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Will you sacrifice your LI to save the galaxy? Or be selfish like Neo in the Matrix?


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Pups_of_war_76

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I wish people would stop makin' this thread.

It is just giving Mac Walters cheesy ideas.

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Omega Torsk

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My Colonist Shep got too many bummers thrown his way during his life. If he lost Ash, that would be the final straw. So yeah, he'll pull a Neo if it comes to that...
Yeah it's selfish and Ash most likely wouldn't respect the decision, but maybe if the galaxy spent the last 2 years planning instead of denying Shep's claims and living in ignorance, they may have had a greater chance!

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Your love interest will never be able look at you, let alone touch you.  They'd feel dirty/unclean knowing that the only reason they're alive was because Shepard decided to toast an entire planet/culture/what have you. 

This is what haunts me the most about this choice. Shepard destructs an entire planet/culture/what have you to save the woman he loves only to lose both. But that's how my Shepard sees things; he'd rather live a short life with the woman he loves than live a long life without her.

Hopefully, this won't be a mandatory choice. I'm hoping for an option to save the galaxy and live happily ever after with my LI!

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 08 juillet 2011 - 03:52 .


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CuseGirl

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Tonymac wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

I've risked my virtual life for Miranda countless times, why stop now?


You wouldn't.  Those of us who are actually veterans trained to sacrafice for the good of the many - to defend the Constitution, and the American people.  I expect that Miranda and Shepard would do no less.



How are you gonna tell me what I would do? Especially in a game that we'll probably play a minimum of 3 times? "trained veterans"? lmaaooooo, it's fictional! As far as I'm concerned, if I can get rid of the Reapers and have Miranda or get rid of the Reapers and have millions of people who dont know me or care about me, I'll take Miranda.

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Ryzaki

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Good thing my Shep doesn't have an LI. So stupid choice doesn't affect him.

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LOL I'll do the OP a favor and pretend he didn't refrence the Matrix sequels.

Depends on my shepherd really. Most of them I can see myself totally sacrificing them if it meant saving the galaxy but that seems contrived and lame. I don't see how that would work.

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PiercedMonk

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I am actually a bit upset by the idea of sacrificing Jack. Didn't expect that....

She's been used and treated as less than a person her entire life, and finally she has the oppertunity to see that the galaxy has more to offer than manipulation and abuse. To then turn around and have Shepard be forced into a situatation where he has to sacrifice her like some piece on a chess board...that would be difficult.

Which isn't to say that I wouldn't do it, because really, you can't put the life of one person above that of billions of others, but I think I might have to put the controller down for a long while before continuing the play.

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Ash is my Shepard's one weakness. He would either find a way to save both (the galaxy AND her) or he'd, with alot of regret save Ash alone. He'd be devestated of course, but he could never let her die.

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I have squadmates I'd let the galaxy burn for, but they aren't my LIs.

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While I think some LIs would let Shephard decide, I think some other LIs wouldn't. I can't see Jack going down "for the good of the galaxy" without a fight. I can't see Garrus letting you sacrifice a world for him if he can do anything about it. In which case, to enforce your "decision", you might have to actually physically restrain your own LI. Obviously, the easy way around this is to take the decision into Shephard's hands and her* actions are the only thing that can decide their fate, which would require a very specific set of circumstances - possibly one where the LI isn't even aware that they are about to be sacrificed or saved at the cost of the galaxy/a world. I'm just saying, there are definitely some LIs who really just will not roll over and let Shephard decide something of that magnitude for them.

*Using "her" because gender-neutral pronouns confuse me.

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Well my LI is Liara i could never do her dirty like that so i prolly just knock up Liara just so i can have a lineage (yes im aware the kid wouldn't have an ounce of my DNA but still). Then just sacrifice myself, same thing with Jack cuz shes my other LI in a different runthrough.

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jtav wrote...

I have squadmates I'd let the galaxy burn for, but they aren't my LIs.


lol yes! actually come to think of it, only a couple i would be willing to sacrifice. 
  • seth green (joker)<---gladly
  • jack
  • zaeed
  • jacob


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My Shepard would sacrifice himself to save the galaxy. But not his LI, crew or anyone else he cares about. They're all part of that very galaxy he's attempting to save.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

My Shepard would sacrifice himself to save the galaxy. But not his LI, crew or anyone else he cares about. They're all part of that very galaxy he's attempting to save.


^This.

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If you save everyone, it probably entails stopping the reaper threat. If you save just the LI, that's probably not the case. So saving just the LI only delays your demise, while saving everyone probably ends the war.
On top if that, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one. Spock said it, so that's what I would do.

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Depends on the stakes - if saving your LI or a squadmate means that reapers win than there is no point in saving them is it? You may get them out today but they will die tomorrow anyway.
But if it is a simple "many people against one you know" situation than I'd save my LI - it is my live philosophy that one should do the best they can by people who are close to us - friends, family and thous we know, rather than try to "save the universe", since the second option never works out anyway. Live runs it's cause and sometimes it means loses, I only can try my best to prevent thous loses for people that I actually know.

Modifié par Sshodan, 11 juillet 2011 - 10:01 .


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CuseGirl wrote...

Tonymac wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

I've risked my virtual life for Miranda countless times, why stop now?


You wouldn't.  Those of us who are actually veterans trained to sacrafice for the good of the many - to defend the Constitution, and the American people.  I expect that Miranda and Shepard would do no less.



How are you gonna tell me what I would do? Especially in a game that we'll probably play a minimum of 3 times? "trained veterans"? lmaaooooo, it's fictional! As far as I'm concerned, if I can get rid of the Reapers and have Miranda or get rid of the Reapers and have millions of people who dont know me or care about me, I'll take Miranda.


It was an attempt to agree with you.  I am a veteran - as in served my country.  I stood on a wall to protect people at the sacrafice of my own freedom and safety.   I brought this up to show a particular mindset.  Granted, it is a Paragon type of thing, like when Shep explains to Liarra (after LOTSB) that he is fighting for all life everywhere.  I suppose that point was not noticed or appreciated because you would rather laugh it up and poke fun rather than read. 

"I've risked my virtual life for Miranda countless times, why stop now?"  <--- quoted from you.

"You wouldn't."   <---  Quoted from me.  It is short for you would not.  Meaning:  You would not stop risking your virtual life for Miranda.  I showed an agreeance with you - yet you poke fun, misquote and get snippy.

I find  your reversal and  ["trained veterans"? lmaaooooo] to be less than amusing.  I am the Veteran, not the virtual character(s) or the players.

Play your game how you want to.  I will no longer be in this particular thread.  Some of its inhaitants are....  less than agreeable.

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XX55XX wrote...

In The Matrix Reloaded, Neo makes the choice to save Trinity instead of saving Zion.

Neo may have been motivated by a sense of duty to his lover, egged on by his hormones.

Since it's a video game, most people would probably elect to save their LI. But, would you leave your LI to die so that millions of others might just be saved?


Yes.

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LOL, my Sheps....Hell, it's a tough call.
My main Shep is with Garrus; both are fairy f*cked up (My Shep is a colonist and sole survivor) but are whole with one another, and she's been through a lot and will be all "Oh stuff this, I deserve to be happy just ONCE"
My male Shep is with Tali and he's way too in love with her to ever think about having her killed; he wouldn't stop to think about what the alternative would be, he would only think about keeping her safe.
My Renegade B*tch Shepard...well, she would just say, "Save your own damn as*es for once" and she and Liara would go off to have little blue children.
My remaining Male Shep...eh, he's still waiting for the perfect man.

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Bioware may tie character development to romance arcs, but I don't think they'd be silly enough to tie victory against the Reapers to having a LI in the first place, right...?

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there's gonna be many ways to end this game. sacrificing the entire crew is prolly one, yourself is one, you and your LI or just your Li, there's gonna be lots of ways to finish the game. just like ME2 there's lots of ways it can go down.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

LOL I'll do the OP a favor and pretend he didn't refrence the Matrix sequels.

Depends on my shepherd really. Most of them I can see myself totally sacrificing them if it meant saving the galaxy but that seems contrived and lame. I don't see how that would work.


^^ LMAO love it!!! *cough* bad films *cough cough* Image IPB

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My Sheps would sacrifice themself before any of their friends if possible (which would mean that would be at the end of the game only) but if sacrificing them is necessary then yeah they'd absolutely do it LI or non-LI
And my Renegade would of course sacrifice them as long as it means staying alive ;)

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Tonymac wrote...

Play your game how you want to.  I will no longer be in this particular thread.  Some of its inhaitants are....  less than agreeable.


you seem awfully snippy for some1 whose syntax led to a complete misunderstanding.

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Luna Siwora wrote...

If I needed to sacrifice someone, I'd sacrifice myself... I wouldn't be able to live knowhing that I've sacrificed Liara, for the Galaxy is full of idiots and slavers and what else. Her life is worth more than that, mine isn't. So, no.


^this, also including the other ones. except Thane if i couldn't find a coure before, otherwise him too.

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Nah huh.

Bah, blast it, unfortunately my canon Shep is a goody two shoes, duty driven, soldier. So, yeah, she'd probably toss Kaidan into a Reaper's mouth if it means saving lives.

Now if it actually does come to that in game, I think I'll hit 'esc' and stop playing because, you know, trite.

Modifié par Avilia, 13 juillet 2011 - 11:17 .