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[Cirno]

I'm not petitioning for a Steamworks-enabled Mass Effect 3, but I am curious about the idea of making it so that retail copies of Mass Effect 3 require Steam to play.

Personally, I think it's a decent idea, seeing that it makes it so that upon activation, losing your discs becomes nothing more than a minor inconvenience, and that upon purchasing DLC, you automatically install the necessary files onto your game.

[Funkcase]

No.

I dont like needing to rely on the internet to play games. And suprisingly, not everyone has the interent.  Steam should be a option, not a requirement.

Modifié par Funkcase, 03 juillet 2011 - 07:56 .

[raz3r]

It has already been confirmed that the PC version will use Origin, I don't even know if the game will be available on Steam actually. Personally I own all of my recent games on Steam, one of the few exception is Mass Effect because I bought the retail CE and because the series does not support Steamworks. I hope Origin won't be that bad, right now it is just a renamed version of EA Downloader wich, trust me, is not cool at all. So should ME3 use Steamworks I'd be really happy. Unfortunately that won't happen.

[KingNothing125]

Something tells me that the advent of EA's Origin service is going to preclude ME3 from being on Steam (let alone make Steam a requirement ala Fallout: New Vegas).

Which is kinda lame, cuz I got ME1 and ME2 on Steam.

[KirkyX]

Funkcase wrote...

No.

I dont like needing to rely on the internet to play games. And suprisingly, not everyone has the interent.  Steam should be a option, not a requirement.

Even if it doesn't use Steamworks, it'll almost certainly require some kind of online activation to play. It's not as if you need a constant internet connection to play Steam games; Steamworks works like any other kind of DRM. You have to download the game (or install it from a disk), then play it once - playing it once activates it, allowing you to play the game with Steam in offline mode.

But, yeah, as everyone else has already said, the way EA's been pimping Origin lately makes it very, very unlikely that they'd make Valve's service a requirement for Mass Effect 3. Hell, there's a fair chance the game won't even be available on Steam.

Modifié par KirkyX, 03 juillet 2011 - 08:09 .

[ErichHartmann]

DRM free would be the ideal solution. I don't care about a 1 time internet activation but can't stand it when I'm required to use a specific program. I have no problem with Steam when I buy a game digitally from them but forced Steamworks for certain boxed games? Bleh.....and Origin won't be any better.

[k177sh0t]

Does Steam support dedicated servers? 3

Because if there's multiplayer on ME3, which likely there will be, yes. Peer to peer is quite irritating.

[k177sh0t]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I hate Steam.

Your playing ME2 on Xbox 360?

[Sheppard-Commander]

Why would you want a strictly single player game to require being connected to the internet? It would be one thing if you where asking for steam enabled, but you are suggesting ME3 requiring it...seems like a bass-ackwards suggestion.

[Raygereio]

raz3r_ wrote...
It has already been confirmed that the PC version will use Origin.

What? Also the retail version, not just the digital download?

[sighineedname]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Why would you want a strictly single player game to require being connected to the internet? It would be one thing if you where asking for steam enabled, but you are suggesting ME3 requiring it...seems like a bass-ackwards suggestion.

Steam only requires a connection for the initial setup. After that you can play offline without a problem.

[Epic Legion]

Steam is best thing that could happen to PC.

Does Steam support dedicated servers? 3

Obviously yes (not like it does matter, EA never uses Steamworks).

[Sheppard-Commander]

sighineedname wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Why would you want a strictly single player game to require being connected to the internet? It would be one thing if you where asking for steam enabled, but you are suggesting ME3 requiring it...seems like a bass-ackwards suggestion.

Steam only requires a connection for the initial setup. After that you can play offline without a problem.

Still have yet to read one remotely valid reason as to why it should be required . That has to be one of the worst suggestions I've seen on these boards yet. Because you (not necessarily you) use a certain social gaming program - everyone should have to?

Yeah, no thanks. Bioware, like most companies, will be looking for ways to broaden the access of their games to players not restrict them or force them to use some third-party program that neither EA or Bioware has much of a vested interest in. If you want steam enabled ME3 thats fine, I can totally understand that...but I cant understand steam required  ME3, especially since EA is pushing their own alternative as an option.

[iEscaflowne]

Funkcase wrote...

No.

I dont like needing to rely on the internet to play games. And suprisingly, not everyone has the interent.  Steam should be a option, not a requirement.

Steam does not require an internet connection to run, you only need to be connected when purchasing/downloading/resgistering the game. Afterwards there is an option in the steam menu to enable offline play.

[Raygereio]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...
Still have yet to read one remotely valid reason as to why it should be required . That has to be one of the worst suggestions I've seen on these boards yet.

Really? Replacing one DRM-scheme with another one (both of which are essentially the same ET-phone-home-occasionally-system) is the worst suggestion you've seen on these forums? Clearly you've been very selective in the threads you've been reading. ^_0

Anyway, as far as DRM goes steam is fairly benign and reliable; but doesn't mean I have to like it. 

Modifié par Raygereio, 03 juillet 2011 - 09:07 .

[The Baconer]

One of the biggest reasons I choose to buy games for my 360 that I could very well buy for my PC is because of all these DRM/Activation shenanigans, and piracy is beneath me.

Though, I hear a lot of people buy the games to help the developers, and then 'acquire' them online so they don't have to deal with any DRM stuff. I may or may not start doing that.

Modifié par The Baconer, 03 juillet 2011 - 09:10 .

[Icinix]

Funkcase wrote...

No.

I dont like needing to rely on the internet to play games. And suprisingly, not everyone has the interent.  Steam should be a option, not a requirement.

Bingo.

We live in a remote area and our internet speed / reliability is not so good.  So even simple things like online activation and can sometimes cause us grief.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying ban all internet related wizzardy, but at lot of it is punishing people (of which there are still millions) who don't have high speed internet. SInge Player games should NEVER require you to access the internet if you do not wish.

[Raygereio]

The Baconer wrote...
Though, I hear a lot of people buy the games to help the developers, and then 'acquire' them online so they don't have to deal with any DRM stuff. I may or may not start doing that.

That's been my modus operandi for years. Well, that and I will "acquire" it when someone is being too lazy to release a demo and I want to make sure my setup can run the game.

Heck; sometimes it's even the only way you can play the game these days. You want to replay a game from a while back that has a antique version of securom on it? Well guess what, buddy. Windows Vista and higher won't run it anymore. Guess you now have to go download a crack in order to play it.

Modifié par Raygereio, 03 juillet 2011 - 09:24 .

[Sheppard-Commander]

Raygereio wrote...

Sheppard-Commander wrote...
Still have yet to read one remotely valid reason as to why it should be required . That has to be one of the worst suggestions I've seen on these boards yet.

Really? Replacing one DRM-scheme with another one (both of which are essentially the same ET-phone-home-occasionally-system) is the worst suggestion you've seen on these forums? Clearly you've been very selective in the threads you've been reading. ^_0

Anyway, as far as DRM goes steam is fairly benign and reliable; but doesn't mean I have to like it. 

Herp Derp. You are welcome to re-read my post, since its obvious it didnt stick the first pass over you gave it.

Cerberus Network worked just fine, there is absolutely no reason to outright replace it with a third-party program.

[Theydon]

I hate STEAM with perfect hate. I don't appreciate asking permission from a 3rd party application that REQUIRES me to have a 3rd party account. "Please may I play or install my game?" "Are your servers not too busy?" Like it does with fricking Shogun Total War 2.. I STILL can't get that game installed because they send a little dialogue box..."Our servers are too busy to install the game (you just paid 60 bucks for). Please try again later."...you're kidding me right?

[charmingcharlie]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...
Cerberus Network worked just fine, there is absolutely no reason to outright replace it with a third-party program.

That isn't strictly true, there were a whole host of problems with the Cerberus network on the PC from people not being able to register the game or even claim their "free" bonus content.  I didn't have any problems here myself but that doesn't mean that the Cerberus network worked fine though.

As for Steam as much as I would prefer to have Mass Effect 3 on steam (to go with ME 1 and ME 2 on steam) I have accepted this will not happen.  At this point I will settle for the retail version (first time I have bought a retail disc in years) if the retail version requires the Origin client I will re-evaluate my options. 

[k177sh0t]

Theydon wrote...

I hate STEAM with perfect hate. I don't appreciate asking permission from a 3rd party application that REQUIRES me to have a 3rd party account. "Please may I play or install my game?" "Are your servers not too busy?" Like it does with fricking Shogun Total War 2.. I STILL can't get that game installed because they send a little dialogue box..."Our servers are too busy to install the game (you just paid 60 bucks for). Please try again later."...you're kidding me right?

You do know its a summer sale and loads of people are downloading the game, switch your download region if you have a problem with it.

@topic

Steam/Origin/GFWL (LoL)/Cerberus Network, as long BioWare supports dedis for co-op and multiplayer, judy not peer to peer connection, im fine with what type of drm they use (except gfwl).

Respawn Entertainmaint supports dedis on all platforms, not sure if this is EA's backing or Respawn itself.

Modifié par k177sh0t, 03 juillet 2011 - 10:00 .