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[Siansonea]

By the Goddess...

Ashley's outfit is insulting. It's an obvious attempt at a skankwear outfit. It's meant to evoke a miniskirt-with-thigh-high-boots effect. This is quite contrary to her "tinfoil miniskirt" comment on the Citadel. Oh, Ashley, you've sold out. Or rather, BioWare has sold YOU out. Not encouraging, BioWare!

[ipgd]

Filament wrote...

And I'm just not seeing it as being that sexualized. It looks nice. It's not something I think would 'help people masturbate.'

She's wearing garters. Garters.

[MACharlie1]

Finished her boots. Sorta.

[Xeranx]

I don't know whether to be happy or furious with this. I have to be honest that I'm happy because I feel vindicated regarding the now closed thread in which I and others were called sexist when discussing Ashley's attire. I'm annoyed because this is nonsensical. Practicality?....gone! It's an fu to L'Etoile as far as I'm concerned and this will be the last ME game I'll buy because Bioware can't help but screw it up.

[Iakus]

neftones wrote...

"i've gone from a front line grunt to a black ops spy, better keep that heavy armor and military haircut!"

Why not?  Worked for Shepard:whistle:

[slimgrin]

As Priestly said, they may not be final renderings and thank god. They sure as hell don't look final.

[Khayness]

neftones wrote...

Were they the same characters as Ashley? Did they have the same background, same missions, anything in common other than the Spectre banner? What does it matter what they did? All Spectres are not the same.

That same reasoning can be used why Ashley didn't change due to her military upbringing.

[Tup3x]

MACharlie1 wrote...



Finished her boots. Sorta.

Looks good. I approve.

[Chignon]

MACharlie1 wrote...

This looks absolutely gorgeous. Much better than the original.

[Patchwork]

So every other Spectre we've met, including ME2 Shepard male and female, wears medium to heavy armour but Ashley forgoes her preferred choice to wear light armour?

That's the argument? Really?

[upsettingshorts]

Filament wrote...

I see those things, but not your conclusion based on them. It's a pretty conservative looking outfit.

When compared to Miranda, Samara, and Jack - sure.  When compared to Ashley Williams in Mass Effect 1-2, no.

[ipgd]

Filament wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Filament wrote...

And I'm just not seeing it as being that sexualized. It looks nice. It's not something I think would 'help people masturbate.'

Wedge heels.
Garters.
Thigh-highs.
Miniskirt (or miniskirt-evoking shirt).
Lower cut neckline.
Longer hair.
Chest "armor" that forms tightly around the boobs.

Common sense indeed.

I see those things, but not your conclusion based on them. It's a pretty conservative looking outfit.

They are highly impractical for combat. She is sacrificing mobility and protection for sex appeal.

[Darc_Requiem]

neftones wrote...

Darc_Requiem wrote...

neftones wrote...

Darc_Requiem wrote...

Ashley was wearing heavy armor in ME2. ME3 takes place months after ME2. It has not been several years. Sure something could have happened in the months between ME2 and 3 to make her do a complete 180 on her character but it's more likely that Ashley is just being sexed up sales purposes.

Like becoming a Spectre? Hmmmmmmmm.

Are you seriously going to make the argument that being made a Spectre and taking on more dangerous missions causes her to ditch her armor? So the Soldier becomes a Spectre and ditches the heavy armor. The Sentinel becomes a Spectre and goes from light to medium armor. No, you can't be serious. You really had me going for a moment.

No, you're totally right, every Spectre does the exact same job, takes the same missions, the same approach to those missions, etc etc etc. There's absolutely no way two people could become Spectres and go on drastically different paths afterwards. And don't even THINK, not for one second, that things could happen in their lives that would make them want to make major changes to how they go about their work. We are all locked into any statement or preference we've made at any point in our lives, no matter what changes around us. 

Every Spectre we've seen thus far, despite varying classes wore armor. Even the biotics. So a front line Soldier with an expressed preference for heavy armor is going to start traipsing around in less armor then Liara? Even long range fighters like Garrus and Infiltrators in general wear medium armor and they snipe from a distance. You are arguing just to argue at this point.

[Someone With Mass]

BioWare, please stop thinking that all of your fans and players are fourteen year olds that just hit puberty, and treat the characters with the dignity they deserve.

[Spiratic]

GodWood wrote...

Why did you pick a picture of her in ME1 light armour?
Should be ME1 heavy armour VS catsuit.

ME1 medium armor actually, thats the armor she is wearing when you recruit her, NOT the heavy armor so it should be ME1 Medium Armor vs Me3 Light Armor....

On that note: why is everyone complaining saying well Kaiden is wearing heavy armor, that makes no sense he's a biotic! When actually Kaiden is wearing medium armor, which does make sense for a Biotic, especially since you have Shep and Vasir off the top of my head as biotics with Medium armor...

[Paraxial]

Why is everyone complaining about Ashley when Vega looks like a Gears of War character?

[upsettingshorts]

Filament wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Filament wrote...

And I'm just not seeing it as being that sexualized. It looks nice. It's not something I think would 'help people masturbate.'

She's wearing garters. Garters.

Is that supposed to turn me on?

Yes.  That's what garters are for.  That you aren't personally particularly intrigued by them doesn't alter their inherent purpose.

Bible Doctor wrote...

Why is everyone complaining about Ashley when Vega looks like a Gears of War character?

His outfit doesn't contradict previously established characterization because he doesn't have any.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:42 .

[neftones]

iakus wrote...

neftones wrote...

"i've gone from a front line grunt to a black ops spy, better keep that heavy armor and military haircut!"

Why not?  Worked for Shepard:whistle:

Two totally different scenarios for two totally different people. Nevermind that we're all debating assumptions/guesswork as far as Ashley goes (and based on possibly-not-final, ALTERNATE art) - the point I was making is that it's perfectly logical that Ashley becoming a Spectre may mean her work has called for a different approach. People do not just stand pat and stick to what they've done as the world changes around them. 

The difference in this debate, of course, is that I'm perfectly willing to accept the idea that this look is based solely on "sexy" motivation. The other side seems completely incapable of recognizing the possbility that it's for story reasons. #theinternet

[ipgd]

Filament wrote...

ipgd wrote...

She's wearing garters. Garters.

Is that supposed to turn me on?

Yes.

Ever since elastic was invented, garters became utterly purposeless pieces of fetish wear. Their sole modern function is sex appeal. And her armor has them, god knows why.