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#1151
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Mr.Kusy wrote...

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Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


Game's rated 18+, this argument should be invalid... sadly... I can only say it shoult... not that it is.


Yeah, as we both know, the 18+ rating is yet another reason the little boys will want to play it. There might be boobies! And they might say naughty words! :o

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Is Bioware paying Ronnie from Jersey Shore a fee for using his likeness?

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slimgrin wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

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Maybe they could keep the sexual or sensual aspects limited to when characters interact romantically... ie: f*ck, and then the rest of the time they're equipped like actual soldiers.


Like in that game... hmm... what was it called... Mass Effect number one?


Sorry, I was too busy being roasted over the flames by you and Mr. Homely.

One more time?



I'm surely not flaming that hard to distract you.

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TheConfidenceMan wrote...

Is Bioware paying Ronnie from Jersey Shore a fee for using his likeness?


:lol::lol::lol:

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Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.

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Brockololly wrote...

Between this stuff and DA2's Hot Rod Samurai redesign, I don't know what the hell is going on in BioWare's art department.


It's been taken over by EA and they've brought in a very expensive monkey in a suit manager complete with Harvard MBA yet zero understanding of both the gaming industry and art to streamline the creative process.
Isn't that obvious?

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slimgrin wrote...

Maybe they could keep the sexual or sensual aspects limited to when characters interact romantically... ie: f*ck, and then the rest of the time they're equipped like actual soldiers.

Then it all makes sense. :wizard:


I'd be fine with this. ;)

And actually if this was Miranda's outfit, it would make perfect sense. If Liara's outfit was an alternate outfit for Samara, it would make perfect sense. But it just seems like the Art Department is doing its own thing, and nobody's even checking on them and making sure the art design is in keeping with the characters and story. These aren't bad designs. They're just bad designs for these characters.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.


I'm not even sure what this means...

though, I do think it's hilarious your defending this change while you are absolutely opposed to another.  I get my lulz where I can.

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All this over a fictional character. *smh* No words...no words.

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Sadly slimgrin that's not the way it's gonna go. We get asscracks and clevage during battle yet during the lovescenes everyone's half dressed.

I really miss ME1.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Maybe they could keep the sexual or sensual aspects limited to when characters interact romantically... ie: f*ck, and then the rest of the time they're equipped like actual soldiers.


Did you complain about Miranda as well?


Nope. Although her and Samara at least had distinct outfits befitting their character, if not the one's I'd choose. I'm arguing for practicality here, realism.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.


Hey, look, we're disagreeing again.

BioWare has stated flat out the James Vega exists primarily as the new players' entry into the Mass Effect universe. He's going to be Question Guy, so the other characters can go into Relevant Exposition about the ME universe and get the new players up to speed. Naturally he's designed to look the part of the people who are most likely to have missed the boat up until now—people who are very young. Older players probably already know all about Mass Effect, and have either already hopped on board, or decided it wasn't for them. But teenage boys? They're the untapped market, and that's why James Vega is there, that's why Ashley is raiding Miranda's closet, and that's why everything we're hearing about ME3 is focusing on omni-blades, Kinect, rolling into cover, and other such things that none of US actually care about.

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Vamp44 wrote...

All this over a fictional character. *smh* No words...no words.


Funny, those look like words to me...:whistle:

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.


and I quote:  "Mass Effect 3 is a great entry point for new players"  I beleive it was Casy Hudson who said it in one of the early interviews... or was it Jesse Houston?  well one of those two

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Siansonea II wrote...

Vamp44 wrote...

All this over a fictional character. *smh* No words...no words.


Funny, those look like words to me...:whistle:


haha Touche.

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Vamp44 wrote...

All this over a fictional character. *smh* No words...no words.


This.

I do hope they the criticisms on board though, as after the first two games they obviously don't have a clue what they are doing.Posted Image

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Siansonea II wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.


Hey, look, we're disagreeing again.

BioWare has stated flat out the James Vega exists primarily as the new players' entry into the Mass Effect universe. He's going to be Question Guy, so the other characters can go into Relevant Exposition about the ME universe and get the new players up to speed. Naturally he's designed to look the part of the people who are most likely to have missed the boat up until now—people who are very young. Older players probably already know all about Mass Effect, and have either already hopped on board, or decided it wasn't for them. But teenage boys? They're the untapped market, and that's why James Vega is there, that's why Ashley is raiding Miranda's closet, and that's why everything we're hearing about ME3 is focusing on omni-blades, Kinect, rolling into cover, and other such things that none of US actually care about.


It's pretty much the same thing as ME1, though.

Your statement about Vega = ME1 Shepard

Ashley = ME1 Liara

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Brockololly wrote...
Between this stuff and DA2's Hot Rod Samurai redesign, I don't know what the hell is going on in BioWare's art department.


Bongwater?

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Vega clearly exist for Marketing reasons as well.

"Hey little boy! Yeah you! You've never played a Mass Effect™ game before, but here's James Vega™—and this guy is just like you! He's muscular to the point of immobility, he's got Douche Face™, and he's got a hairstyle only a pre-teen would think was cool. So come along, little guy, and play Mass Effect 3™, now available on XBox 360™, PlayStation 3™, and PC!"

"And hey little boy, just in case you've already hit puberty, here's Ashley™, a sexy minx who helps Commander Shepard™ defeat the bad guys! And if you're a really good little boy, we'll show you Tali™, whose hips will induce puberty if it hasn't happened to you already."

Yes, BioWare, you're that transparent sometimes.


This would be valid if this was ME1 we were talking about.


I'm not even sure what this means...

though, I do think it's hilarious your defending this change while you are absolutely opposed to another.  I get my lulz where I can.


To me this not really a change.

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slimgrin wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Maybe they could keep the sexual or sensual aspects limited to when characters interact romantically... ie: f*ck, and then the rest of the time they're equipped like actual soldiers.


Did you complain about Miranda as well?


Nope. Although her and Samara at least had distinct outfits befitting their character, if not the one's I'd choose. I'm arguing for practicality here, realism.


I actually think Miranda and Samara's costumes make perfect sense for their characters. Well, except for in hostile environments and hard vacuum, that is. Miranda is a Minx with a Capital M, she's not going to wear a potato sack or bulky armor. And Samara's an asari. An OLD asari. Back when her armor was made, humans didn't exist, and no other species in the galaxy had "boobies" and therefore cleavage didn't mean anything to them. Well, maybe quarians might have looked twice, but salarians? Would THEY be impressed/aroused/shocked/affected by asari bosoms? Pshaw. Nope. It's not until humans started skittering around the mass relay network that asari got the memo that their bosoms had cultural significance outside of the asari's own culture. That's my take, anyway. Samara would probably be mildly amused that humans fixate on her cleavage, then she'd return to her meditations.

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I don't think Ashley's uniform is bad, it is just bad on Ashley. It makes no sense when you look at from ME1's context.

If Miranda went to something like that from her, latex suit -- I would be happy.

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GodWood wrote...

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vega has got some massive feet...

And yet his package is near non-existent.


Ya know what they say about soldiers with big feet.

Big feet... big boots. :lol::mellow:

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Siansonea II wrote...
An OLD asari. Back when her armor was made, humans didn't exist, and no other species in the galaxy had "boobies" and therefore cleavage didn't mean anything to them.

Honestly... and you try to get into argument with us lore nerds? Slap yourself.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 05 juillet 2011 - 01:03 .


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 I just don't buy the idea that Bioware put her in that outfit to attract little boys. This is the age of porn, after all - if Bioware wanted horny boys to flock to Ashely, they'd have to try a LOT harder.

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Siansonea II wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Maybe they could keep the sexual or sensual aspects limited to when characters interact romantically... ie: f*ck, and then the rest of the time they're equipped like actual soldiers.


Did you complain about Miranda as well?


Nope. Although her and Samara at least had distinct outfits befitting their character, if not the one's I'd choose. I'm arguing for practicality here, realism.


I actually think Miranda and Samara's costumes make perfect sense for their characters. Well, except for in hostile environments and hard vacuum, that is. Miranda is a Minx with a Capital M, she's not going to wear a potato sack or bulky armor. And Samara's an asari. An OLD asari. Back when her armor was made, humans didn't exist, and no other species in the galaxy had "boobies" and therefore cleavage didn't mean anything to them. Well, maybe quarians might have looked twice, but salarians? Would THEY be impressed/aroused/shocked/affected by asari bosoms? Pshaw. Nope. It's not until humans started skittering around the mass relay network that asari got the memo that their bosoms had cultural significance outside of the asari's own culture. That's my take, anyway. Samara would probably be mildly amused that humans fixate on her cleavage, then she'd return to her meditations.


So asari are really just the tired old cliche of the sexy alien babe, right?