, i made this thread out of panic that my favorite class would be bad :blush:

Modifié par sickserb, 02 juillet 2011 - 05:17 .


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Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

IDK how the reason stated by the OP makes the Soldier useless in ME3.


What are you missing?  OP states  he likes only using the Soldier class due to the Assault Rifle.  Now everyone gets to use said Assault Rifle.  It is comprable to everybody getting "Sentinel Armor" via Fortification or Geth Shield Boost, halfway through the game. 


Everyone got to use the Assault Rifle in ME2.


You mean ME1 granted you needed high end upgrades to be good with it, In ME2 some characters could pick up the assault rifle as a bonus due to the collector ship.  Still point stands, all classes getting to use AR from the begging is moderatly janky.  

Edit:Robarcool you are doing it wrong plenty of folks own with vanguards on insantiy, you just have to embrace the inherint agressiveness of the class. 

Modifié par VegasVance, 02 juillet 2011 - 05:34 .


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VegasVance wrote...

JayhartRIC wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

IDK how the reason stated by the OP makes the Soldier useless in ME3.


What are you missing?  OP states  he likes only using the Soldier class due to the Assault Rifle.  Now everyone gets to use said Assault Rifle.  It is comprable to everybody getting "Sentinel Armor" via Fortification or Geth Shield Boost, halfway through the game. 


Everyone got to use the Assault Rifle in ME2.


You mean ME1 granted you needed high end upgrades to be good with it, In ME2 some characters could pick up the assault rifle as a bonus due to the collector ship.  Still point stands, all classes getting to use AR from the begging is moderatly janky.  

Edit:Robarcool you are doing it wrong plenty of folks own with vanguards on insantiy, you just have to embrace the inherint agressiveness of the class. 


Yeah, everyone getting the AR might take a little shine from the soldier but please, comparing time dilation and Heavy charge to Adrenaline Rush?, There's a reason why it's the mos powerful class and that's Adrenaline Rush, as you might know, time dilation isn't it's only effect, it grants a weapon damage bonus of 100 - 140%, has a longer duration than Heavy Charge and the infiltrator's time dilation (that only works on snipers), while it's two evolutions are useful unlike charge.

So don't dismiss adrenaline rush in anyway, some people even say it's broken.

BTW yes, the first class i played was a Vanguard (in ME, and ME2) they have this incredible aggresion factor that you have to master in order to really have fun on insanity (charging a scion and shotgunin' them to death never gets old)

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My soldier in ME2 was unstoppable for me with the collector's base shotgun (forgot the name), hardened rush, and fortification.

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Juha81FIN wrote...

Soldier is the only class that can have Revenant AR, that counts at least something.

WRONG!
All classes will be able to equip the Revenant.   Posted Image

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sickserb wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Psearo wrote...

Soldier will be the only one who can equip more than two weapons at once.

More than three weapons not two


is that including the heavy weapon?

and thanks guys for responding, i made this thread out of panic that my favorite class would be bad :blush:

I think its three in addition to the heavy weapon.

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Yea like some guy said Engineer is the most useless class. Soldier means your basically going be like Doom and have all sorts of weapons. Everything else is going to be like Today's shooters where you can only have two or three weapons available.

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Is the Revanant really better than the Maddock? Because if it is, WOW, since the Maddock is a real nail driver.

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Pepper4 wrote...

Juha81FIN wrote...

Soldier is the only class that can have Revenant AR, that counts at least something.

WRONG!
All classes will be able to equip the Revenant.   Posted Image



are you sure about this?

becasue thatd be awesome!

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medcsu wrote...

Is the Revanant really better than the Maddock? Because if it is, WOW, since the Maddock is a real nail driver.


It's better only from shotgun range, and against husks, Plus the Mattock is bugged on AR.

The Mattock is easily over the Revenant.

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How can we answer OP question without ever have played Me3?

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well the benefits of being a soldier in ME3 is that the soldier can carry every single weapon not just two or whatever it was...

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I only need and use two-three weapons anyway, so...eh. Soldier can stay on the bench of blandness.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

I only need and use two-three weapons anyway, so...eh. Soldier can stay on the bench of blandness.


I suppose your melee attack would be your sharp tongue?

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What's with this anti-soldier sentiment? Bland? Boring?

Is this because, shooters=evil again?

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HTTP 404 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I only need and use two-three weapons anyway, so...eh. Soldier can stay on the bench of blandness.


I suppose your melee attack would be your sharp tongue?

Posted Image


Well, that is the deadliest weapon of all!

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sevach wrote...

What's with this anti-soldier sentiment? Bland? Boring?

Is this because, shooters=evil again?


I know! Anyone who puts down soldiers is putting Ashley down!! :o:o

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sevach wrote...

What's with this anti-soldier sentiment? Bland? Boring?

Is this because, shooters=evil again?


No, it's because shooting is all the Soldier can do. And that's what I find bland and boring.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 03 juillet 2011 - 12:45 .


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I know that i find a lot more boring to stay behind cover spamming powers, than actually getting out there and fighting Rambo style lol.

And, well, they are being given grenades (the old school method of crowd control B)) and an big improvement to concussive shot.

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To quote wrex fighting the unknown killing it with big guns. lol soldiers ftw

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Soldier is going to be totally worthless. Make sure you don't play it or all the fun will be sucked out of you forever.

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medcsu wrote...

Enhancement Shamans are worthless in long raid encounters. We have cleared everything hard mode and always ask our shaman to go elemental. Good burst damage but over time, they simply dont come anywhere close to keeping up (even if the shaman is top notch). Hell, even our guild (Vodka) wont touch them any longer because they simply are worthless as it stands.


Yep, well if were were that useless, I imagine they'd be happy to find an elemental replacement or insist that I switch specs. They haven't. On our 25-mans, I've been in the top 10 and/or at the very least beaten my elemental guildie depending on the fight. I was also in our 10-man that cleared Throne of the Four Winds this week. *shrug* Maybe it would be different if we were doing hard-mode, but hey, my services are apparently still wanted.

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Nashiktal wrote...

*snips most of that*

Also I do not mean to sound whiney, I love soldiers don't get me wrong. I just want the soldier to have something to help them standout from the crowd, and it seems to be really hard to do that.


No offense here, but this tihng about soldiers suddenly being useless because other classes can do <x>  is exactly like what happens in WoW forums. Trust me, I get what he was saying. It's kind of like how shamans used to whinge about druids being able to instantly shapeshift, escape from poly, root people and generally be all-around better than us (to continue using a WoW analogy here). The point is that just because <x> class gets to do something new and fancy does not mean that your very own class is somehow diminished. After years and years of seeing that kind of thing, I'm basically of the opinion that you need to get over it and focus on what your class can do. It's not as if vanguards suddenly have Adrenaline Rush, etc. Soldiers have their own strengths and utility.

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sevach wrote...

I know that i find a lot more boring to stay behind cover spamming powers, than actually getting out there and fighting Rambo style lol.

And, well, they are being given grenades (the old school method of crowd control B)) and an big improvement to concussive shot.



It's funny, because I can do that way more effectively as the Sentinel.

And the Rambo BS with the dick compensating machine gun gets boring beyond comprehension after the tenth hour. Because all you do is: Activate Adrenaline Rush. Shoot everything until it's dead. Rinse and repeat throughout the whole damn game. Wow, that was fun, huh?