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[alihou]

Okay, we all know Shepard is a bad ass and the epitome of a mans man... Do you want to see Shepard's more emotional side in ME3? Perhaps even seeing him shed a tear? We really haven't seen him vulnerable or breakdown as often... he deals with so much and he obviously needs to express his emotions... I think it can progress his character even further and will give the player a more satisfying experience...To understand Shepard fully, we need to see a whole range of his emotions. However we consistently see a few of them...Does Shepard get sad? Angry? Depressed?... What do you guys think? Any ideas? Maybe the LI can bring out a side of Shepard we haven't seen yet that doesn't involve sex? 

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

Seeing what you've been through already, depending on your history you could have been at Elysum, you were the Butcher of Torfan, you stopped Saren and Sovereign, you defeated the Collectors and you've had many people die under your command - I doubt you're going to have an 'episode' in front of your team, if you have bad moments they'll be in your cabin and maybe with your LI, but it will be personal and not shared.

Anyway thats my take on it.

[13commander]

alihou wrote...

... Maybe the LI can bring out a side of Shepard we haven't seen yet that doesn't involve sex? 

Thats what I want to see, at least once in ME3, lets say when Shepard has one big deccision to make, talks to the squat in the debriefing room (with his ussual charm,confidence, etc) but his LI senses something is wrong, and she/he tries to confort Shepard on an emotional level.

Sharing his burden, conforting him that he is not alone in this, that there are people who went and still go to hell himself for him (and his couse), He/She should be able to inspire Shepards confidence once again, this is a way that i picture this.

And also this should go both ways 

[Homebound]

lotsb did this already. depending on your choice of dialogue..since, our choice is what shepard feels.

[alihou]

Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...

Seeing what you've been through already, depending on your history you could have been at Elysum, you were the Butcher of Torfan, you stopped Saren and Sovereign, you defeated the Collectors and you've had many people die under your command - I doubt you're going to have an 'episode' in front of your team, if you have bad moments they'll be in your cabin and maybe with your LI, but it will be personal and not shared.

Anyway thats my take on it.

Oh for sure I agree with you... you can't expose yourself like that in front of your team...the galaxy depends on him... but personal scenes by himself or with the LI where we perhaps see a side we haven't seen yet... Shepard has done alot and killed a lot...but it doesn't seem to affect his personality that much...like even a simple scene in his cabin with him just sitting on his bed looking sad or feeling down or frustrated... or him freaking out and breaking something while no one's around... I think it will create a better understanding of his character... He's too bad ass for even bad asses sometimes...and i get the feeling now and then that all he is is a killing machine...

[HogarthHughes 3]

Renegade Shep is kinda angry much of the time, but that could easily be interpreted as a defense mechanism or a way to get what he/she wants rather than actual malice. Moments like in the LotSB chat with Liara aboard the Normandy, when the player can decide how Shepard is "really doing" could be nice. As long as it is somewhat left up to the player I'm all for it.

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

alihou wrote...

Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...

Seeing what you've been through already, depending on your history you could have been at Elysum, you were the Butcher of Torfan, you stopped Saren and Sovereign, you defeated the Collectors and you've had many people die under your command - I doubt you're going to have an 'episode' in front of your team, if you have bad moments they'll be in your cabin and maybe with your LI, but it will be personal and not shared.

Anyway thats my take on it.

Oh for sure I agree with you... you can't expose yourself like that in front of your team...the galaxy depends on him... but personal scenes by himself or with the LI where we perhaps see a side we haven't seen yet... Shepard has done alot and killed a lot...but it doesn't seem to affect his personality that much...like even a simple scene in his cabin with him just sitting on his bed looking sad or feeling down or frustrated... or him freaking out and breaking something while no one's around... I think it will create a better understanding of his character... He's too bad ass for even bad asses sometimes...and i get the feeling now and then that all he is is a killing machine...

I think the freaking out part would be out of character for shepherd, mine anyway. What you could have is him/her listening to music in their cabin and have him/her in a reflective mode, contemplating whats to come. Or looking at photos of team members who may have been killed - that sort of thing, not full on freak out mode.

[alihou]

Hellbound555 wrote...

lotsb did this already. depending on your choice of dialogue..since, our choice is what shepard feels.

You are very right...That's what made it so special... I think we need more character driven incentives from Shepard...  On my ParaShep...His scene with Liara in the cabin was wonderful... She wasn't my LI, but she made specific comments about my LI (who is Jack) and how I want to change her... and he responded how she means a lot him... Priceless moments in LOTSB, which is why that DLC was a big success for me...  

[alihou]

@ Big_Stupid_Jelly: Imagine though if he did break something... that would be a HOLY S### moment in the game... It's a side we haven't seen... Or perhaps it can happen on a RenShep...

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

alihou wrote...

@ Big_Stupid_Jelly: Imagine though if he did break something... that would be a HOLY S### moment in the game... It's a side we haven't seen... Or perhaps it can happen on a RenShep...

I know what you're saying, but I just don't see it happening myself. Shepherd has been through alot, and probably does carry alot of emotional baggage, but through both games he/she has kept it all stowed quite well.

Maybe we could have a workout room on the Normandy, so the crew could let off steam? Maybe box each other - Hmm, maybe a mini game in the making? I remember when O'Neil and Teal'c in Stargate SG1 used to box each other.

Anyway just a thought

[HogarthHughes 3]

alihou wrote...

Oh for sure I agree with you... you can't expose yourself like that in front of your team...the galaxy depends on him... but personal scenes by himself or with the LI where we perhaps see a side we haven't seen yet... Shepard has done alot and killed a lot...but it doesn't seem to affect his personality that much...like even a simple scene in his cabin with him just sitting on his bed looking sad or feeling down or frustrated... or him freaking out and breaking something while no one's around... I think it will create a better understanding of his character... He's too bad ass for even bad asses sometimes...and i get the feeling now and then that all he is is a killing machine...

At least for my renegon Shepard, I like to headcanon him as someone who has become so used to death that he can kill (NOT in self defense or the defense of others) with no remorse (for example, Joram Talid from Thane's LM).  He walks a fine line between being a very effective force for good and a very dangerous villain.

Just thought I'd note that the lack of emotion shown can fit with some Shepards and even add to their character in a way, definitely not all however. (especially as most people prefer paragon Shepard)

[Dexi]

No.
Shepard is the only chance the galaxy has because he is who he is. He kills when he has to because he knows so, and if he kills when it's not necessarily called for, he does it because he wishes it, for his own amusement or not, fully aware of the consequences.

No time for crying like a baby. No time to let yourself affected by what until now passed unnoticed, because it will affect his performance, and he doesn't need that, not now when the galaxy is under full war.
It's a restless fight and if you sit down to cry it's game over for you.



I've been in very tough situations, I had to pull myself and other people out of **** and sometimes when I saw my face in the mirror I nearly burst into tears. But I never sat down and cried for I always considered that crying means I acknowledge the hardship and the situation's superiority over my strength and morale.
Truth is, once I knew it's almost finally over in nights I did lay down and cry, but of joy mixed with burden, joy that it's finally over and breakdown thinking of what I had to go through.


I'd expect as much from Shepard. He is a leader and he knows all this. He needs to be strong for himself and for others as long as its required, but once he gets the job done he can stay put and be a baby unbothered for however long he wants.

Modifié par Dexi, 02 juillet 2011 - 10:49 .

[Leoism]

No need to cry but more like contemplate, I mean he is about to take on the greatest threat the universe has ever seen, Even Shepard will have doubts and anxiety to a degree. Like previously stated, I think it would definitely be a LI moment in the cabin definitely something worth hoping/wishing for, Seeing something completely new added to the game . I am definitely hoping for something like this so *fingers crossed*

[Roachbugg]

i think Shepards skin is only as thick as his skin weave level he has to let out all that emotion eventually.

[Leoism]

The PLC wrote...

I would rather have an anger moment. Like Shepard kicking around the furniture and yelling at his squad to step their game up. Pissed of Shepard.

This would work but your team wouldn't really trust your judgment if it happened too often, But then as a Renegade player that would work to a degree but in a sense you would be seeing the same side of yourself. Wouldn't you rather check out a different side even once? 

Modifié par Leoism, 02 juillet 2011 - 11:08 .

[lilco]

I'd like to see femshep shed a tear or two when her LI dies.

I bet feminists would hate it though.

:|

[Dangerfoot]

Anger is just as much a childish emotional reaction as sadness, possibly more.

[Leoism]

Anger is a defense mechanism, Ask any Psychologist

[Destroy Raiden_]

I support feelings for shep! I"m so sick of brick Shep! I mean there were points especially in 2 where it would've been appropriate for him to show something yet....brick syndrome stuck again. I was happy para shep hit Archer but then on ship I couldn't speak privately with my LI Tali so I could express how traumatizing being hacked was and be pissed off that she didn't do anything to help me! (Sense she came along) Then I wanted to yell at Legion (who also came along) for not doing anything to help me team tech should've been able to hack that door and get me the hell back from David. This also could've lead to more questions with Legion on geth and hacking how do they feel it, does it disturb them, did us using that virus on the heretic geth feel like what what David did to shep, does Legion feel they could do what was done to David would they link minds with a human if they could?

I like how in SB Meer was finally able to show feeling and inflection in his voice. I noticed in the demo shown he was sympathetic towards the child and I could hear it! I like the fact I can hear the emotions that should be there in the scene.

Arrival showed physical weakness which I liked alot. Shep took a long time to recover from the beacon then he was over powered by the time Arrival ended shep was abused and overpowered more times in that one mission then throughout the entire ME series and it was great shep was actually human I related more to him here then through most of the scenes in ME2.


I would like shep to be irate if the Council denies us troops in 3, he should be angry and confused when Miranda confirms the reaper tech was used in him and the true scope of the Lproject is revealed, I could see him upset maybe even cry if he gives the order to let a solar system die, I think shep should break down at somepoint during 3 sense that pressure is so great no man could deal with that! A potent scene or two with LI allowing shep to vent for once and play the role of supportive mate would be great too. I want him to have points of physical, psychological, and emotional weakness for 3.

I think people are demanding shep emotions and expression of feeling in 3 so much is we've gone 2 games with super brick shep who is the face of steel his jaw is sewn together and he can't tell the difference between his leg getting torn off or a bug bite pain wise.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 02 juillet 2011 - 06:44 .

[Siansonea]

Yes I would like for him to be able to express his feelings. I would also like for FemShep to be able to express HER feelings. And I'd like it to be player-controlled. Emotional breakdown, anger episode, or even a zen/acceptance moment, it would all be good.

[seirhart]

I disagree I want shepard to keep his emotion in check and never show it except to LI or people on his ship and that is it.

[Zkyire]

alihou wrote...

Okay, we all know Shepard is a bad ass and the epitome of a mans man... Do you want to see Shepard's more emotional side in ME3? Perhaps even seeing him shed a tear? We really haven't seen him vulnerable or breakdown as often... he deals with so much and he obviously needs to express his emotions... I think it can progress his character even further and will give the player a more satisfying experience...To understand Shepard fully, we need to see a whole range of his emotions. However we consistently see a few of them...Does Shepard get sad? Angry? Depressed?... What do you guys think? Any ideas? Maybe the LI can bring out a side of Shepard we haven't seen yet that doesn't involve sex? 

I want to see him start to cry.

A single tear starts to roll down his face.

Shepard looks down at it.

Yells "HEY!"

And then the tear rolls back up his cheek and into his tear ducts.

[Sheppard-Commander]

Yes! But only if it comes with lacey pink under-garments for my man shep to cry in.