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[100k]

I like Jacob. Hell, apart from Liara, he's the only character in ME2 that asks Shepard about what makes her tick. His question though is far more direct than Liara's, and gives the player more options to choose from, making it an even better personal moment for Shepard.

[Wrathra]

Jacob is fine. I hate how my femshep acts when she talks to Jacob, so Jacob is avoided like the plague.

[LTiberious]

'Cos he is a subtle passive homosexual with huge emotional issues.

[CeruleanPax]

If he was a homosexual he'd be more interesting. Hes just a replaceable character, sane is good its different in the world of crazy aboard that ship but he just lacks any oomph.

[AngelicMachinery]

LTiberious wrote...

'Cos he is a subtle passive homosexual with huge emotional issues.

Wut is this I don't even.

WAIT... is the prize... you know?

[Cephalopods]

He`s boring, and a hypocrite, with out of character dialogue scenes (like his douchebaggery towards Thane). More simply though, Jacob is just a normal guy, the everyman, and that's his biggest flaw. Squadmates should be interesting people with personality quirks, centered around Shepard as the everyman. You can`t pair two everymen, it just doesn`t work. Its the same reason Kaiden is disliked.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

One of the first things he said: "just let me know when you want me to hit them with the good stuff" couldn't take him seriously after hearing that and I was disappointed that Shep didn't laugh at him for saying it. He did managed to be funny with "the prize" but I've never chose him as a LI so only saw it on youtube. Maybe I could have liked Jacob had it been possible for FemShep to be mates with him but apparently he's irresistible and Shep can't help but flirt with him.

[fenix612]

Because he's b...

[Gavinthelocust]

I've already said my piece about his personality in another thread so I'll bring up how he is gameplay wise. Jacob is useless, sure he has barrier which has saved my ass more than a few times but otherwise he's not a good squad mate. Also he's bloody annoying, if I hear him say "gravity is one mean mother" one more time I'll gouge my eardrums out.
At least he has a more interesting romance path than Kaidan.

[Darksaberexile]

I didn't hate him, but as soon as I recruited another teammate he only left the ship for his LM. There were just too many squad members that were much more useful than him.

[Eromenos]

S.A.K wrote...

I really don't get it. He's a trust worthy level headed guys and fairly useful in combat. But almost no one like him.
Just take a look at this,
Most wanted ME3 character - Jacob got 0%
What are you fighting for - Jacob 1%
Character likes thread - Jacob least likes
But heres a funny thing,
If Virmire happen again - Only poll I've seen Jacob win.

What the hell is wrong with Jacob?

Personally...I feel he talks too big for a character who is useless in combat and has nothing worth saying. Uncharismatic voice, and a hated slow speaker. Exposition-bot in a very dull way. All the energy in his 'tude and theatrics were wasted. Loads of hot-air about every situation, "lest I forget" that ME2 tries to compel an ultra-macho setting. Completely stolid despite his supposedly renegade status in Cerberus, and his inexplicable position among "the best." I wouldn't rely on him for anything to do with fighting besides maintaining the armory.

They went way overboard just to make sure he wouldn't be Kaidan. Jacob's energy is just wrong, thanks to BioWare being hypocrites. He's completely dull, and yet directing the voice actor to put on attitude is supposed to make Jacob compelling? I could've respected BioWare if they had been simply honest and presented him as someone they weren't committed to doing anything with.

[Swimming Ferret]

The bad thing was Jacob was that I wanted him to be a total bro with my main Shep. However, my main Shep is female, so whenever I try to talk to him, she turns hussy, so I shunned him. It was unfortunate, as I was bros with him while playing my male Shep. Jacob is the only character I've ever felt like I was being forced to romance when I spoke to him, so he got the silent treatment. It sucked, since he was actually kinda interesting when speaking with my male Shep.

[lazuli]

Eromenos wrote...

Personally...I feel he talks too big for a character who is useless in combat...

*eye twitch*

Modifié par lazuli, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:01 .

[Prince of Kemet]

MissMaster wrote...

Because he is black.

lol.

I like him he was a bro.

I'm glad someone finally said it.

[Scy Lancer]

He seemed like a watered down Garrus. He has a beef with how the Alliance works so he leaves. They don't do a lot with his character and I think that's why a lot of people don't like him. I think he's got an angle he's working on. I just don't trust the guy. He talks to Shepard almost like he's addressing a superior officer. Maybe because he always salutes when you talk to him. He just seems lacking depth.

[Siansonea]

LTiberious wrote...

'Cos he is a subtle passive homosexual with huge emotional issues.

Can we get the Reapers here sooner? Like, today?

[DaveExclamationMarkYognaut]

Scy Lancer wrote...

He talks to Shepard almost like he's addressing a superior officer.

Isn't he?

[Scy Lancer]

DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

He talks to Shepard almost like he's addressing a superior officer.

Isn't he?

Technicly yes. But Jacob is no longer part of the Alliance and Shepard isn't Cerberus. But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Everyone else seems more relaxed around Shepard. Even Miranda, who is supose to be the loyalist, seems more at ease with him talking.

[Swimming Ferret]

Scy Lancer wrote...

DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...

Scy Lancer wrote...

He talks to Shepard almost like he's addressing a superior officer.

Isn't he?

Technicly yes. But Jacob is no longer part of the Alliance and Shepard isn't Cerberus. But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Everyone else seems more relaxed around Shepard. Even Miranda, who is supose to be the loyalist, seems more at ease with him talking.

But still, he's a marine, first and foremost and it's THE Commander Shepard he's talking to, someone humans have completely elevated and is know to be the first human Spectre, best of the best. Something of an idol amongst the Alliance. It's that level of respect he's portraying through conversations with Shepard, even if he does because a little less solider like later on, he still remains very respectful and even admiring.
With Miranda, she isn't particularly interested in Shepard in that manner; she's always been the best in Cerberus, the one most trusted by the Illusive Man (she's even physically met him, something Shepard hasn't achieved) And unlike Jacob, she'll only salute Shepard right at the end, when the Commander has proven to HER they are a competent leader.
Dr Chakwas and Joker knew Shepard previously, hence why their more relaxed attitudes towards the Commander, since they were already familiar with Shepard before the whole Cerberus crap.

[ReallyRue]

I don't hate him. He's alright. It doesn't help that femShep uses her "take-me-now!" voice for discussing things as mundane as the weather or what to have for lunch every time she talks to Jacob.

I dislike Miranda, but the thing with characters like Miranda is that she has a very strong fanbase that counteracts however many people may dislike her. Same with Tali, Liara, etc. Jacob doesn't have enough fans for that. Doesn't help him that his romance is infamously bad because of "the priiiize".

Modifié par ReallyRue, 04 juillet 2011 - 01:17 .

[Eromenos]

lazuli wrote...

Eromenos wrote...

Personally...I feel he talks too big for a character who is useless in combat...

*eye twitch*

I won't discount your write-up. Looks good to me, but unfortunately I'll never put it to the test because I do not like having to micromanage my squadmates during combat.

Personality-wise, another negative about Jacob seems to be that he's a cop-out extension for Shepard's potential ongoing resistance to being part of Cerberus. IMO, any and all our conversation choices that allow Shepard to verbalize/act-out misgivings about Cerberus felt like afterthoughts that don't call into question the inexplicable overall "story" of ME2. I don't believe for a second that the Alliance would've failed to listen to Shepard's pleas for the colonies.

So long as Jacob is there to whine ineffectively and provide a token sounding-board for Alliance-loyal Shepards, he's just an excuse for the "story" to isolate Shepard from his/her past. Jacob may have cut ties on purpose (or more likely easily manipulated by Cerberus into believing he had good information) is not the same as our lobotomized ME2 involvement with Cerberus.

I have a similar issue with Tali and Garrus in ME2 as well. 2 years etc., blahblahblah, they had very little of consequence to say, and that's with or without comparing them to their old selves. All of them and Shepard(paragon, I suppose) should've demonstrated more active dislike for Cerberus.

Modifié par Eromenos, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:14 .

[billywaffles]

The problem is that he just sucks in combat, thus he loses respect in that way...

[ADLegend21]

billywaffles wrote...

The problem is that he just sucks in combat, thus he loses respect in that way...

um, no, he doesn't. Fully leveled up jacob is one of the most powerful squaddies in the game.

[billywaffles]

Maybe but when hitting 30 you already dislike jacob way too much to give him the benefit of the doubt

[PrinceLionheart]

ADLegend21 wrote...

billywaffles wrote...

The problem is that he just sucks in combat, thus he loses respect in that way...

um, no, he doesn't. Fully leveled up jacob is one of the most powerful squaddies in the game.

It depends on the class really. For an Adept or Sentinel Shepard, he's easily one of the most useful squadmates. For Vanguard (and to a lesser degree Soldier), both he and Jack are rather pointless. Thing about Jacob gameplay wise is that he is a Utility Character, not a direct damage dealer, which is odd since they stuck him with a shotgun.

Gameplay mumbo jumbo aside, I can understand people's compaints with Jacob, at least some of the more common ones. I said it in another thread, but Jacob was too much of an Exposition Character in ME2, spending more time explaining things to Shepard instead of going into depth with his character. Just like Tali and Garrus in ME2, I'm hoping they expand his character more in the third game.

That said, I'm really sick of the "He was mean to Tali" crap. I can understand people disliking the fact that he was rude to Thane, but Jacob casually mentioned there was an A.I. on board. Considering that Joker spent over half the game complaining about EDI, I think it was reasonable for Jacob to give a heads up to a member of a species that had a checkered past with AIs. Not to mention Tali was the hostile party during the entire convo. <_<