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[Vamp44]

Ruud333 wrote...
Sometimes you have to wonder about BSN members and their priorities

To each there own I guess.

lol don't get me started on what I've tended to notice while lurking on these forums for the past year. It's very disappointing.

Modifié par Vamp44, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

slimgrin wrote...

A modern day female soldier. A real one. Just for reference.


http://t3.gstatic.co...x1Dk_lmq7gftUJg

You know what the sad part is? The Cerberus Nemesis is closer to that than any female on our team.

[Siansonea]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I like Ashley's look. Don't see why people are complaining. I mean, it's not anything like Samara or Miranda....

I like Ashley's outfit too. For Miranda. Miranda will always wear a stylish, seductive type of armor. Ash would be embarrassed to wear something like this. Miranda would OWN it.

[Siansonea]

Someone With Mass wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

A modern day female soldier. A real one. Just for reference.


http://t3.gstatic.co...x1Dk_lmq7gftUJg

You know what the sad part is? The Cerberus Nemesis is closer to that than any female on our team.

To be perfectly fair, the ME armor is theoretically also a spacesuit/pressure suit. So present day Earth-atmosphere combat gear isn't a perfect parallel. With carbon nanotube technology and all sorts of other tech, a really efficient space suit is going to be more of a "catsuit" type of affair than present-day military fatigues. But on TOP of that catsuit, a soldier ought to be wearing several pieces of armor plating if they expect to be wading into a battlefield. Catsuits are great pressure suits (that, hello, ought to have helmets), but are not necessarily the best defense against gunfire.

[AngelicMachinery]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

A modern day female soldier. A real one. Just for reference.


http://t3.gstatic.co...x1Dk_lmq7gftUJg

Today =/= 2180s

So your assuming that the military is suddenly going to decide its a good idea to create uniforms that are meant to accentuate a recruits femininity?

Truthfully though,  I think Ash soon sport the high and tight...  I don't see the point in keeping your hair when your off to war.

If she's a Spectre in ME3, she can pretty much wear whatever she wants.

She may be a spectre but the girl has proven herself to be marine to the core...

[Eromenos]

Cerai13 wrote...

Hmmm. I'm not seeing this as just a re-color of the original skinsuit. Looking at the circle chapes on her legs in the trailer they do appear to be separate outfits. That said, her current outfit selection is lacking in the armor department for sure. To me however, this new outfit appears much more proffesional than the blue version skinsuit. If ashley was at a military ceremony for example, I could see her wearing this (very) light armor, instead of her skinsuit, or even her original heavy armor. Not as a matter of sex appeal, but as one of respect for the Alliance. Also, who is to say Ashley's character is comfortable with the change in her armor? I would be quite pleased to hear her express her dislike for the uniform she currently wears. The overt sex appeal could be something she dislikes, but in either case I like the new outfit despite her not being alive in my games as of now. IMO it looks much better than the skinsuit and more tasteful. But that's just me

Her two outfits thus far seem close enough. There are differences between Liara's versions as well, but Liara's are both nominally labcoats (the white one seems layered with tough fabrics/ceramics and places for gadgets), just as both of Ashley's are catsuits. Sad how Liara seems to be wearing more protection...

I'm with you in that this version makes Ashley "more" professional than the blue one did, but neither catsuit is professional for a Marine grunt from a universe in which hardsuits are the way to go. Just because BioWare pasted a "S1" label to suggest establishment-backing for her catsuit does not mean we need to "respect" or "give credit" to such a token cop-out. Given what we know about hardsuits in ME, this...thing...she's wearing would never be part of acceptable military attire. And Ashley is military to the bone, regardless of who she answers to.

You mentioned a few ways that BioWare might "address" this. Even if they followed through on every single one of those, they would still be insufficient excuses for sticking her into an unreasonable sci-fi chain-mail bikini. The Ashley we know wouldn't waste time whining; she would jack the closest unattended hardsuit for herself. She would even jury-rig one. There are no reasonable excuses to suggest someone like Ashley would "make peace" with the idea of fighting to the death over a long period without her armor. BioWare may or may not try to come up with something, but there isn't anything that would be plausible aside for blatant honesty. They're playing down to the shooter crowd.

Modifié par Eromenos, 04 juillet 2011 - 11:58 .

[littlezack]

Siansonea II wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I like Ashley's look. Don't see why people are complaining. I mean, it's not anything like Samara or Miranda....

I like Ashley's outfit too. For Miranda. Miranda will always wear a stylish, seductive type of armor. Ash would be embarrassed to wear something like this. Miranda would OWN it.

It's not seductive, it's a normal outfit. Again, I don't like it, either, but it's hardly the stripperware most of you are making it out to be.

[Siansonea]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I like Ashley's look. Don't see why people are complaining. I mean, it's not anything like Samara or Miranda....

I like Ashley's outfit too. For Miranda. Miranda will always wear a stylish, seductive type of armor. Ash would be embarrassed to wear something like this. Miranda would OWN it.

I don't think Ash would be embarassed about wearing that.

That surprises me. Normally you and I agree on everything.

[Cancer Puppet]

What was it Ashley said in ME1 about thigh-high boots?

[Mr.House]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I like Ashley's look. Don't see why people are complaining. I mean, it's not anything like Samara or Miranda....

I like Ashley's outfit too. For Miranda. Miranda will always wear a stylish, seductive type of armor. Ash would be embarrassed to wear something like this. Miranda would OWN it.

I don't think Ash would be embarassed about wearing that.

She says in ME she prefers heavy armour and would never wear crap like she is wearing in ME3.

[VirtualStranger]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I like Ashley's look. Don't see why people are complaining. I mean, it's not anything like Samara or Miranda....

I like Ashley's outfit too. For Miranda. Miranda will always wear a stylish, seductive type of armor. Ash would be embarrassed to wear something like this. Miranda would OWN it.

I don't think Ash would be embarassed about wearing that.

The relevant part is at 0:55

[Mr.House]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

What was it Ashley said in ME1 about thigh-high boots?

It was a joke, and it had nothing to do with wearing it in combat.

[Vamp44]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

What was it Ashley said in ME1 about thigh-high boots?

Buy her dinner first.

Modifié par Vamp44, 05 juillet 2011 - 12:04 .

[Siansonea]

Honestly, I would probably be giving Ash's outfit more of a "benefit of the doubt" if Kaidan was ALSO wearing a catsuit. But Kaidan is armored up like he's expecting a real fight, and his specialization in ME1 made him unable to wear all but light armor. So why is Kaidan wearing medium armor, and Ashley—who could wear heavy armor in ME1—wearing what looks to be a civilian outfit?

[littlezack]

I mean, damn, Link from Legend of Zelda wears about the same thing.

[AngelicMachinery]

Eromenos wrote...

sci-fi chain-mail bikini.

Alright, alright,  I'm all for giving Ashley armor but you are totally over reacting...  

It's not even really a catsuit either...

[Mr.House]

Siansonea II wrote...

Honestly, I would probably be giving Ash's outfit more of a "benefit of the doubt" if Kaidan was ALSO wearing a catsuit. But Kaidan is armored up like he's expecting a real fight, and his specialization in ME1 made him unable to wear all but light armor. So why is Kaidan wearing medium armor, and Ashley—who could wear heavy armor in ME1—wearing what looks to be a civilian outfit?

Pretty much this.

[Mr.House]

littlezack wrote...

I mean, damn, Link from Legend of Zelda wears about the same thing.

LoZ is also fantasy, and things like what Link wears is normal, nor is Link in a war with guns, explosions and huge AI ships.

[littlezack]

Siansonea II wrote...

Honestly, I would probably be giving Ash's outfit more of a "benefit of the doubt" if Kaidan was ALSO wearing a catsuit. But Kaidan is armored up like he's expecting a real fight, and his specialization in ME1 made him unable to wear all but light armor. So why is Kaidan wearing medium armor, and Ashley—who could wear heavy armor in ME1—wearing what looks to be a civilian outfit?

Because nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wants to see Kaiden in a catsuit. Ever. For any reason. That would be...scary.

[Mr.House]

littlezack wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Honestly, I would probably be giving Ash's outfit more of a "benefit of the doubt" if Kaidan was ALSO wearing a catsuit. But Kaidan is armored up like he's expecting a real fight, and his specialization in ME1 made him unable to wear all but light armor. So why is Kaidan wearing medium armor, and Ashley—who could wear heavy armor in ME1—wearing what looks to be a civilian outfit?

Because nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wants to see Kaiden in a catsuit. Ever. For any reason. That would be...scary.

And everybody wants to see Ash wear something that contradicts what she said in the past?

[littlezack]

Mr.House wrote...

littlezack wrote...

I mean, damn, Link from Legend of Zelda wears about the same thing.

LoZ is also fantasy, and things like what Link wears is normal, nor is Link in a war with guns, explosions and huge AI ships.

My point is that it's hardly some super-sexy outfit. All this talk about her dressing like that for sex value is ridiculous.