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[Uccio]

NicoA wrote...

Well - the games was not a total disappointment gaming wise (average at best, there are, technically far worse games out there), it felt more like an insult to me. I am 36 years old, i am gaming, i BUY games and i usually dont wait for lower prices. However - i am not interested in something "awesome happening" when i press a button i dont need tons a blood, i can read and i can figure things out. That is exactly why i play RPGs. That is why i play BW games. I am into story, atmosphere, companions... all that is missing IMHO. DLC is not an option since with DA2 since i doubt that it can be fixed. I am not angry - but there are better things i could have done with my money.

Now, i could simply marking it off as a blooper but BW/EA is pretty consistent in their statements concerning getting a wider audience. For me it looks like thats how its gonna be - well god luck with that - without me then. I`ll monitor ME3, but will not preorder - in fact - i used my 80$ on a BBQ with my friends already and that was well spent. I`ll probably will take a lock at DA3 too when the time comes - but will wait for player response before making a decision. But i am not desperate to see DA3.

x 2, same here.

[RPGmom28]

It has grown on me. Obviously it's not what I wanted or expected it to be, but it has characters and voice acting that I miss sometimes and have to visit, and that's what keeps a game in my "current plays" bin.
My biggest disappointments remain the inability to change the ending, not being able to dress companions, and having to go to a character's home to talk with them. I really missed interrogating Alistair on the road. But I absolutely adore Aveline as a bff and her storyline, and Fenris and Anders are entertaining romances.
So, hoping for a strong, epic DA3 that is more like DA:O, but also hoping that those compelling characters return.
As an aside, I'd love to be able to delete characters in DA2's character list. Many of them were trial characters I ditched.

[Cyberarmy]

NicoA wrote...

Well - the games was not a total disappointment gaming wise (average at best, there are, technically far worse games out there), it felt more like an insult to me. I am 36 years old, i am gaming, i BUY games and i usually dont wait for lower prices. However - i am not interested in something "awesome happening" when i press a button i dont need tons a blood, i can read and i can figure things out. That is exactly why i play RPGs. That is why i play BW games. I am into story, atmosphere, companions... all that is missing IMHO. DLC is not an option since with DA2 since i doubt that it can be fixed. I am not angry - but there are better things i could have done with my money.

Now, i could simply marking it off as a blooper but BW/EA is pretty consistent in their statements concerning getting a wider audience. For me it looks like thats how its gonna be - well good luck with that - without me then. I`ll monitor ME3, but will not preorder - in fact - i used my 80$ on a BBQ with my friends already and that was well spent. I`ll probably will take a lock at DA3 too when the time comes - but will wait for player response before making a decision. But i am not desperate to see DA3.

Now ,that's well said sir!
İ spent my canceled DA2 “Signature Edition”  preorder and ME3 Collecters Edition preorder bucks at a beach party drinking till morning.
Well spent indeed!

[Sanguinerin]

I still haven't gotten a second character through Act I. I've tried several times since release week, and it still hasn't felt like something I want to fully put myself through again.

I'm still hanging around on the forums to catch news of the DLC, although I mostly spend my time now on the Mass Effect boards. I want to keep playing in the Dragon Age realm, so I'm hoping to hear a positive reaction toward future projects. Only more time will tell, I suppose. I sure don't want them rushing anything else again.

[Carn Dum]

A Bioware game that I played during the first 2 or 3 weeks after its release and never touched again since... that pretty much sums it up. I never was angry at anyone, just hugely disappointed and still am. If the new DLC gets very good reviews I might buy and start playing the game again. If not, DA2 is already history for me. From someone who played DA:O, ME 1 & 2, Jade Empire, KOTOR and the Baldur's Gate games multiple times (in some cases even finished them dozens of times), that should be saying a lot.

[MingWolf]

NicoA wrote...

Now, i could simply marking it off as a blooper but BW/EA is pretty consistent in their statements concerning getting a wider audience. For me it looks like thats how its gonna be - well good luck with that - without me then. I`ll monitor ME3, but will not preorder - in fact - i used my 80$ on a BBQ with my friends already and that was well spent. I`ll probably will take a lock at DA3 too when the time comes - but will wait for player response before making a decision. But i am not desperate to see DA3.

I think Bioware/EA really needs to define, internally, what this wider audience is.  DA2 might have attracted some new fans, as they claim, but I am certain that they probably lost a huge chunk of their old fans in the process.  From the customer feedback I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if they lost more than they gained.  Before, from what I read, I was under the impression that they were shooting for the CoD crowd, where many-a-gamers dwell.  If it were true, then I just have no idea what they were thinking.  I think the FPS crowd would be rather insulted by a half-baked game simplified for them for the purpose of attracting them to the realm of RPGs.  Just a thought. 

[Feanor_II]

I have nothing to cool down, I felt very disapointed with the game, that's all, the comparisons with DA:O got worse when after beating it started a new DA:O game.

[KristofCoulson]

I expect I will buy DA:3 if it comes out and looks decent. I doubt I will be pre-ordering it though.

[Wonderllama4]

I still love Bioware and had a great time playing Dragon Age 2.

I will buy Dragon Age 3, Mass Effect 3, and maybe even Star Wars: The Old Republic, even though I don't play PC games.

[Vicious]

It's been a while. DA2 has some good things, [i like the voiced protagonist, and the art style so everything is distinctive. I like the Grey Wardens actually wear Grey Warden armor this time around] but it's creative faults are tremendous. I realize those faults are subjective, but the game simply feels rushed, the hardcore recycling of areas is terrible, etc etc ad nauseam.

I have Faith Bioware will do right in DA3. For now, though, I will just look forward to ME3 and the end of a saga.

[ApostleinTriumph]

No. Enemies spawning throughout the fight still enrages me. The game has gotten to a joke level of difficulty after this last patch, but man, it was a lot of work to take on 40 guys with a party of just four....

User interface is terrible. It is so watered down, feels dull and boring. What happened to the greatly detailed Origins UI? It is replaced with a consolized version of terribleness (not sure if that's a word) Just look at how terrible ability icons, menus and party interface looks.

The story was okay, but still, I'd prefer to be a Gray Warden or at least someone closer to him in terms of importance rather than a guy who is trying to be wealthy and all of a sudden getting drawn into a conflict.

[Tirfan]

^ Don't remind me of the interface.. it was so horrible that I gave up reading the codex-entries entirely because of it. And I'm a lore fanatic who gathered & read every single codex-entry in Origins, so this took a lot of fun out of the game for me.

[Bearclaw]

Lingering waiting for ein-masse lreleases of DLC's.

Acually, this game grows the more you play it! I have not yet played a game with such a smooth interface its like hot knife in butter on highest settings, a real beauty! So coders for this game is definately top notch skillz of the world! There are flaws already mentioned but these are not game killers. Blame those on EA id say.

So i really would like MORE content SOON

On 3rd playthrough i still stumble on new events and dialogue.

Just wish there were lesser cranky space in battles and more wider areas, i would love a huge dark misty forest to explore like there were in nwn.. Havent seen this in either dao nor da2 sadly.

You folks that havent really played through it more detaily, please do!

[ApostleinTriumph]

Bearclaw wrote...

Lingering waiting for ein-masse lreleases of DLC's.

Acually, this game grows the more you play it! I have not yet played a game with such a smooth interface its like hot knife in butter on highest settings, a real beauty! So coders for this game is definately top notch skillz of the world! There are flaws already mentioned but these are not game killers. Blame those on EA id say.

So i really would like MORE content SOON

On 3rd playthrough i still stumble on new events and dialogue.

Just wish there were lesser cranky space in battles and more wider areas, i would love a huge dark misty forest to explore like there were in nwn.. Havent seen this in either dao nor da2 sadly.

You folks that havent really played through it more detaily, please do!

I don't need to play it one more time to realize how terrible UI is, if you open the skill tree in DA:O, you see a tome with parchement pages, with nice illustrations of skills in a colourful fashion and that cool fonts.

If you do the same thing in DA2, you meet a page coated in red/black colours with totally uninteresting and uninspiring skill icons, like something you could draw on a piece of napkin in 5minutes, with a  boring font presented in a boring way. It screams, "Must...dumb down....the game.....casuals....console gamers.....anything artistic is too hard to understand for them......."

[Eliamor]

While I played DA2 I was also finishing my first playthrough in DA:O. My reaction to the both game endings were completely different and express quite well whatI feel about the two games in the franchise.
When I finished DA:O I was so proud! I really felt like I had accomplished something and that I cared about the destiny of my Warden and the companions. I was so moved by the endgame that I almost cried!
My reactions when I was playing the third act in DA2 could be described with one meaning: "Isn't this mess over yet?" I felt nothing as I set the difficulty to casual and rushed through the last two hours only to end up with a disappointing ending and a feeling of... nothing.
For me, that and the reused maps is the biggest reason I uninstalled it as soon as I finished it.

I think that I may take it out from my shelf sometime later, when I have forgotten about everything I didn't like about the game. Now, a few months after the DA-tragedy (if you can call it that), I still feel disappointed and sad when I think of what DA2 could have been but wasn't to me.

When I played Origins I could feel that someone really put his soul into that game and made Thedas a world that was living, full of mystery and marvellous events that never will be forgotten. Just like a really good fairy tale or novel (like Michael Ende's books). A world I could visit time and again and still find something completely new!
The magic Origins had just wasn't there in DA2. It was like someone stole the soul from the DA universe and left an empty shell.

As you may have figured out by now, I still haven't got over the disappointment. Sure, I can play a game with big flaws in the game mechanics and design and still love it (e.g. Oblivion) but if the game has no soul or good story I don't see the point. Sure, the companions were great and I like the fast-paced combat in DA2, but since everything from design of UI (which may have been well coded but were so generic and boring that I started to hate it) to the city of Kirkwall had the personality of a stone, I will probably not enjoy another playthrough.

[hugafella]

I played though DA2 once and then I started a new one and I didn't even get halfway through before stopping. I haven't touched it since. It was a okay but for me the story didn't draw me in like DA:O. I will wait for a ultimate edition to play through it again depending on the reviews of the DLC. I look forward to DA3 but I don't think I will pre order it though.

Modifié par hugafella, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:04 .

[PaulSX]

I still feel DA2 is a fun game despite its obvious flaws. the overly reused maps and linear story just can not draw me into it again. I started like 3 characters after my first full play through but none of them is finished I enjoyed my first play through though

[sphinxess]

I feel more relaxed I suppose. Still trust Bioware and figure they either move to the ME action side of the RPG in which case I'll wave byby or move back towards the classic RPG side in which case I'll continue with DA.EIther way is a lot better for them than the inbetween mess of DA2.

[nicethugbert]

Looks like a lot of lives were ruined by this game. Oh well, there is more where you all came from. A fool and his money are easily parted. A sucker is born every minute.

Incidentally, is there a game mod to increase the attack and movement speeds?

Modifié par nicethugbert, 06 juillet 2011 - 01:09 .

[Saintthanksgiving]

I still havent finished the game. Still hate it too much

tried to force myself to finish it.... lasted about ten minutes.

It took me a month and a bored afternoon to even watch the ending on youtube.

the red kryptonite thing just burns my rear end.

[erynnar]

NicoA wrote...

Well - the games was not a total disappointment gaming wise (average at best, there are, technically far worse games out there), it felt more like an insult to me. I am 36 years old, i am gaming, i BUY games and i usually dont wait for lower prices. However - i am not interested in something "awesome happening" when i press a button i dont need tons a blood, i can read and i can figure things out. That is exactly why i play RPGs. That is why i play BW games. I am into story, atmosphere, companions... all that is missing IMHO. DLC is not an option since with DA2 since i doubt that it can be fixed. I am not angry - but there are better things i could have done with my money.

Now, i could simply marking it off as a blooper but BW/EA is pretty consistent in their statements concerning getting a wider audience. For me it looks like thats how its gonna be - well good luck with that - without me then. I`ll monitor ME3, but will not preorder - in fact - i used my 80$ on a BBQ with my friends already and that was well spent. I`ll probably will take a lock at DA3 too when the time comes - but will wait for player response before making a decision. But i am not desperate to see DA3.

Very well said! And for me as well (add four years to the age). I like games I have to think and pay attention in. I like story, atmosphere, puzzles and character compaions. I don't mind reading. And it doesn't have to be flash and glam.

And I will wait and see what others say about DA3. I will not pre-order again. Once bitten, twice shy.

[KnightofPhoenix]

How do I feel op? More and more leaning towards indifference, not just of the DA universe, but of ME as well (a large part is due to decreasing marginal utility). Especially now that an alternative showed up for me.

Still, not completely indifferent for now, my interest could still be caught.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 06 juillet 2011 - 03:12 .

[Keladis]

I tried to get it a chance, but I just don't see my opinion changing.

[NicoA]

MingWolf wrote...

I think Bioware/EA really needs to define, internally, what this wider audience is.  DA2 might have attracted some new fans, as they claim, but I am certain that they probably lost a huge chunk of their old fans in the process.  From the customer feedback I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if they lost more than they gained.  Before, from what I read, I was under the impression that they were shooting for the CoD crowd, where many-a-gamers dwell.  If it were true, then I just have no idea what they were thinking.  I think the FPS crowd would be rather insulted by a half-baked game simplified for them for the purpose of attracting them to the realm of RPGs.  Just a thought. 

+1

Absolutly true. It is (in total) very interesting to see how the gaming industrie is developing. There is less and less gaming time (additionally filled with more and more "movie" sequences) and more focus on visual effects then content. The conditions of games at release time is getting worse and more than once i`ve seen canceling support before the game is actually fully patched. (NOT BW THOUGH) Additonally - DLC systems, questionable online registration + online restaints, activation limitations.... in short - i personally have the feeling to get less and less for my money. 

It would also be interesting to see who in the gaming industrie is actually involved in taking this road. The publisher? The copyright holder? The share holders? The developer? Or is it us - the gamer - espacially since i read/heard somewhere that DA2 is actually the result of player feedback wanting more action. Well, i browsed the DA:O forum too and i could not find thousands of complains about equiping your other team members as an excuse to cut that out or that you have to play in too many different environments...

Hope that wasn't too off-topic now...