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Phaedon wrote...

I know that the people who vote on the Facebook polls and tweet on Twitter are but parts of the target crowd, but in comparison to BSN?

Heh.


I don't know if the facebook poll is entirely reliable, I know a few of my girlfriend's friends voted even though they know nothing about the game or Tali.

(They voted because my girlfriend posted the poll to everybody in her friends list.)

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So, what's the er, logic of voting on polls that you know nothing about?

Still better than BSN, I am almost certain that 95% of the people here, including me, have developed some sort of psychological issues during or before posting here.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

I know that the people who vote on the Facebook polls and tweet on Twitter are but parts of the target crowd, but in comparison to BSN?

Heh.


I don't know if the facebook poll is entirely reliable, I know a few of my girlfriend's friends voted even though they know nothing about the game or Tali.


Majority in the poll on the bsn =  " There are not enough votes to take them into account. "

majority on facebook with more than 20 000 people vote.  = " We can not trust those who vote and we do not really know who they are. "

So ? What can we do for you sir ? Agreed however " not entirely reliable ", because by definition a poll is never entirely reliable, whatever it is.

I don't know if the facebook poll is entirely reliable, I know a few
of my girlfriend's friends voted even though they know nothing about
the game or Tali.

(They voted because my girlfriend posted the poll to everybody in her friends list.)


Yeah Of course, 20,000 people will convince all their friends to say yes just for answer to a small question. Very credible.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 06 juillet 2011 - 06:55 .


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They should show her face but make it exclusive to the romance. And maybe they can give the option to fade the screen to black like an interupt for those who don't want to see it. I think she should be beautiful but she'll act like she's ulgy and selfconsious about her apperence since no one's ever seen her face. The whole shy thing we all love about tali. It stays true to the character and would be the best for her character.

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And yeah, don't worry too much about it, they are measuring the climate to see if they will get the support they need, or if they need to make what they have decided on more subtle.

I doubt that they expect a poll to decide what they should do.

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Before the Quarian Race was exiled to their suits, they were said to be the most beautiful race or something like that.

I doubt they're portraying them as 'Ugly', but who cares? Tali is Tali, show her face.

People will have to accept that as her face, or mod the game to change it.

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Do you think the "Mystery of Tali" fans know about the Facebook poll by now? I sure do.

Isn't this their opportunity to flood a wide-ranging poll with passionate votes and overwhelm the Unmaskers with hard numbers? You bet it is.

The Mysterians can rig the results as easily as the Unmaskers can.  So, Mysterians--start clicking.

Modifié par Aquilas, 06 juillet 2011 - 07:21 .


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jamesp81 wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I hope she look like this
Image IPB

I'd hit that!! no joke.


Must've been one of HR Giger's more sane days.

Quarian should look like that,I couldn't find the male pic so I guess I put this Image IPB

Image IPB

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Aquilas wrote...

Do you think the "Mystery of Tali" fans know about the Facebook poll by now? I sure do.

Isn't this their opportunity to flood a wide-ranging poll with passionate votes and overwhelm the Unmaskers with hard numbers? You bet it is.

Yeah, well we don't want to use this unfair methods...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

Quarian should look like that,I couldn't find the male pic so I guess I put this

Image IPB

I'd hit that.

Modifié par omskman, 06 juillet 2011 - 07:28 .


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*Sorry, double post*

Modifié par Aquilas, 06 juillet 2011 - 07:37 .


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omskman wrote...

Aquilas wrote...

Do you think the "Mystery of Tali" fans know about the Facebook poll by now? I sure do.

Isn't this their opportunity to flood a wide-ranging poll with passionate votes and overwhelm the Unmaskers with hard numbers? You bet it is.

Yeah, well we don't want to use this unfair methods...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

Quarian should look like that,I couldn't find the male pic so I guess I put this

Image IPB

I'd hit that.


Priceless!

Modifié par Aquilas, 06 juillet 2011 - 07:35 .


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omskman wrote...

I'd hit that.

With what?

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Phaedon wrote...

omskman wrote...

I'd hit that.

With what?


Depends...

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Aquilas wrote...

xentar wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Once we reveal her THAT is what Tali looks like. No more guessing or hoping or whatever.

Isn't this what many people actually want?


Yes.

I want to see what the Quarians race looks like, so I can be on equal footing with Asari and Krogan who have home videos of what Quarians look like outside the suits, much less any historical records.

But if I can see only one Quarian face, I want it to be Tali's.  Period.  Dot.


Indeed.
Show Tali's face, please. All that "mystery" and "not living up to fans' expectations" isn't enough to convince me, that just sound like an excuse to avoid doing anything.
Will all respect due, Mr. Priestly, I don't want to continue "guessing" or "hoping". And I'm pretty sure that many people think like me.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 06 juillet 2011 - 08:16 .


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I'm ok with showing her face.

Let me quote Reggie on this one:
"Image IPB"

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 06 juillet 2011 - 08:27 .


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I'm more interested in seeing a volus without the suit. Maybe we'll get to visit their homeworld in a side mission? Please BioWare? Pretty please?!

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Sylvianus wrote...

If they really made ​​their decision, why a poll on facebook ? And ask the question? Is this really true ? :P


Marketing, of course! This builds up hype for the game, no matter what your view on the situation.

Aquilas wrote...

Do you think the "Mystery of Tali" fans know about the Facebook poll by now? I sure do.

Isn't
this their opportunity to flood a wide-ranging poll with passionate
votes and overwhelm the Unmaskers with hard numbers? You bet it is.

The Mysterians can rig the results as easily as the Unmaskers can.  So, Mysterians--start clicking.


Are there 15,000 of them? On facebook? I dunno. People may make excuses for the people participating in the poll (because they don't like the result), but 20,000 people on Facebook no matter how they got to the poll is way, way more accurate to the fanbase than the maybe 200 people we've scrounged up here for the largest poll I've seen (In which the numbers are around 75/25 for unmasking).

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 06 juillet 2011 - 09:19 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: I hope we do not reveal her face.

Why not? Well, no matter what she looks like under there or how well a job the team does with the reveal, it will never live up to what I personally have in my own imagination. Don't get me wrong, I know if they choose to reveal her face, they will put a lot of time and effort into making it the moment fans have been waiting for. However, it just won't live up to what I have in my mind's eye.

Take, say, the Harry Potter films. I read the books before seeing the movies and even though I think the cast did an awesome job in the roles they were cast for, they weren't exactly what I had envisioned Dumbledore or house elves looking like, or Snape or dragons sounding like, etc. What was done was awesome work, but it was (for me) just a tiny bit wrong at the same time.

Before Tali's face is revealed there is huge speculation on what she looks like. Is she pretty or ugly, is she humanoid or more alien, nose or no nose, eye and skin color, etc. All the things fans have been guessing and speculating and fan arting for years now. Once we reveal her THAT is what Tali looks like. No more guessing or hoping or whatever. I know that if her face is revealed many people will be happy, but I know there will be those who are upset because we will have "got it wrong". We won't have gotten it wrong as we are the creators and what we say goes (yeah, I know how that sounds, but you get what I mean), but for those people we will have gotten it wrong as we won't have lived up to their vision of what she looks like.

So for me, I hope they don't reveal her face. I also get why people want to see it, but I prefer to leave it up to my imagination to determine her look. Still, I have no say in whether her face is shown or not. Casey and the team will weigh all the pros and cons and make the right choice and we'll all see whether they reveal it or not. Stay tuned. {smilie}



{smilie}


I'm so glad that we share the same view on this.

Also I think it's a smart artistic choice as well, seeing as how they already have established the quarians so well visually with the faceless visors, redesigning them like that in favor of something that already works.

Mass effect has a visual style about it that I like and keeping that style as intact as possible is something i'd like to see. (unlike DA2 where I welcomed the esthetic changes to something a bit more unique, seeing as I was never a fan of DA:O rather bland visual style.) This is something i've always admired about the HALO series visual style as well.

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Phaedon wrote...

I am almost certain that 95% of the people here, including me, have developed some sort of psychological issues during or before posting here.


lol'd. This is so damn true that it's funny yet sad at the same time.

Modifié par Luc0s, 06 juillet 2011 - 09:36 .


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Sylvianus wrote...
Yeah Of course, 20,000 people will convince all their friends to say yes just for answer to a small question. Very credible.

22,807 people. :P


Edit: 22,813.


22,821


22,846

Modifié par Spartanburger, 06 juillet 2011 - 10:23 .


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I don't know about this expectation everyone is talking about is true I mean, I don't really care what she looks, as long as I get to see how she looks! I wont go berserk if she's not the cute/attractive/hot/whatever. I'll just be happy to have seen her face! Does everyone really have super high expectations about her looks?

Because people seem to think that if people don't like the way she looks, the world will end. It's not -that- serious! :)

Modifié par WinterJedi, 06 juillet 2011 - 10:02 .


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'Yes' continues to dominate on ME3's Facebook Poll:

http://www.facebook.com/masseffect

19,863 Yea ---- 3,258 Nay.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: I hope we do not reveal her face.

Why not? Well, no matter what she looks like under there or how well a job the team does with the reveal, it will never live up to what I personally have in my own imagination. Don't get me wrong, I know if they choose to reveal her face, they will put a lot of time and effort into making it the moment fans have been waiting for. However, it just won't live up to what I have in my mind's eye.

Take, say, the Harry Potter films. I read the books before seeing the movies and even though I think the cast did an awesome job in the roles they were cast for, they weren't exactly what I had envisioned Dumbledore or house elves looking like, or Snape or dragons sounding like, etc. What was done was awesome work, but it was (for me) just a tiny bit wrong at the same time.

Before Tali's face is revealed there is huge speculation on what she looks like. Is she pretty or ugly, is she humanoid or more alien, nose or no nose, eye and skin color, etc. All the things fans have been guessing and speculating and fan arting for years now. Once we reveal her THAT is what Tali looks like. No more guessing or hoping or whatever. I know that if her face is revealed many people will be happy, but I know there will be those who are upset because we will have "got it wrong". We won't have gotten it wrong as we are the creators and what we say goes (yeah, I know how that sounds, but you get what I mean), but for those people we will have gotten it wrong as we won't have lived up to their vision of what she looks like.

So for me, I hope they don't reveal her face. I also get why people want to see it, but I prefer to leave it up to my imagination to determine her look. Still, I have no say in whether her face is shown or not. Casey and the team will weigh all the pros and cons and make the right choice and we'll all see whether they reveal it or not. Stay tuned. :)



:devil:


I'm sure I'm not the only one who has said so, but I think the perfect solution would be to allow the player to make the choice.

Go through the time and effort to create an "official" face, but only enable players who have romanced (and not cheated on) Tali to be able to see it. Even then, allow the player a choice regarding whether or not they want to see it. Granted, it'll be plastered all over the internet 0.00003 seconds after the game is released, but that doesn't meana a player *must* see Tali's face in-game.

Stephen King did a great job with this at the end of the Dark Tower series. He ended the storyline in the way he wanted, but he also understood that the audience might want to see more. He created more, but sealed the pages at the end of the book with a physical lock that required the reader to tear it. King warned that the additional pages were "canon," but that the reader might not want to know that part of the story. Naturally, almost everyone read them, but I'm sure there were some who didn't... wanting to preserve the story the way it was originally laid out.

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*sigh* Once again I feel the masses are going to end up ruining the Mass Effect experience for me. I think there are far too many people out there simply voting "yes" without really thinking about it. And mark my words, I'll bet there'll be more disappointment in the end if they do.

To me showing Tali's face would ruin the experience much like the versions of Alien and Jaws where they show too much of their respective monsters.

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Does anyone know if any of the betting agencies are putting odds on this?