ME1 was great, I don't really understand why they went so far backwards since it was so popular with everybody. Certainly TW2 went about as far forward as Bioware went backward, and it's pretty clear folks prefer going forward to going backward. Even if TW2 did go a bit far, certainly it was better than going as far backward as ME2 and DA2 did. TW2 set the standard by which ME3's love scenes will be judged, as did ME1, and everybody knows it, so hopefully they'll end up somewhere in between ME1 and TW2, not too far, just right.
Weaker Romance scenes just to avoid controversy
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#27
Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 03:22
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SirGladiator wrote...
ME1 was great, I don't really understand why they went so far backwards since it was so popular with everybody. Certainly TW2 went about as far forward as Bioware went backward, and it's pretty clear folks prefer going forward to going backward. Even if TW2 did go a bit far, certainly it was better than going as far backward as ME2 and DA2 did. TW2 set the standard by which ME3's love scenes will be judged, as did ME1, and everybody knows it, so hopefully they'll end up somewhere in between ME1 and TW2, not too far, just right.
Pretty much. ME1's scenes where artful. Yeah, they didn't leave much to the imagination, but there was more of the emotional aspects of it than the physical. I actually cared about my LI a lot more after the scene. I don't want to see something like TW2 though. It's supposed to be graphic because the world is graphic.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 04:47
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I would be fine with ME1's scene. Having clothes on is just silly. Going black is fine with me, but show a little something first.
I've come to realize that here in the USA, anyway, sex is bad while violence is good.
I've come to realize that here in the USA, anyway, sex is bad while violence is good.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 04:50
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Everyone would be fine with ME1 style, but they won't even do that anymore. It'd be interesting to hear a dev explain why, and I suppose in time we will.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 04:55
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Didn't a tweet say they were going to make the scenes more akin to ME1?
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 05:01
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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
Punching people in the face? Fine.
Pushing people out of windows? Fine.
Shooting people? Fine.
Showing people being liquified? Fine.
Showing entire ships full of people destroyed? Fine.
Showing people being tortured? Fine.
Show a bit of skin? WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
^had to chuckle but honestly I could never fathom these rating folks over the logic of rating blood and gore and general phycho mahem more aceptable then a nicely done romance scene (ME1), I just
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 05:07
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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
Punching people in the face? Fine.
Pushing people out of windows? Fine.
Shooting people? Fine.
Showing people being liquified? Fine.
Showing entire ships full of people destroyed? Fine.
Showing people being tortured? Fine.
Show a bit of skin? WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
#33
Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 05:19
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I'd have to agree with combining the two. The unique nature of each cutscene was good in ME2. It really showed how the relationships are different, not the same. However, I did think it was a bit weak and anti-climactic for some of them, leaving a lot to the imagination.
Then again, maybe that's because they are unique. For example, a paragon romance of Jack really could have been Shepard just holding Jack as she cried. I mean, jumping her bones would have seemed a bit inappropriate in that scenario, so a full on sex scene might have totally gone against what would have been best for the relationship.
Either way though, it seems like a bit more of a scene is due for ME3.
Then again, maybe that's because they are unique. For example, a paragon romance of Jack really could have been Shepard just holding Jack as she cried. I mean, jumping her bones would have seemed a bit inappropriate in that scenario, so a full on sex scene might have totally gone against what would have been best for the relationship.
Either way though, it seems like a bit more of a scene is due for ME3.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 05:35
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Red Dead Redemption has a sex scene with pelvic thrusting and topless nudity and yet ME2 has clothed dry humping and fade to blacks. It becomes more of a joke when you factor in the practical ME1 armors being replaced with comic book style designs consisting of nipple straps,catsuits, high heels and large v necks.
They might as well abolish the romances altogether as far as I'm concerned.
They might as well abolish the romances altogether as far as I'm concerned.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 05:56
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Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:05
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I really wouldn't consider the Mass Effect 2 romances weaker.
Especially since they aren't the same copy and pasted thing like the Mass Effect ones.
Especially since they aren't the same copy and pasted thing like the Mass Effect ones.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:09
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mrsph wrote...
I really wouldn't consider the Mass Effect 2 romances weaker.
Especially since they aren't the same copy and pasted thing like the Mass Effect ones.
The romances themselves were pretty weak - I don't think it had a lot to do with the sex scenes, though.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:10
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Nodscouter wrote...
Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
Haven't seen this argument before.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:23
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It's not directed towards the entire thread, just to the guy above me.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:32
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Nodscouter wrote...
Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
It's not exactly Porn though is it? It's barely a 15 rated scene, we don't even get to see bits, you'll probably see more in something like 'Rome' or a current one ' Spartacus - Blood and Sand' which i'm told is very sexual.
My take on it is that its basically the old 'Games are for children' thing again. People from the UK probably know Hollyoaks - a Teen's TV serial, hell thats racier than ME1 or ME2.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:40
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Nodscouter wrote...
It's not directed towards the entire thread, just to the guy above me.
Boobs =/= over the top. Half the population has them, it's not anything to write home about. However, it's not really in keeping with the whole Mass Effect thing, but honestly given the choice I prefer boobs to fanservice for creepy Talimamcers. Just sayin'.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:53
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It does seem that way. And unless I missed somthing there have been alot of games recently that have shown quite alot of skin and I don't remember hearing any contorvery about those.
I don't particularly need to see any naughty bits in ME3 but I do feel that ME2's love/sex scenes were lacking in intimacy and in some cases felt very crude and badly acated out. I do miss ME1's love/sex scene and would take somthing like that over "The Witcher 2"s pixelated shagging any day.
I don't particularly need to see any naughty bits in ME3 but I do feel that ME2's love/sex scenes were lacking in intimacy and in some cases felt very crude and badly acated out. I do miss ME1's love/sex scene and would take somthing like that over "The Witcher 2"s pixelated shagging any day.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 06:56
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Nodscouter wrote...
Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
Because you need over-the-top action scenes?
What's the point of not just watching an action movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:02
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Raizo wrote...
It does seem that way. And unless I missed somthing there have been alot of games recently that have shown quite alot of skin and I don't remember hearing any contorvery about those.
I don't particularly need to see any naughty bits in ME3 but I do feel that ME2's love/sex scenes were lacking in intimacy and in some cases felt very crude and badly acated out. I do miss ME1's love/sex scene and would take somthing like that over "The Witcher 2"s pixelated shagging any day.
Have you actually played Witcher 2? The sex scene (singular) in my playthrough was - unlike the ones in Mass Effect 2 - integrated into the story, in the context of a fully developed relationship (vs. a "congradulations you have survived the trek through Miranda's dialogue tree - here is a sex scene that is never brought up again in any kind of depth."), and actually tells you something about the characters and the world they live in. But it has (OMIGAWSH) boobies in it, so it must be shallow, right?
The other game I think Mass Effect should be taking notes from is Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, which does the same thing - making sure the sex scene in the story works with and further develops the plot, characters, and relationship.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:05
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No, but it generally fullfills the same purpose as porn, only it's weaker.Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...
Nodscouter wrote...
Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
It's
not exactly Porn though is it? It's barely a 15 rated scene, we don't
even get to see bits, you'll probably see more in something like 'Rome'
or a current one ' Spartacus - Blood and Sand' which i'm told is very
sexual.
That's not what I meant. The guy above me said that we should abolish the whole idea of romances, just because he doesn't get afore-mentioned nude boobs.DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...
Nodscouter wrote...
It's not directed towards the entire thread, just to the guy above me.
Boobs
=/= over the top. Half the population has them, it's not anything to
write home about. However, it's not really in keeping with the whole
Mass Effect thing, but honestly given the choice I prefer boobs to
fanservice for creepy Talimamcers. Just sayin'.
Honestly, in the end, I wouldn't care if the game had it in or not, but people who say ''bewbage or we can just dump the whole romance feature'' is slightly annoying, at least tome.
Because a relatively large part of the game is about just that?IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
Nodscouter wrote...
Because you need over-the-top romance scenes?
What's the point of not just watching a porn movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
Because you need over-the-top action scenes?
What's the point of not just watching an action movie in that case? I'm pretty sure there's plenty of that on the internet.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:06
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Everyone knows Mass Effect is a romance that tries too hard to be an action movie.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:07
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Is it really necessary for you to watch them in the act? There are better places to find porn, you know.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:17
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Indeed the ME1 scene was prefect imo.
Its just right, not over the top and its sexy and erotic. Compared to all other bioware romantic scenes in ME2 and DAO/DA2 which are quite frankly sad.
We dont need TW2 style full on nudity, that fit TW2 and the Triss elven bath scene is up there the the ME1 scene as the best sex scenes in my eyes, but that doesnt fit the ME series so no need to go that far.
Its just right, not over the top and its sexy and erotic. Compared to all other bioware romantic scenes in ME2 and DAO/DA2 which are quite frankly sad.
We dont need TW2 style full on nudity, that fit TW2 and the Triss elven bath scene is up there the the ME1 scene as the best sex scenes in my eyes, but that doesnt fit the ME series so no need to go that far.
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Posté 02 juillet 2011 - 07:19
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DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...
Have you actually played Witcher 2? The sex scene (singular) in my playthrough was - unlike the ones in Mass Effect 2 - integrated into the story, in the context of a fully developed relationship (vs. a "congradulations you have survived the trek through Miranda's dialogue tree - here is a sex scene that is never brought up again in any kind of depth."), and actually tells you something about the characters and the world they live in. But it has (OMIGAWSH) boobies in it, so it must be shallow, right?
The other game I think Mass Effect should be taking notes from is Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, which does the same thing - making sure the sex scene in the story works with and further develops the plot, characters, and relationship.
There are 5 different of those scenes in TW2 and one is maybe if you choose out of love for Triss, the rest have nothing to do with love. And don't want to say those scenes weren't tasteful, I think they did a good job.
But I don't need this for ME because I want to ME to be about building a deeper relationship.
But remember, if you want naked asari, you will have to see naked Garrus as well.
Equality, Ladys and Gentlemen
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