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[Vamp44]

On with the ****ing & moaning!


Although in other news....Vega is one ugly guy. That is all.

Modifié par Vamp44, 04 juillet 2011 - 10:45 .

[Sebby]

Eromenos wrote...

crusher1990 wrote...

I was browsing this portuguse forum and I found this pic. Not sure If it was posted here yet.

http://i1093.photobu...umes_1920-1.jpg

Edit:
N7 Pistol
N7 SMG
N7 Shotgun
N7 Sniper Rifle

Found higher res pics of N7 weapon pack.

A lot of us loved ME1 for its 80s-style of scifi exploration...but I, for one, wasn't asking them to put in nasty femullets and headbands, or shoulder-pads on wimmin. Gods. Space opera please, not soap opera.

This is even worse than Miranda and Samara combined. A female Marine grunt wearing a catsuit, high-heels, loose hair, and showing off cleavage. Ah, but shoulder-pads make it "ok" like they did for Samara. Oh wait, they didn't.

Kaidan's head looks pasted-on. 

ETA: And a skirt, too? Fail.

And the color scheme makes it look like she's wearing stockings too.

[Wrathra]

Oh dear god why is Ashley dressed like a 60s go-go dancer?

Seriously? sigh.

[Homey C-Dawg]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Wow that is actually quite nice looking. Still would rather see her back in her pheonix armor (or something like it).

[MillaShepard]

Is it so much to ask that Ashley have practical armor for ME3?

[Eromenos]

Cerai13 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Cerai13 wrote...

Yeah, to me the new appearance for Ash appears to be the equivalent of a tasteful uniform. Something very much suited for a Lieutenant or ranking officer. Assuming her outfit reflects her rank as an officer (Lt), having her out on the front lines IMMEDIATELY as a soldier class is highly unlikely from an alliance perspective. She is no longer a peon who is disposable, though I am sure she would love to be there kicking ****. She may have even adjusted her fighting style to better suit that of a officer and spectre (infiltrator?) further legitimizing the design changes. What all "Ashley = Soldier" purists should be asking for is a good reason for her change in appearance through dialogue. What if she dislikes the outfit they gave her? There could be a whole ton of little details to make sense of a simple change in style. At any rate, armor may be her "loyalty" mission type unlock in ME3, these extras are just for cool guys who got the collectors edition!

Shepard is a Commander, and he's wearing armor.

It's like saying: I'm the CEO of this company, so I don't have to wear safety gear on the construction sites.

It's just stupid. 

Still, I am pretty sure the CEO doesn't wear hardhats in his personal office. Clothing has to be situationally appropriate (and pants appropriate fo that matter!) and the point is we all know Ash, would not opt for this armor in a fight. She may however be wearing it, when a fight breaks out. It is reasonable to see her in this uniform, just a bit odd for shepard to insist she wear it

Ashley was shown wearing the blue-version of this trash at the end of the E3 game footage. It is her combat outfit. There wouldn't be 2 versions of this if they didn't intend to implement it throughout the game.

Don't make excuses for this misogynistic cop-out. There are no good reasons at all for women like Ashley, Miranda, and/or Samara to ever go out in public like this. Fantasies about them relying on "sex-appeal" are BS considering how much easier it is for them to just kill their way straight-out towards their goals.

[Made Nightwing]

I went to bed when this had eleven pages, and I woke up to forty. Madness.

In other news, Vega looks like a badass who actually COULD headbutt a krogan, like a boss. Fire a Widow/Claymore/Revenant, like a boss. And for those claiming his build is unrealistic, I've met guys bulkier than that. The military encourages individuals to build upper body strength, it takes a lot to carry a pack up the side of a mountain, plus rifle, ammo and other combat gear.

Kaidan looks pretty realistic, I think the symbols on their armour are unit patches. S1...Maybe Spectre? Or Intelligence? Not totally happy with Ashley's new look, but it might make more sense in context. Miranda's jumpsuit certainly made more sense once they explained that aside from her shields, the little hexagonal shapes on her jumpsuit were filled with non-Newtonian gel that hardened into a ceramic like substance under fire. Since such substances exist in real life and are being tested by the military, I could actually accept it as being realistic.

[Sebby]

Eromenos wrote...

Cerai13 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Cerai13 wrote...

Yeah, to me the new appearance for Ash appears to be the equivalent of a tasteful uniform. Something very much suited for a Lieutenant or ranking officer. Assuming her outfit reflects her rank as an officer (Lt), having her out on the front lines IMMEDIATELY as a soldier class is highly unlikely from an alliance perspective. She is no longer a peon who is disposable, though I am sure she would love to be there kicking ****. She may have even adjusted her fighting style to better suit that of a officer and spectre (infiltrator?) further legitimizing the design changes. What all "Ashley = Soldier" purists should be asking for is a good reason for her change in appearance through dialogue. What if she dislikes the outfit they gave her? There could be a whole ton of little details to make sense of a simple change in style. At any rate, armor may be her "loyalty" mission type unlock in ME3, these extras are just for cool guys who got the collectors edition!

Shepard is a Commander, and he's wearing armor.

It's like saying: I'm the CEO of this company, so I don't have to wear safety gear on the construction sites.

It's just stupid. 

Still, I am pretty sure the CEO doesn't wear hardhats in his personal office. Clothing has to be situationally appropriate (and pants appropriate fo that matter!) and the point is we all know Ash, would not opt for this armor in a fight. She may however be wearing it, when a fight breaks out. It is reasonable to see her in this uniform, just a bit odd for shepard to insist she wear it

Ashley was shown wearing the blue-version of this trash at the end of the E3 game footage. It is her combat outfit. There wouldn't be 2 versions of this if they didn't intend to implement it throughout the game.

Don't make excuses for this misogynistic cop-out. There are no good reasons at all for women like Ashley, Miranda, and/or Samara to ever go out in public like this. Fantasies about them relying on "sex-appeal" are BS considering how much easier it is for them to just kill their way straight-out towards their goals.

Yeah and why would they show Kaidan in combat armor and not Ashley? It's obviously her "armor".

[Obvakhi]

Get rid of that skirt that Ashley is wearing and she's fine.

[Finis Valorum]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Miranda's jumpsuit certainly made more sense once they explained that aside from her shields, the little hexagonal shapes on her jumpsuit were filled with non-Newtonian gel that hardened into a ceramic like substance under fire. Since such substances exist in real life and are being tested by the military, I could actually accept it as being realistic.

Yeah, heavy armor is for the most part unnessesary in the ME universe and I don't object to combat catsuits per se (except in really hostile environments) but why can't Shepard have the option to wear one too? I'm tired of having to look like a tank while all my teammates get to look sexy and fight none the worse for it. 

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

I could see if Ash wore that outfit, or the original colored one, and hair style to Shepard's trial.. but it makes no sense if she is wearing it the entire game.

Unfortunately, given ME2, she will be. I guess they had to 'sex up' the other human female LI option.

[Cerai13]

Eromenos wrote...

Cerai13 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Cerai13 wrote...

Yeah, to me the new appearance for Ash appears to be the equivalent of a tasteful uniform. Something very much suited for a Lieutenant or ranking officer. Assuming her outfit reflects her rank as an officer (Lt), having her out on the front lines IMMEDIATELY as a soldier class is highly unlikely from an alliance perspective. She is no longer a peon who is disposable, though I am sure she would love to be there kicking ****. She may have even adjusted her fighting style to better suit that of a officer and spectre (infiltrator?) further legitimizing the design changes. What all "Ashley = Soldier" purists should be asking for is a good reason for her change in appearance through dialogue. What if she dislikes the outfit they gave her? There could be a whole ton of little details to make sense of a simple change in style. At any rate, armor may be her "loyalty" mission type unlock in ME3, these extras are just for cool guys who got the collectors edition!

Shepard is a Commander, and he's wearing armor.

It's like saying: I'm the CEO of this company, so I don't have to wear safety gear on the construction sites.

It's just stupid. 

Still, I am pretty sure the CEO doesn't wear hardhats in his personal office. Clothing has to be situationally appropriate (and pants appropriate fo that matter!) and the point is we all know Ash, would not opt for this armor in a fight. She may however be wearing it, when a fight breaks out. It is reasonable to see her in this uniform, just a bit odd for shepard to insist she wear it

Ashley was shown wearing the blue-version of this trash at the end of the E3 game footage. It is her combat outfit. There wouldn't be 2 versions of this if they didn't intend to implement it throughout the game.

Don't make excuses for this misogynistic cop-out. There are no good reasons at all for women like Ashley, Miranda, and/or Samara to ever go out in public like this. Fantasies about them relying on "sex-appeal" are BS considering how much easier it is for them to just kill their way straight-out towards their goals.

Hmmm. I'm not seeing this as just a re-color of the original skinsuit. Looking at the circle chapes on her legs in the trailer they do appear to be separate outfits. That said, her current outfit selection is lacking in the armor department for sure. To me however, this new outfit appears much more proffesional than the blue version skinsuit. If ashley was at a military ceremony for example, I could see her wearing this (very) light armor, instead of her skinsuit, or even her original heavy armor. Not as a matter of sex appeal, but as one of respect for the Alliance. Also, who is to say Ashley's character is comfortable with the change in her armor? I would be quite pleased to hear her express her dislike for the uniform she currently wears. The overt sex appeal could be something she dislikes, but in either case I like the new outfit despite her not being alive in my games as of now. IMO it looks much better than the skinsuit and more tasteful. But that's just me

[atheelogos]

Is Ash wearing heels?...

[atheelogos]

Nyoka wrote...

A little recolor so she doesn't look exactly like Kaidan. I started making the lines pink but it was a bit ridiculous and red looked better to me.

This is how all women should dress while in combat!

[jlb524]

Nyoka wrote...

A little recolor so she doesn't look exactly like Kaidan. I started making the lines pink but it was a bit ridiculous and red looked better to me.

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Now, that is nice.

[Eromenos]

Seboist wrote...

Yeah and why would they show Kaidan in combat armor and not Ashley? It's obviously her "armor".

Exactly. We're long past the point of pretending the ME devs can claim credit they haven't earned. ME2 was hateful in its depiction of women, and so far ME3 promises to follow those lines.

[ohnotherancor]

Nyoka wrote...

A little recolor so she doesn't look exactly like Kaidan. I started making the lines pink but it was a bit ridiculous and red looked better to me.

This is great. Hopefully she'll get something like this.
*crosses fingers*

Modifié par x0hn0th3r4nc0rx, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:17 .

[TMA LIVE]

I actually prefer Liara in her armor. Especially since she was already wearing it in Shadow Broker, and she looks damn nice in it.

I think they should just drop Ash's outfit completely. I'm not a fan of "non-sexy" armor, so I'd prefer something more like Liara's armor, except heavy, and built for a fight. Ash is a soldier. She should look the part. However, she shouldn't just be wearing Kaidan's armor, except smaller. She should have her own special look, and one that also makes her beautiful. Not just another random soldier.

[MrFob]

I really think the other s are all ok (kaidens armour even looks great IMO) but Ash? Sorry but all I can say is: Back to the drawing boards BioWare.
Seriously, I hope BW is aware of this thread and the reaction to these pictures. I mean If they want to put yet another "sexified" female in the game, fine, go ahead but I always thought the VS was supposed to be a nod to the long term fans of the trilogy. So why slap them in the face llike this now?

Until now, I was one of those who believed Ashs appearance for now was just casual/for the trial and that we should wait and see but now ... most of the 10 minute fan photoshops in this thread look way better then the original and that is just sad.

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Nyoka wrote...

A little recolor so she doesn't look exactly like Kaidan. I started making the lines pink but it was a bit ridiculous and red looked better to me.

See, that's what I am talking about. This looks great. This is what everyone was waiting for (kudos to Nyoka). I don't know what they were thinking.

Modifié par MrFob, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:22 .

[Taritu]

Wow, Liara looks awful in that pic. Glad it isn't final.

[Darc_Requiem]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...
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Please tell me how character growth is equivalent to a change in protective attire in combat situations.  Ashley states her dislike for Asari commando attire in combat in the first game. 

Ashley states she's an Alliance Marine.  "It's in my blood" being a defining comment if I ever heard one.  This is done in ME2.

Stating that we don't know how she's changed in 3 years, thereby completely ignoring the above evidence found in ME2, seems like a move to make your statement and label people however you want because you don't agree with them.  

If the time between ME2 and ME3 is a few months how do you think her change can be justified?  How do you justify a departure from what one considered practical and safe to use in combat to embracing something that goes against everything she's known for?

1st. 6 to 12 months has passed between the end of ME2 and the start of ME3, and the encounter on Horizon took place before that. Since then, she has become a Spectre - which she couldn't have been when she was on Horizon because, as you say, she was an Alliance marine then. Thats a pretty big change for someone to go through, and we have no idea what kind of Spectre she will become. A soldier wears massive armour because they are deployed to the front. They follow orders and generally just have to shoot at things. A Spectre approaches things in many ways - not just combat, but also with stealth and diplomacy. It may be that she has become a paragon-style Spectre, prepared to ask questions first and shoot only if required. She no longer has to follow orders, except from the Council. A Spectre can be delopyed long before any shooting is required, whereas a soldier is deployed when shooting is pretty much certain.

2nd. No only has there been enough time for her character to change, but she also witnessed her old Commander brought back from the dead, saw a colony under her superivision attacked and has been promoted to Spectre. Thats enough to change anyone a significant amount.

3rd. Not only has Bioware stated those aren't final, but we also don't know that the outfit she is wearing is her combat gear.

4th. I've already argued why factually accurate combat gear is not essential for the style of science-fiction Mass Effect is, but people seem to have glazed over that. I shouldn't have put that first paragraph in my original comment.

Sigh...this is pointless but I'll do it anyway.

1. More time passed between when Shepard dies and when you see her on Horizon than has passed between ME2 and ME3. Spectre's get the most dangerous missions. They get promoted based on their proficiency at their craft. You don't get a top alliance marine and put her in position where those skills aren't needed. She didn't get an invite to the STG, and even the STG wears armor. Not only that, name one Spectre besides Ashley that doesn't wear armor?

Nihlus


Saren


Tela Vasir


Kaidan Alenko


2. A colony being attacked isn't a life altering experience for a soldier
that has seen that very thing before, Eden Prime and Feros come to mind. Shepard's return is shocking. That said, she did manage to find out
about a legion of AI Dreadnoughts that wipes out all advance organic life every 50,000 years or so and made out fine. That's setting aside that she heard rumors of Shepard's return and figure something was up based on Anderson stonewalling her.

3. So everyone esle is in their combat gear but Ashley's in her casual gear? That doesn't even make since. Of course things aren't final, the game doesn't come ou for another 8 months. Hopefully voicing our displeasure will make her look change to one that is consistent with her character and her skill set.

4. Factually accurate armor? That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's about character consistency. Ashley's armor isn't consistent with her character. Her comments about in general don't point to her getting dolled up and going into a gun fight. It would be like Aveline showing up in DA3 dressed similar to Isabela.