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[Destroy Raiden_]

So it's the end of the world as we know it, and that usually in ancient times entailed every able bodied man and young lad would be hauled out given a weapon and told to kill things. It's happened numerous times throughout history do you think any reaper ravaged worlds will deploy this tactic using young children and teens who're capable enough to understand who is the enemy and which way the hurting end of their weapon of choice is to be placed out against the onslaught? Should BW even employ this tactic to showcase the desperate straits civilizations should be in? We wanted kids they got one in should there be more in varied roles?

[LPPrince]

Good God no.

[VirtualStranger]

The "concerned mother" brigade would collectively sh*t their pants. The game would be banned from every store shelf in the world.

Modifié par VirtualStranger, 03 juillet 2011 - 11:02 .

[Captain Crash]

Udina sums this up best

Modifié par Captain Crash, 03 juillet 2011 - 11:01 .

[CrazyRah]

No just.. no that would be a horrible idea from Bioware.

[Phategod1]

No, this is not Ancient times and these are the people that the military is fighting for. If there ceases to be a visible military presence then maybe guerrilla tactics should be used but using children as soldiers is barbaric.

[yfullman]

The Reapers ate all the galaxy's children already lol. Female turians too Haha

[HopHazzard]

Some people wondered about this possibility in the run up to DA2 and the devs responded that in some countries (I believe Germany was mentioned specifically) it's actually illegal to visually depict violence against children. So that it would never happen because it would reduce the game's marketability.

[Peridian]

Putting aside the fact that it would be extremely bad publicity for BioWare (and more importantly EA), fighting the Reapers is supposed to be a long, drawn out battle that could take anywhere from decades to centuries.

In such a battle, it would be better to wait for the children to mature, before they would have to fight. Though I do think that they will have to fight, though.

[Someone With Mass]

How about not?

Just because it's war doesn't mean we can throw every rule there is about the subject out the window.

[Polka14]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

So it's the end of the world as we know it, and that usually in ancient times entailed every able bodied man and young lad would be hauled out given a weapon and told to kill things. It's happened numerous times throughout history do you think any reaper ravaged worlds will deploy this tactic using young children and teens who're capable enough to understand who is the enemy and which way the hurting end of their weapon of choice is to be placed out against the onslaught? Should BW even employ this tactic to showcase the desperate straits civilizations should be in? We wanted kids they got one in should there be more in varied roles?

Sure. would I be able to shoot them in the citadel?? if not i would still approve. it would improve the atmosphere. children are always in war movies. they should be in games with war scenes too in my opinion.

[ADLegend21]

Captain Crash wrote...

Udina sums this up best

THIS. EVERY news outlet would have a field day over bioware showing children in war.

[zweistein_J]

that's a no.
if anything like that ever shows up on a game it will be a very big mistake.
just because we are playing through a virtual war it doesn't mean it has to include the lame mistakes that humanity does in reality at the moment.
for starters having children soldiers is totally uncivilized.
secondly giving the image of children carrying guns in a GAME THAT ACTUALLY HAS GUNS is not a good idea.
thirdly, Mass Effect introduces us a humanity that is more civilized, developed, evoluted, and it just stays there as a species. In reality humanity is so unstable and f**ked up that even if we ever meet aliens, they would laugh their guts out with how our politics and civilizations work.

don't mix reality with a scifi game, its really lame when people do that.

[Raiil]

Not going to happen. Open violence against children is generally verboten in video games due to the interactive aspect.

[habitat 67]

Um no? That would be inappropriate.

[Polka14]

habitat 67 wrote...

Um no? That would be inappropriate.

Inappropriate in games but perfectly ok in movies like in "enemy at the gates"??? <_<

why keep that atrocious double standard alive people? who cares if it isn't appropriate to some? there is nothing wrong with this media form portraying the same level of graphic violence towards children as movies. no?

[Captain Crash]

Polka14 wrote...
Inappropriate in games but perfectly ok in movies like in "enemy at the gates"??? <_<

Different mediums of media and its a highly controversial topic anyway. Not really appropriate for a debate as its against forum rules and difference in opinion wont lead anywhere good regardless.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 03 juillet 2011 - 11:46 .

[Lunatic LK47]

zweistein_J wrote...

that's a no.
if anything like that ever shows up on a game it will be a very big mistake.
just because we are playing through a virtual war it doesn't mean it has to include the lame mistakes that humanity does in reality at the moment.
for starters having children soldiers is totally uncivilized.
secondly giving the image of children carrying guns in a GAME THAT ACTUALLY HAS GUNS is not a good idea.
thirdly, Mass Effect introduces us a humanity that is more civilized, developed, evoluted, and it just stays there as a species. In reality humanity is so unstable and f**ked up that even if we ever meet aliens, they would laugh their guts out with how our politics and civilizations work.

don't mix reality with a scifi game, its really lame when people do that.

Last time I checked on the Sci-Fi channel's coverage of ME2, one of the interviewees (if I remember right, it was Ray Muzyka that mentioned this), science fiction is supposed to represent "the hopes and fears of humanity's future with the currently relevant topics?" Was "They Live" any less of a legitimate science-fiction movie just because it's talking about the big divide with the social classes? Was Starship Troopers any less of a legitimate science-fiction story because the Federation had facism?

[Polka14]

Captain Crash wrote...

Polka14 wrote...
Inappropriate in games but perfectly ok in movies like in "enemy at the gates"??? <_<

Different mediums of media and its a highly controversial topic anyway. Not really appropriate for a debate as its against forum rules and difference in opinion wont lead anywhere good regardless.

who says its not "appropriate"??? sounds appropriate to me.

[Zkyire]

zweistein_J wrote...

that's a no.
if anything like that ever shows up on a game it will be a very big mistake.
just because we are playing through a virtual war it doesn't mean it has to include the lame mistakes that humanity does in reality at the moment.

Humans have always done it. Child soldiers are not new.

zweistein_J wrote...
for starters having children soldiers is totally uncivilized.

War is uncivilised. Torture is uncivilised. Shall we cut out all references to both?

zweistein_J wrote...
secondly giving the image of children carrying guns in a GAME THAT ACTUALLY HAS GUNS is not a good idea.

Virtual children, carrying virtual weapons, shooting other virtual people with virtual bullets will not harm anyone.

zweistein_J wrote...
thirdly, Mass Effect introduces us a humanity that is more civilized, developed, evoluted, and it just stays there as a species.

Actually it shows humans pretty much as we are now, just with better tech. All the prejudice, greed etc are still there.

zweistein_J wrote...
don't mix reality with a scifi game, its really lame when people do that.

So.. remove everything in the game with a basis in reality? No more disease, no more fights, no more chain of command, no more alcohol, no more death?


Just FYI while I'm quoting you specifically, I'm not really singling you out, I just had to pick someone from the list of people against it, and it was you.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Polka14 wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

So it's the end of the world as we know it, and that usually in ancient times entailed every able bodied man and young lad would be hauled out given a weapon and told to kill things. It's happened numerous times throughout history do you think any reaper ravaged worlds will deploy this tactic using young children and teens who're capable enough to understand who is the enemy and which way the hurting end of their weapon of choice is to be placed out against the onslaught? Should BW even employ this tactic to showcase the desperate straits civilizations should be in? We wanted kids they got one in should there be more in varied roles?

Sure. would I be able to shoot them in the citadel?? if not i would still approve. it would improve the atmosphere. children are always in war movies. they should be in games with war scenes too in my opinion.

No you can't shoot the kids! I was just watching the LOTR 2 and they were at hemls deep and they showed some 12 year olds getting outfitted but they never showed them actively in war and I thought about ME.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

LPPrince wrote...

Good God no.

Yeah I agree, the children would be put to better use if we liqufied them to make our own reaper.

[GunMoth]

Earth is like the titanic. Women and children need to gtfo. Seriously, you think a kid-warrior is going to take down a ****ing reaper?!