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[Prenski20]

So you guys are like the best at everything you do, right?

Modifié par Prenski20, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:27 .

[flem1]

Seraphael wrote...

My guess is that you just have no clue as to how you use your mages properly.

This.

I bet you've given neither mage Cone of Cold, even though Morrigan is one point away.  Or Force Field.

[dearlyblvd]

edited.

Modifié par dearlyblvd, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:30 .

[Sinfulvannila]

What's your party setup and your general plan of attack?

[MarloMarlo]

Prenski20 wrote...

I honestly don't know what's up my tanks get hammered if they have more than one enemy on them.
My setup is Sten, Alistair, Morrigan and my char (mage), even with 2 tanks my group gets killed fairly quickly. I also issue seperate attacks for each one of my chars. I pause play.

Have Alistair taunt everyone and then have Morrigan cast Force Field on him. Then Cone of Cold everyone around him and cast Stone Fist or Crushing Prison on the Frozen Targets or just have Stein use his on-command crit abilities for shatter combos.

If your mages don't have Cone of Cold or Force Field for some reason, then tell us what they do have instead.

[Prenski20]

Sinfulvannila wrote...

What's your party setup and your general plan of attack?

Sten, Alistair, Morrigan and my mage.

I normally try to CC the melee attackers and go for the ranged ones after the melees are dead..

[LordFess]

From what I understand thats a pretty tough area......I purposely have not gone there yet because of a tip I got from someone at Bioware. I am level 10 almost 11 and am considering going there when I make level.

Modifié par LordFess, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:31 .

[GhoXen]

If you find the game difficult on Normal, it's a good indication that you will enjoy the game much more if played on Easy, at first anyway.

By the way, I get the feeling that you don't have a dedicated healer?

Modifié par GhoXen, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:34 .

[Sinfulvannila]

I'd try CCing the ranged first, the melee do potentialy more damage, but ranged have more annoying abilities and are unpredictable. What spells are you CCing with?

[Rhuakah]

I've found the difficulty varies significantly throughout, and I definitely sympathise with certain fights. Generally, I find being outnumbered is by far the hardest thing to control... especially in the earlier part of the game where you don't necessarily have a lot of skills to draw from.
If you're struggling on certain fights, my advice would be to pause regularly and check which enemies are causing the most trouble. They aren't necessarily the big hitters... enemies that stun or paralyse can give you a big headache.
Don't forget that healing potions are there to be used. I'm a hoarder by nature, but I've had to learn that they're tools, and not just to be stocked and sold.
Your main party doesn't include a rogue... not necessarily a bad thing, but you might struggle with traps, and I find a quick 'dirty fighting' stun can make a huge difference if used on the right person.
Do all origins start with the Marbari hound? In my experience, he's able to soak up far more damage than anyone else.
Though please note that I'm still on my first playthrough, so I don't have any great tips, really. If I really get to grips with tactics, I'll let you know.
Good luck!

Modifié par Rhuakah, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:46 .

[daem3an]

How I got past Redcliffe (no spoilers) at level 6, on hard:
3 archers and a mage raining holy hellfire from above, saving when the game allows. I only switched to melee for the last bit of the battle when they finally closed in on me. Alas, too late for them.

Modifié par daem3an, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .

[Sinfulvannila]

Are you being cheap with poultices? If a poultice won't overheal you and you aren't going to finish the fight in the next couple rounds, use a poultice.

[Sinfulvannila]

In redcliffe you can also pull zombies back to the knights. It's kinda cheap, but meh...

[Solmyr2000]

This game is too easy on hard. It's ok only on nightmare.
BGs (especially first) on max difficulty were FAR more difficult.

Modifié par Solmyr2000, 20 novembre 2009 - 08:44 .

[boardnfool86]

leveling you own character well doesn't cut it, you need to strategize and make sure your party as a whole is strong. If you only have one tank you better be able to have a mage that can F things up, and a healer is key cause you can't drink a health potion if your stunned or pinned down (which by the way, you should be able to counter spiders and mabaris, for a spider to pin you down and suck 100+ health from someone in massive armor is wack... not totally unfair, but for Andrastes sake, stab the mother [expletive deleted]!)

[Prenski20]

Thanks for everyone responses so far

[OriginalBaern]

I wish I had an answer for you, but I honestly can't say what your problem is. Perhaps your equipment is sub par, or your ability choices for your characters aren't the most efficient? Do you "tank" characters have high con and decent dex in addition to strength enough to wear the best armors? Do they have abilities like shield wall and shield tactics? Taunt and threaten? If they have those abilities, and good armor and constitution, between health poultices and healing, they should be able to take the heat while you kill the enemies.



With two mages you should have *more* than enough healing, if they both have at least heal. You did take heal on both, right? Do your mages have high magic and willpower enough to get through fights? Do they have good spell choices? Using AoE can be difficult to micromanage, but mages have very powerful single target spells, and some very powerful CC and defensive spells as well. Spells like Winters Grasp, Force Field, Paralyze, Misdirection Hex, etc are very easy to use and very powerful. Do you have them?



Are your damage characters attacking your "tanks" targets? If you aren't ganging up on targets, they will take too long to die, and you won't be able to keep people alive. What I often did with a party consisting of myself (shield warrior), Alistair (shield warrior), Leliana, and Wynne, was split fights up, with Alistair getting the attention of some enemies, with Wynne attacking his target, while my character would get the attention of the majority, or the meanest enemy, with Leliana helping to kill it. I had almost no CC, and no AoE on my playthrough, with Wynne being a healer and buffer, with no damage spells, and I did fine. You need to re-evaluate your choices, the game is challenging, but not that difficult.

[Rhuakah]

n2nw wrote...
Although I've just left it on Easy my second time around, it's really easy....and I like the fighting that way (and I can take different companions and not worry so much about party balance...I like their dialogues with each other).

Yeah, to be honest, the dialogue and story attract me far more than the combat. I want to be able to take a group that's not optimal for combat if they're good fun to be with...

[Sinfulvannila]

Well, one person with the heal spell is helpful, but a dedicated healer is pretty definitly not needed if you're using your poultices properly.

[daem3an]

I didn't have a healer. I was dreading that battle so much, and I died quickly the first time. Then I literally just sat back and focused ranged fire on 1 enemy at a time. They dropped like flies, I think I maybe used 1 or 2 potions at the end but I don't remember.

[bjdbwea]

I also found the game very hard at first, but don't despair. Just use cone of cold, it makes nearly all fights very easy. Just try to prevent friendly fire with the spell. There are more advanced strategies, but until then the cone of cold works nearly as well as a cheat in my opinion.

[S3RV0]

EZmode Nightmare:



Party Makeup - PC/Morrigan - Bloodmages, Wynne - whatever you want really. She's your healbot and for lulz make her a bloodmage too. Plot holes FTW!, Tank - anything/Champ.



Have your tank run in Taunt and War Cry then cast Force Field on him and then AoE everything to hell. Have the rest of your team be ranged so you don't get hit by FF on the AoE spam.



Have your bloodmages cast Blood Wound and then Death Cloud. 2x Blood Wound and 2x Death Cloud = virtually certain death for 90% of the game. I say 90% due to the mobs that are immune to Blood Wound. If you need more dmg Have Wynne cast Tempest. I like the ice and fire spells, but the resists of certain mobs make those spells useless for some parts of the game.



For your tank configuration at a minimum get Powerful, Threaten, Bravery, Taunt, Shield Wall, Shield Balance, Shield Expertise and give him a lot of dex for dodging. This is really only for those rare times when you can't cheese out and just cast Force Field on him and then AoE.



Srsly though easy game is easy. I'm running through it now trying to make it hard by doing a rogue only group of me, Zev and Leliana as rangers using only bears if I need a tank.

[Solmyr2000]

S3RV0 wrote...
cast Force Field on him.

Bah. Better play nightmare without exploits.
Force field is legal cheat for now.

[iounas]

If the game is hard for you lower the difficulty...cause thats what its for..

Its my first time playing this kind of game and I started on normal then upped it to hard and now to nightmare..

Just use creative tactics..

Once I was left alone in a fight with lot of enemies surrounding me..

I used mind blast, then casted inferno on me and then force field to protect me while inferno killed enemies..

Its all about creativity and using the right moves at the right time