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[Tha_Champion]

I joined this site expecting to find fanatics who had chosen every possible response for every chance Hawke got, but in less than 15 minutes I have found that most of you seem to dislike the game. But if there is anyone out there who has searched every corner of the map, I'd appreciate your help.

I rented DA2. Planned on buying it if I really liked it. Did NOT plan on finishing it within my alloded 5 nights. So that made me wonder if it's really worth it. I really liked the story, but if it's that short, what's the point in spending $60? Then again, I only earned 42% or something that that of the available trophies. I usually went on to the main plot as soon as I could, and left several of the secondary and side quests unfinished. I only did one or two of the companion quests. I found out I didn't even find two of the possible party members.

Here's how the story went: Got into the city, went on the Deep Roads, killed Arishok, killed Meredith, game over.

After I was done, I looked at the trophies I hadn't gotten. One of them wwas for becoming the Viscount. That would be pretty freakin' awesome. One was for earning Arishok's respect. I never even came close to that. Does that happen from doing some of those quests, or just from making different descisions? Are there different outcomes if I make different choices?

Basically, can I get a lot more out of this game than I have?

[Therece]

Earning the Arishok's respect is mainly just doing the exact same-thing, And possible turning Isabella over.

There is no Different outcomes regardless of the side you choose, You kill Meredith and Orisino. But i would try to play the game as a different class if i were you, there is subtle changes between Mage/Warrior, Rogue is pretty much the same as warrior.

But if you enjoyed the game the first time around i would suggest replaying it for the Achievements if you wish.

[xkg]

I would gladly tell you all about that but this is no-spoilers forum so i can't

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

A lot of the variety in playthroughs comes with interactions with companions. If you're wondering about whether any of the major plot points change, answer is no. In many cases, doing things differently gets you the exact same result.

So whether it's worth a replay depends on how much you like the companions and NPCs.

If anything though, don't buy full price. Find it on sale, it's not too expensive nowadays.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 03 juillet 2011 - 03:05 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

However, if you encounter multiple concussions in your daily routine of life, then this game might have a high quality of replay value.

[cJohnOne]

My first playthrough was 41 hours. My last playthrough was 61 hours. So it's getting longer as I go along.

[Monica83]

The game have not choice that change radically the plot... So i am not able to finish it again.

[por favor]

TehVGG has awesome walkthroughs for the DA:II achievements and so do many other people on YouTube. I consulted them for guidance when I was trying to earn the achievements. I suggest you check them out.

[hexaligned]

Just watch the alternate in game cut scenes on youtube imo. Nothing in the game world changes, you just get a few different lines of dialogue

[csfteeeer]

Nope, nothing really changes at all, of course you can also do Romances (if you can call them romances), but i doubt this would be enough for you.
i guess if you like gameplay or the characters it might be worth playing again to use what little tactics the game has to offer and the so-called different relationships with your companions.

Other than that, if that doesn't convince you, Then no, it's not worth it.
Seriously i felt like the first time i played, i had already played it 5 times, and had no desire what so ever to repeat.

[Icy Magebane]

There are many variables among the plot points, but they almost always lead to the same conclusions. That's good enough for some people, but not everyone. While you have an impact on how the story is told, you don't get much input as to what story is being told... if that at all makes sense...

[Black Arachnia]

Played through it twice - and nothing changed. The recycled environments and waves made it difficult to finish the 2nd play through kept putting the game away and then finally finished it. It was then I realized that a game isn't fun if it feels like work to finish it.

[Chiramu]

I could only manage to complete the game twice :<, could only do so both times as mage. I can't stand Bethany so I can't stand to play rogue or warrior.

[Romantiq]

If you can force yourself to go through this torture then go ahead.

[frustratemyself]

It probably depends on your reasons for playing.

I've finished the game around 10 times. The first few times was more for the story then I got more interested in the combat so I started cranking up the difficulty and playing with different character builds. My last couple of playthroughs I haven't really payed too much attention to the story, just been having fun with the combat.

If you're playing for story alone it may only be worth 2-3 playthroughs. Otherwise take a break, see how you feel and give it another crack.

[Shuma Gorath]

Finished three play through as Nice Hawke, Sarcastic Hawke, and Angry Hawke with variations on friendly/rivalry romances. In my opinion the few lines of extra dialogue is not incentive enough to waste 30 hours or less to complete the game when it’s far less tedious to just look for them on you tube.

[Plaintiff]

I've gone through with each class, as well as trying different responses on the dialogue wheel and I'm on something like my fifth or sixth playthrough.

I'd say you should definitely buy it. Especially since you say you avoided sidequests and missed two NPCs entirely. Of course the game is going to be short if you only focus on exactly what you NEED to do and nothing else. The story will not "change" exactly but the sidequests and companion quests add so much more. And with the more recent patch, I'm finding new things even now.

Sure you can watch youtube videos and maybe get the gist, but why anyone would do that when they could experience the story for themselves and play it the way they want to, I have no idea.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 03 juillet 2011 - 02:44 .

[Torax]

Personally for all my complaints about the decisions or issues with the story? I've played enough hours for the price tag to say it was worth the purchase. Now personally? I would say PC is the best way to play it for the add ons and so on to customize a bit more of the game to your own fancy. If you go the route of consoles you're at the mercy of whatever dlc's they decide to put out to milk a few bucks just to make the companions look more unique like with Mass Effect 2.

[mesmerizedish]

I think it's very replayable. Moreso than Origins undoubtedly.

But, I'm not sure I'd feel that way without modding (about either game). So if you can only play on console, I can only speculate. But the PC edition is well worth it.

[Vinix Tea]

Why do people find the Arishok achievement so hard to get? :/ [No offense intended to anyone at all, but this was an easy achievement in my opinion ^^;] It's really as simple as this [if you don't want the help, ignore this next bit, I decided to add it anyways just in case you wanted the assisstance ^^;]; when Ser Varnell is slitting the throats of the Qunari in act 2, take the Qunari's side in the matter, which will result in you fighting him ans his fanatics, then when you inform the Viscount, and he asks you what to do about the mess, tell him not to hide it from the Arishok. The only other parts you have to worry about after that, is when you enter the Qunari compound with Aveline before he starts slaying you. He will ask you where the Relic is, and be upfront with him by choosing the option "Isabela took it". Then when he asks you about the elves, agree with him. You will get rivalry from Aveline, but it's not anything you can't make up for in Act 3, if you're worried about her friendship. You'll get the achievement right before he orders his soldiers to attempt to slaughter you with a rain of javelins. [annndddd end]

And as for replaying the game, if you really want the achievements, and you enjoyed the story, go for it, and play it again. Don't let the bad vibes a game gets prevent you from playing it if you really want to, as everyone has different opinions, and you could find that you disagree with the protests yourself. I've played the game so many times now, but that's because I love it, and I can get everything done quickly after one playthrough, because I don't forget a video game [this may just be me,however]. But if you're playing the game again, and realize it's just for achievements and not for the enjoyment of the story, then buying it may not be in your best interest. I know I said i played it many times, but the first few times i played it, it was for the satisfaction of the story, and trying things differently [still with the same outcome, yes, but the different lead-ups are still nice]. Then when i went back to play it just for achievements, I found myself eventually enjoying the story again. If you feel a similar way about it, then by all means, buy it, but only because you know you'll want to go back and play it more. Otherwise, just play it, if you don't know how you feel, take a break, play it again, don't like it, don't buy it, because then it will just be a waste of cash and whatnot.

And I agree with Torax. Though I use an XBox, I'm aware of PC add-ons and Mods, and PC is probably the better choice to keep the game interesting. I've also heard that the visuals on the PC version of DA2 are also more eye-popping than they are for the console games, but that may just depend on the computer and TV. ^^;

Modifié par Vinix Tea, 03 juillet 2011 - 03:26 .

[Vinix Tea]

Double post. >_<

Modifié par Vinix Tea, 03 juillet 2011 - 03:25 .

[Torax]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I think it's very replayable. Moreso than Origins undoubtedly.

But, I'm not sure I'd feel that way without modding (about either game). So if you can only play on console, I can only speculate. But the PC edition is well worth it.

Modding is one the things I love the most about the Dragon Age games. Though I will give Bioware/EA Credit. That if my Steam is to be believed. Before ME3 comes out I'll have eaten up a minimum of 4 weeks of my life just playing that one game. Even if a bit that is possibly jsut the game being on while sleeping, eating and god knows what else cause I'm forgetful. 623 hours played in Origins. 632 played in ME2. Since Dragon Age 2 wasn't from steam I'm too lazy to attempt to calculate all the time spent in DA2.

Modifié par Torax, 03 juillet 2011 - 03:28 .

[Master Shiori]

@OP

Depends on how much more you want. You said there were still side quests that you left undone. You should definitely try replaying it once more and pick different choices. Maybe try playing as different gender, different class and different personality. Did you mix up your party? If not, are there any companions you found interesting but didn't really use much? Did you side with mages or templars? Did you romance anyone? Most quests have different choices you can make, so maybe try that as well?

There are plenty of things you can change for your second playthrough, provided you enjoyed the game the first time around. If all you're after are achievements, then you might force yourself to play it once more.

Personally, I loved DA2 and have, so far, finished the game 13 times. Once the story DLC comes out I'll make new Hawkes and replay it again.

[Tirfan]

Replaying for the achievements is pretty much the only reason I would go trough DA2 again, or possibly, for me personally making a Hawke whose personality didn't suddenly change for no reason for importing-purposes for DA3, if you are thinking about buying DA3 and are not perhaps happy how Hawke turned out for you (like missing out on companions) then, while it might get boring, it could be worth it to replay it.

^gotta say, Vinix tea, I too have never understood why earning Arishoks respect is hard, I got it purely by accident on the first and only playtrough.

[Vinix Tea]

Tirfan wrote...

Replaying for the achievements is pretty much the only reason I would go trough DA2 again, or possibly, for me personally making a Hawke whose personality didn't suddenly change for no reason for importing-purposes for DA3, if you are thinking about buying DA3 and are not perhaps happy how Hawke turned out for you (like missing out on companions) then, while it might get boring, it could be worth it to replay it.

^gotta say, Vinix tea, I too have never understood why earning Arishoks respect is hard, I got it purely by accident on the first and only playtrough.

Maybe people just think he's harder to please than he actually is, or they just overthink it? To say I got it on my first playthrough, however, would be a lie, but I didn't even read the achievements before I began the game. Had I known it was one, I probably would've gotten it sooner. But i got in on my second playthrough. It was a little obvious to me that the Arishok just desired to be respected, and by being loyal to him, you'd earn his respect in return. I guess figuring out how to go about doing this would be the problem, but I just thought telling him what he wanted to hear was enough. Apparently that was true. ^^;