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mass effect 2 took the number one spot on IGN's top 100 modern games


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rft wrote...

Way to copy my thread -.- I already made this thread in the Mass Effect general discussion fourm. Oh well.


I was actually going to make a thread on this earlier in here, but then I figured it would make more sense for it to be in the general Mass Effect forum as it wasn't strictly ME3 related only to see that you had beat me to it. I never check anything but the Mass Effect 3 forums nowadays, and I'm sure there are more people like me so I don't a problem with having a different thread in each one.

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TheCrakFox wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

MW2 #14
The Witcher 2 only #75
Splinter Cell conviction is on the list and they're serious.

Yeah, **** this.I rarely agree with anything IGN puts out anyway. Come back when Giantbomb, GI or Destructoid have something like this.

Modern Warfare 2 isn't even on there, never mind at number 14...


Opps it was MW and it was nineteen. I got it and HaaH ReeR flipped.

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I wish I didn't have to click to see the next game every time... is there a list somewhere? ._.

Don't think ME2 should've won number 1, though. Top ten, sure.

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emanziboy wrote...

Not really. A review is just one person's opinion, while this list was put together by several people. People also put to much emphasis on the exact score when sometimes the reviewer has to give out a number arbitrarily. Really, what's the difference between a 9.6 and a 9.3? You can't really describe how much better 9.6 is than 9.3, but people will point out is that Game A is .3 higher than Game B. That's the reason IGN only grades on .5 intervals now (btw ME2 was graded before this change and Portal 2 was graded after, so you can't really compare them exactly anyway. How would ME2 be graded under the new rules?), and some sites try different ways to grade games, e.g. 1up's ABC grading. And how people can feel about a game can chage between when they first play it and how they feels months later.

This is why I don't put too much emphasis on exact scores when deciding which games are better. Of course, I feel the same way about numbered rankings for mush of the same reasons, but hey, they're fun to read.


I absolutely agree.

Also, reviews and scores are, first and foremost, supposed to indicate game's quality with respect to its competitors, i.e. games that belong to the same genre, are released on the same platform and around the same time. Only then one is supposed to use and argue about the accurate scores.

But when it comes to comparison of different games published in different years, such arguing does not make much sense and most reviewing policies (e.g. Gamespot has very nicely wtritten rules) would discourage people from relying on accurate numbers / percentages.

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half of ME2 fans like ME1 better.

IGN must be getting alot of money from bioware for putting it at the top spot. i see no other reason for ME2 being the best game ever.

thatd be like the dark night being considered the best movie ever.

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100% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Just because YOU think ME1 was a better game does not mean it was. And by extension because I thought ME2 was a better game does not make it so. I've never seen any evidence that anywhere close to half of all ME2 fans thought ME1 was better.

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I think we all know Mass Effect1 is a once in a lifetime experience. You can only have your first kiss once.

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The Spamming Troll wrote...

half of ME2 fans like ME1 better.

IGN must be getting alot of money from bioware for putting it at the top spot. i see no other reason for ME2 being the best game ever.

thatd be like the dark night being considered the best movie ever.


Or, you know, it's a subjective opinion. My subjective opinion is that Minecraft, Witcher 2, Portal, Portal 2, Devil Survivor and several other games are all better, and the New York Times probably agrees with me on at least one of those, but I don't fault IGN for having a different ranking. I'm too lazy to click through their entire list, but I'd imagine they have all of those (except for Devil Survivor because its... ewww... a JRPG!) on their list somewhere.

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well to me it means IGN sucks at doing its job.

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Not surprising at all. IGN has always loved Mass Effect.

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The Spamming Troll wrote...

well to me it means IGN sucks at doing its job.


A reviewer having a different opinion than you means they suck at their job? Hardly.

A good reviewer is one who explains clearly why they like or dislike a movie or game so I can decide how much weight to give their opinion.

If Ebert hates a movie because he thinks it doesn't have enough social commentary in it and I don't care if a movie has deep social commentary then I can take that bias into account. That is the mark of a good reviewer.

If disagreeing with you means someone sucks then 99.9% of people must suck in some regard. But I understand your opinion. As I said earlier, clearly everyone who disagrees with me is a moron.

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nah, ME2 isnt the best modern game. its not even the best in its own series.

thats not opinion. its science.

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Congrats to Mass Effect 2 then, tbh there were a few more games I would like to be in the countdown but they had a "only 1 game from each franchise" rule which I pretty much agree on xD.

It would've been nice to have counter-strike be mentioned though xP heheheh

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I don't know about much... but for me, Mass Effect 2 was easily the greatest game of this generation. Oblivion would be up there 2.

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jollyorigins wrote...

BlahDog wrote...

I totally expected it to be #1, IGN loves Mass Effect with a passion.


IGN are worse than tali-mancers with Mass Effect 2, they talk about it like it's the greatest game ever created and that there isn't a single flaw about anything. I am not surprised they put ME2 as #1.

Edit: I realise I will most likely get flamed for this, it's just my opinion however, agree or not, do what you wish. I'm not hating on Mass Effect 2 because I like Mass Effect 2, just disliking how IGN idolises it without acknowledging it's problems and flaws etc.


I generally don't believe anything IGN says period. One game they will cruxify for being too short and then another game they will be all over it calling it amazing even though its 5 hours long. They also like to have people reviewing games that hate the genre they are reviewing.

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The Spamming Troll wrote...

half of ME2 fans like ME1 better.


Where is this non-existent half you speak of?

IGN must be getting alot of money from bioware for putting it at the top spot. i see no other reason for ME2 being the best game ever.


Ign paid me nothing. I'd still rate Mass Effect 2 in the top 4, beaten only by Portal 2, KotOR, and Ocarina of TIme.

thatd be like the dark night being considered the best movie ever.


I fail to see why someone should not be allowed to think this. You disliking the opinion does not mean someone else cannot have it. The Dark Knight is a fantastic movie, I can easily see someone considering it the best ever made.

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Hmm.

They list ME2 as #1 but don't even include the original anywhere on the list at all. Really? (Unless of course they listed it as a way of representing the series in culmination, which I'm very inclined to agree with.) Half the reason ME2 is as good as it is because your decisions carry over. As a standalone game ME2 is good, but not great. And I'm baffled new players could even get into the series. Although I suspect many of ME2's gameplay changes were to pull in a new audience who enjoy certain... things.

ME2 is like frosting on a cake. ME1 is the cake. You may like the frosting more, heck you may even be content to just eat frosting. But most would agree cake is better with frosting even if the cake isn't the best tasting one.

I'm not quite sure if I'd put the Mass Effect Series as the #1, but it certainly is deserving of being in the top ten. For the most part this is a pretty solid list though I take some issue with the ranking themselves. (Mostly just glad they included Shogun 2 and only listed CoD 4. I give them even more props for not including Movie Gear Solid 4.)

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Bluko wrote...

Hmm.

They list ME2 as #1 but don't even include the original anywhere on the list at all. Really? (Unless of course they listed it as a way of representing the series in culmination, which I'm very inclined to agree with.) Half the reason ME2 is as good as it is because your decisions carry over. As a standalone game ME2 is good, but not great. And I'm baffled new players could even get into the series. Although I suspect many of ME2's gameplay changes were to pull in a new audience who enjoy certain... things.

ME2 is like frosting on a cake. ME1 is the cake. You may like the frosting more, heck you may even be content to just eat frosting. But most would agree cake is better with frosting even if the cake isn't the best tasting one.

I'm not quite sure if I'd put the Mass Effect Series as the #1, but it certainly is deserving of being in the top ten. For the most part this is a pretty solid list though I take some issue with the ranking themselves. (Mostly just glad they included Shogun 2 and only listed CoD 4. I give them even more props for not including Movie Gear Solid 4.)


Personally, my bigger issue is that they chose to place Dragon Age: Origins at # 90. There certainly are better games out there, but some of the ones they chose I found disappointing. But then, that's inevitable considering how opinions can differ. Image IPB

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ME2 is way better than bioshock. And everytime I talked to someone in fallout 3 I almost fell asleep.

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They said it, it's not the Best rated or the greatest accomplishment, it's the game they find the most compelling. And as a gamer who played 14 hours nonstop to Mass Effect 2 (which is as of now only equalled by my playing of Mass Effect 1) I approved this choice. Only 5-7 games made me played over 8 hours non-stop, most of them are in the top 20:

Mass Effect (both of them)
Batman Arkham Asylum
Fallout 3
Elder Scroll: Oblivion
Bioshock
Dragon Age Origin

This is a good list. Stop 'female dog'-ing about it!

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aksoileau wrote...

ME2 is way better than bioshock. And everytime I talked to someone in fallout 3 I almost fell asleep.

fallout 3 was boring? that is unfortunate for you but that game was far more enjoyable and  challenging then me2. it was a real rpg. me2 is more of a shooter then an rpg. :?

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I have to agree with MajorStranger. It should be based not on which games are most popular or has the biggest budget, but which games you can keep enjoying for hours at a time over and over again. Both ME1 and ME2 are games that I can play over and over again, and still have fun doing it. Most other games do not have that effect on me.

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I like Bethesda games but the characterizations are terrible. Bioware is tops in that department, but skyrim looks to be fixing some of that.

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Polka14 wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

ME2 is way better than bioshock. And everytime I talked to someone in fallout 3 I almost fell asleep.

fallout 3 was boring? that is unfortunate for you but that game was far more enjoyable and  challenging then me2. it was a real rpg. me2 is more of a shooter then an rpg. :?

What does that prove? RPGs are not the pinacle of gaming, despite what alot of people on this site would have you think.

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I don't know. from what I have read some people have criticized the character animations pretty harshly.