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Saphra Deden wrote...

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I'd personally shoot her in the face if she tried to take command of the migrant fleet. She lets her emotions ruin her logic.


"She lets her emotions ruin her logic."

She's not the only one.


lol, why didnt I think of that?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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I'd personally shoot her in the face if she tried to take command of the migrant fleet. She lets her emotions ruin her logic.


"She lets her emotions ruin her logic."

She's not the only one.


True indeed!  I find her to be more of a liablity than an assest. 

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Saphra Deden wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

I'd personally shoot her in the face if she tried to take command of the migrant fleet. She lets her emotions ruin her logic.


"She lets her emotions ruin her logic."

She's not the only one.


I wouldn't let most of my squadmates command anything. Outside of a select few, they all have too many issues to be trusted with command. >.>

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Tali isn't ready to be an Admiral. Maybe someday, but not yet. She needs to develop a much greater respect for the law, for one thing, since the Admiralty is a judiciary body.

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VegasVance wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

I'd personally shoot her in the face if she tried to take command of the migrant fleet. She lets her emotions ruin her logic.


"She lets her emotions ruin her logic."

She's not the only one.


True indeed!  I find her to be more of a liablity than an assest. 


Um, if I'm right.. I think Saphra's sarcasm was lost on you, Vegas...

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However I must disagree about Tali being a bad leader.



She'd be a bad leader because she lacks the experience needed to command an entire fleet.

I don't think she is inherently doomed as a leader. She has to work her way up though... and grow up a little.

Her loyalty mission exposes her greatest weaknesses as a person. Ultimately Tali does succumb to emotion more than reason. He stance on the geth issue and her father is the best example. She disagrees with all the admirals but doesn't offer any alternatives.

She doesn't want to settle elsewhere or make peace with the geth, so she's opposed to K'oris.

She thinks a war would be bloody and pointless, so she's against G'errel.

Then, she opposes Xen because she's "insane" but never explains why. Ignoring the fact that Xen presents the most logical and efficient means of defeating the geth and getting back the homeworld.

Later of-course she decides to cover up the truth, not to help the fleet, but to help her father's legacy.

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Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

I'd personally shoot her in the face if she tried to take command of the migrant fleet. She lets her emotions ruin her logic.


"She lets her emotions ruin her logic."

She's not the only one.


True indeed!  I find her to be more of a liablity than an assest. 


Um, if I'm right.. I think Saphra's sarcasm was lost on you, Vegas...


It wasn't, my reasons of shooting tali if she tried to take over the fleet, would be she's trying to take over the fleet. aka treason. 

Edit: Unless you think having another trail for her would be a good thing?

Modifié par VegasVance, 02 juillet 2011 - 09:29 .


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Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...

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Siansonea II wrote...

Tali isn't ready to be an Admiral. Maybe someday, but not yet. She needs to develop a much greater respect for the law, for one thing, since the Admiralty is a judiciary body.

I agree, but she needs to be some kind of important person by now. Besides her and Garrus all the ME1 squaddies are important. VS is a spectre, Wrex is king of the Krogans and Liara's the friggen Shadow Broker. Come on "Team dextro" do something cool.Image IPB

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

However I must disagree about Tali being a bad leader.



She'd be a bad leader because she lacks the experience needed to command an entire fleet.

I don't think she is inherently doomed as a leader. She has to work her way up though... and grow up a little.

Her loyalty mission exposes her greatest weaknesses as a person. Ultimately Tali does succumb to emotion more than reason. He stance on the geth issue and her father is the best example. She disagrees with all the admirals but doesn't offer any alternatives.

She doesn't want to settle elsewhere or make peace with the geth, so she's opposed to K'oris.

She thinks a war would be bloody and pointless, so she's against G'errel.

Then, she opposes Xen because she's "insane" but never explains why. Ignoring the fact that Xen presents the most logical and efficient means of defeating the geth and getting back the homeworld.

Later of-course she decides to cover up the truth, not to help the fleet, but to help her father's legacy.


Ah I probably should have reworded that, I meant that Tali has not been in a proper position of leadership, and the one time she was, prazza's squad (Apparently Tali has her own squad) went rogue on its own.

Still I agree with all of your points. She needs experience, she needs to learn.

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Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]

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VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.

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IMO, this would not be a good thing. Tali is not leader material. Just...no.

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Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


The fact that you would make judgement upon someone online without knowing them demostrates how big of a stick must be up your pooper. 

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VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


The fact that you would make judgement upon someone online without knowing them demostrates how big of a stick must be up your pooper. 


The same could be applied to you, judging by your previous comment...

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Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


The fact that you would make judgement upon someone online without knowing them demostrates how big of a stick must be up your pooper. 


The same could be applied to you, judging by your previous comment...


It could, then again I just did take a poop on your thread. 
:)

Modifié par VegasVance, 02 juillet 2011 - 09:44 .


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Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


Just so you know, I do the same thing in saints row. It makes me smile. :wub:

However this is not following the topic of the thread at all, so lets bring it back on track eh?

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VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


The fact that you would make judgement upon someone online without knowing them demostrates how big of a stick must be up your pooper. 


The same could be applied to you, judging by your previous comment...


It could, then again I just did take a poop on your thread. 
:)


I will not lower myself to fight you any further on this matter. Troll to your heart's content and when Tali is put on the Admiralty board, which I'm fairly certain she will be (Whether certain people like it or not), you can go ahead and shoot her as you planned. I could care less...

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VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Garrison2009 wrote...

Tali wouldn't try to TAKE OVER the fleet... She's not like that, dude. And if you shot her because she actually got elected then... You have serious problems...


Thinking that people have problems because they kill people in video games, points to you having serious problems about seperation of reality and fantasy.
=]


So your obviously one of those people who play Grand Theft Auto and have no problem with gunning down, bashing, bludgeoning, or running over perfectly innocent people walking across street... It may be a video game but stuff like that is still disturbing and the fact that you obviously have no problem with it speaks volumes about your character, sir.


The fact that you would make judgement upon someone online without knowing them demostrates how big of a stick must be up your pooper. 


The same could be applied to you, judging by your previous comment...


It could, then again I just did take a poop on your thread. 
:)


Teh intertubez r 4 serial.

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^ Agreed.
Any luck on finding reasons for her to be an Admiral?

She might get on the Admirality board, but then again she might already be dead. :D

Modifié par VegasVance, 02 juillet 2011 - 09:51 .


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Garrison2009 wrote...

I will not lower myself to fight you any further on this matter. Troll to your heart's content and when Tali is put on the Admiralty board, which I'm fairly certain she will be (Whether certain people like it or not), you can go ahead and shoot her as you planned. I could care less...


:whistle:

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VegasVance wrote...

^ Agreed.
Any luck on finding reasons for her to be an Admiral?

She might get on the Admirality board, but then again she might already be dead. :D


Tali, if not exiled, becomes VERY popular within the flotilla. She has helped save the galaxy, she helped paint the Quarians in a good light, and she is THE foremost expert on Geth.

If the people want her in power, she WILL be in power no matter if its a good idea or not. History has proven this many times over.

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Nashiktal wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

^ Agreed.
Any luck on finding reasons for her to be an Admiral?

She might get on the Admirality board, but then again she might already be dead. :D


Tali, if not exiled, becomes VERY popular within the flotilla. She has helped save the galaxy, she helped paint the Quarians in a good light, and she is THE foremost expert on Geth.

If the people want her in power, she WILL be in power no matter if its a good idea or not. History has proven this many times over.


All good points, and I would add a meta-reason to yours as well.  It's Bioware, they like to repeat themseleves, they like to repeat themseleves. So I could see them doing a former squadie as a leader of their race.  

However for a meta reason to counter it, she is a squaddie and helping a people whilist being a light years seems impratical to say the least. 

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VegasVance wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

^ Agreed.
Any luck on finding reasons for her to be an Admiral?

She might get on the Admirality board, but then again she might already be dead. :D


Tali, if not exiled, becomes VERY popular within the flotilla. She has helped save the galaxy, she helped paint the Quarians in a good light, and she is THE foremost expert on Geth.

If the people want her in power, she WILL be in power no matter if its a good idea or not. History has proven this many times over.


All good points, and I would add a meta-reason to yours as well.  It's Bioware, they like to repeat themseleves, they like to repeat themseleves. So I could see them doing a former squadie as a leader of their race.  

However for a meta reason to counter it, she is a squaddie and helping a people whilist being a light years seems impratical to say the least. 


As i have said already, Bioware stated, on one of their Twitter updates, That Tali may not necessarily be with you the whole game, lending credence to this theory.

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Garrison2009 wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

VegasVance wrote...

^ Agreed.
Any luck on finding reasons for her to be an Admiral?

She might get on the Admirality board, but then again she might already be dead. :D


Tali, if not exiled, becomes VERY popular within the flotilla. She has helped save the galaxy, she helped paint the Quarians in a good light, and she is THE foremost expert on Geth.

If the people want her in power, she WILL be in power no matter if its a good idea or not. History has proven this many times over.


All good points, and I would add a meta-reason to yours as well.  It's Bioware, they like to repeat themseleves, they like to repeat themseleves. So I could see them doing a former squadie as a leader of their race.  

However for a meta reason to counter it, she is a squaddie and helping a people whilist being a light years seems impratical to say the least. 


As i have said already, Bioware stated, on one of their Twitter updates, That Tali may not necessarily be with you the whole game, lending credence to this theory.


She can also be dead too. She won't be with you then unless the magic of retcon comes into play 
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