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[Casterdael]

I dislike him because he reminds me of Carlton Banks on steroids.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Saphra Deden wrote...
I just wish he would brood less and spill drinks more. Give him a little more of a thirst for battle (like an older, more 
experienced Jenkins maybe) and he'd be a lot more fun.

This.  His personality is also a little bit conflicted with itself, but perhaps that is simply natural.  He disapproves of ruthless methods and is an honorable man at heart, yet he joins Cerberus willingly.  He is meant to be a "stabilizing element" being the least unstable member of the team, yet he is a frequent pessimist.  The super-hero outfit also makes it a little hard to take him seriously as a soldier, but perhaps thats just me not willing to suspend my disbelief quite enough.

I don't hate him though, or even really dislike him, just don't care about him much.  I do hate the way Femshep talks to him though, that almost completely ruined the conversations when playing her.

[LTiberious]

Siansonea II wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

'Cos he is a subtle passive homosexual with huge emotional issues.

Can we get the Reapers here sooner? Like, today?

pardon?

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He is a subtle (!) ******, not an open ******. feel the difference.

[rapscallioness]

Well, I thought he was cool at first.Then I tried to flirt with him once and he said something like, ...if you wanna get friendly with everybody, fine.." What? Don't do me any favors. sheesh.

And yes, I despised the way FemShep always talked to him..."I'm more interested in just talking for a bit.." ack! I ended up avoiding him like the plague just so I wouldn't have to hear her say that...like that...

[Creativechick113]

I like Jacob! I think he's a good character who is well developed. He stays true to himself at all times, which if you look around is rare for a lot of characters in both Mass Effect games. I also like that his baggage weighs a little less than everyone else's as well.

BUT......

What REALLY bothers me is the way my FemShep acts around Jacob... It's gross how she becomes a teenage girl. I mean..... really? My FemShep is a badass. She would never turn into that for any man...

Just saying...

[Destroy Raiden_]

For me it's not him I don't like it's fshep with him I don't like and by that I mean she force hits on him! I hated that from convo 1 she's like, " I want you Mr. Taylor" and I'm like, " Whoa! Stop it right now!" Yet her lack of control only made it worse so I completely do not talk to him at all the entire game! So I know he worked with Miranda and saved the council and I know his dad is a freak beyond that he's a nice guy working for an evil organization and that's it.

It's a shame fshep couldn't stop harassing him long enough for me to know him better. He seems like a very decent person in fact the only decent person in the whole game that isn't over the top he's average but that average demur makes him stand out to me.

I hope BW will actually let me get to know him minus the shep hot dialogue.

[BubbleDncr]

I don't like him because when I talk to every other squad member, my femShep says, "tell me about yourself." All business like.

When she talks to Jacob, she goes "I want to talk about yoooouuu now." *wink*wink*
And then then all of her in-conversation dialog responses are also pretty flirty.

I just don't like being forced to flirt with him.

[DarkDragon777]

He's a boring, cliche soldier boy who has no personality. Although I like how he distrusts Cerberus and the Alliance and follows his own path.

[Merlin 47]

Ieldra2 wrote...

A few reasons why he is disliked:

(1) Standard male reaction to a possible competitor (I suspect this to be the no.1 reason for male players)
(2) Tali fans don't like his comment to Tali about EDI
(3) Miranda fans don't like that he had something with her
(4) Thane fans don't like Jacob's reaction to him.
(5) The "priize" comment (I suspect this to be the no. 1 reason for female players)

It's quite sad, since his romance, apart from the "prize" line, is very good. It took six playthroughs for me to try his romance, and I was really surprised by it.

I think the general preference for non-human LIs exists because we apply different standards to humans in terms of attractivity. Tali and Garrus don't have a face to judge for its appearance, so that aspect gets mostly ignored by the players, while in humans it's something you select by *and* both Miranda's and Jacob's faces have their problems at times.

Edit:
Some interesting correlations:
People who like Jacob also tend to like
*Kaidan (female player preference and human LI preference I guess)
*Samara
*Morinth (yes, both of them, a mysterious result - perhaps a little "rooting for the underdog" in it)
*Miranda (likely human LI preference, still somewhat surprising)

There are no particular correlations for people who dislike Jacob except a very minor one with Tali fans.

Uhh....I don't fit this profile...despite being a Tali fan AND a Thane fan.  I think Jacob is AWESOME!  When Tali was chewing him out after being nice to her, I was like WTF Tali?  I understand both sides of the argument between Jacob and Thane, however.  And I think "the prize" comment is the number one reason for all players.

I also like Jacob, but hate Kaidan (too bland and boring) and can't stand Morinth.  Miranda grew on me after a while, but my initial reaction was "no thanks".

[Lord Foreshadow]

I like the idea behind him being there, throughout ME2 I felt more like Duncan from Dragon Age, or Colonel Fury recruiting the Avengers, where every character is some kind of crazy superhero in their own right. Some even overshadow Shepard (which was brilliant), but Jacob was always just a trusty sidekick. So was Miranda, but she had more personality, breasts and high heels.

He's not a tactical genius or super soldier or anything like that, he's down to earth and can hold his own and is loyal. He just comes off as mundane and ininteresting next to, say, Jack or Samara. I never used him because I actively wanted to hear what some characters would have to say in certain situations, and Jacob never had those situations. He wasn't even necessary, seeing as through there were two other "vanguard" characters.

[Jademoon121]

He's the Kaidan of ME2 for me; except Kaidan was useful and had a few good moments, barely though.

[ApplesauceBandit]

He's boring. The only thing great about him is: "The prize" meme that started.

[RGC_Ines]

Can't say I dislike him, becouse I don't know Jacob too good. The reason? The way my Fem Shep is talking to him. It's sound like she want to jump into his bed right now. So after I get Normandy Upgrade and Jacob's LM I never talk to him again.

[rapscallioness]

I can't help but wonder who wrote and directed that dialogue for femshep....and actually thought that it was okay? thought that femshep's would not be...grossed out?

I guess these things happen, but note to BW:
femshep is not a hooker; she's a hero.
she's not a sex maniac, she's a romantic
give her a reason to want to pursue a relationship
and give her a chance to get to know the character

earlier i said jacob was rude to femshep.."if you wanna get friendly w/ everybody..", but heck, now that i think about it, that was the reaction of a dude that just got hit on by a hooker.

[kri83]

He KILLED HIS FATHER in front of my eyes! !!! how can i like him?

[The dead fish]

mrsph wrote...

Several reasons probably.

1.) He is normal and isn't as much of a force of personality as the other characters
2.) Femshep's dialog with him is horrible. Seriously
3.) His skill set compared to everyone else's is lackluster unless you work a little to get it to work
4.) Switches personality with Miranda after Freedom's Progress. Turning him from a nice, reasonable person to, "Again!? Go away!"

Despite all that I don't think he is the most hated character, unpopular (though I think Kaidan is equally as popular) yes, but unpopularity doesn't usually translate to hatred. Just apathy.

This.

[randomcheeses]

RGC_Ines wrote...

Can't say I dislike him, becouse I don't know Jacob too good. The reason? The way my Fem Shep is talking to him. It's sound like she want to jump into his bed right now. So after I get Normandy Upgrade and Jacob's LM I never talk to him again.

Ditto. I cannot understand it either. For every other part of the game Jennifer Hale does a magnificent job as Shepard. Then you go talk to Jacob and  it's like : um, where did my badass marine go and who is this pod person that's replaced her? It's especially weird if you're going in a romance with Garrus/Thane or staying commited to Kaidan/Liara. Like, what the hell Shepard? You're deeply in love with Other LI. Why are you talking to Jacob like that?

[Kadzin]

I loved the whole Priiiiize thing, but other then that he's so boring -.-

[pritchy]

He had his chance with my Miranda,
hes out and im in she is mine now, also i cant take the guy seriously after "THE PIIIIZE"
Then again its not much worse than Shep's rape grin

[S.A.K]

pritchy wrote...

He had his chance with my Miranda,
hes out and im in she is mine now, also i cant take the guy seriously after "THE PIIIIZE"
Then again its not much worse than Shep's rape grin

Can someone tell me when that Shepard grin happens? I can't remember.

[VolusNamedBob]

Jacob is someone who I don't hate or love, he's impossible to respond to. He's like a rock you find in a path, you can't love it or hate it. . . it's a rock.

[happy_daiz]

I like Jacob. I think he is very forgettable, when compared to his other squadmates, but if you give him a chance, and a good spin on his skills, he can be quite useful.

In my most recent pt, Jacob was my LI. Personally, I started to get a bit tired of, "we've got a gooooood thing going..." blah. Seriously, that's the best writing we could get? I think BW did Jacob a disservice with that horrible dialogue. Don't get me started on his teeth.

[rpgfan321]

He is a good character. I did like him, BUT like some have said he is very forgettable.
I mean his introduction is ducking behind cover from mechs! He gets no good cutscenes compared to other party members.

Miranda comes out shooting Wilson outright at Lazarus station (that's like wow); we see Zaeed kicking a Batarian's face with his boot; Grunt headbutts Shepard against a wall; Thane just drops and sweeps the room; Legion gets a choir fanfare... and the list goes on and on.
I do not remember Jacob ever having solitary cutscenes like others'.

I don't think it is the writer's or the voice actor's fault, but just the presentation of Jacob is really - and I emphasize on REALLY - lackluster. Here is to hoping he gets a good cutscene to introduce himself back on ME3.