And big bad wolf does it a lot.Xeranx wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I call it the way I see it. And it does come off as whining to me.
Any complaint can be given the whine label. It's incredibly easy to do if you're not going to look at the merits of the complaint. And why would anyone do so if they already disagree with the complaint?
It's a smokescreen tactic to get others to devalue the argument or concern put forth. Nothing more.
Modifié par Mr.House, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:15 .
This image isn't a drawing. This outfit is already rendered and textured. There's no need to ask them to keep it, there is no way they'll get rid of it this late in its development and after already showing it at E3. We don't have to show support for people who like the go-go dress, they're going to get it in-game regardless.-Skorpious- wrote...
Many people like Ashley's new look. I may not, but I wouldn't want to rob others of their enjoyment at my expense.
Isn't pleasing both sides without needlessly catering to one party preferable to telling one group to screw off?
Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:16 .
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
-Skorpious- wrote...
Being ungrateful...
What should I be grateful for? Bioware isn't giving me this **** for free out of the kindness of their hearts. I'm paying a customer. I pay for this ****.
I don't need to be grateful, none of this is a gift. It's a product I have to pay for.
Their male character designs are fine. However they've completely forgotten how to design female characters without turning them into sex objects. They need to bring back the team that made Mass Effect 1. They knew what the hell they were doing. The ME2 and ME3 teams clearly don't.
Just put Ashley in the armor she wore in ME2. That looked great on her and it fits her character.
Then don't buy the game, jesus christ.
Nashiktal wrote...
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
-Skorpious- wrote...
Being ungrateful...
What should I be grateful for? Bioware isn't giving me this **** for free out of the kindness of their hearts. I'm paying a customer. I pay for this ****.
I don't need to be grateful, none of this is a gift. It's a product I have to pay for.
Their male character designs are fine. However they've completely forgotten how to design female characters without turning them into sex objects. They need to bring back the team that made Mass Effect 1. They knew what the hell they were doing. The ME2 and ME3 teams clearly don't.
Just put Ashley in the armor she wore in ME2. That looked great on her and it fits her character.
Then don't buy the game, jesus christ.
Ah but you see, we want to want to buy the game! Thats the whole point mate.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Mr.House wrote...
And big bad wolf does it a lot.Xeranx wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I call it the way I see it. And it does come off as whining to me.
Any complaint can be given the whine label. It's incredibly easy to do if you're not going to look at the merits of the complaint. And why would anyone do so if they already disagree with the complaint?
It's a smokescreen tactic to get others to devalue the argument or concern put forth. Nothing more.
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
This image isn't a drawing. This outfit is already rendered and textured. There's no need to ask them to keep it, there is no way they'll get rid of it this late in its development and after already showing it at E3. We don't have to show support for people who like the go-go dress, they're going to get it in-game regardless.-Skorpious- wrote...
Many people like Ashley's new look. I may not, but I wouldn't want to rob others of their enjoyment at my expense.
Isn't pleasing both sides without needlessly catering to one party preferable to telling one group to screw off?
Eshaye wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Just don't buy the CE and you wont even see this in your wardrobe. Problem solved.
FALSE. This new picture is indicative of the way they are going with the armor design in general, we've seen what Ash wore at E3, and so far NO ONE has shown us that she can wear actual plated armor, and/or Kaidan can wear light...
This is the time to speak up NOT wait for the game to come out and facepalm to death because that's all we'll be able to do other then trying to crack the ME3 codes to mod the damn thing to do what we want...
Nashiktal wrote...
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
-Skorpious- wrote...
Being ungrateful...
What should I be grateful for? Bioware isn't giving me this **** for free out of the kindness of their hearts. I'm paying a customer. I pay for this ****.
I don't need to be grateful, none of this is a gift. It's a product I have to pay for.
Their male character designs are fine. However they've completely forgotten how to design female characters without turning them into sex objects. They need to bring back the team that made Mass Effect 1. They knew what the hell they were doing. The ME2 and ME3 teams clearly don't.
Just put Ashley in the armor she wore in ME2. That looked great on her and it fits her character.
Then don't buy the game, jesus christ.
Ah but you see, we want to buy the game! Thats the whole point mate.
Massadonious1 wrote...
Uh, yeah, that's great, but it's still alternative/optional, and certainly not what Casey meant when he said there would be more default looks.
Obvakhi wrote...
Eshaye wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Just don't buy the CE and you wont even see this in your wardrobe. Problem solved.
FALSE. This new picture is indicative of the way they are going with the armor design in general, we've seen what Ash wore at E3, and so far NO ONE has shown us that she can wear actual plated armor, and/or Kaidan can wear light...
This is the time to speak up NOT wait for the game to come out and facepalm to death because that's all we'll be able to do other then trying to crack the ME3 codes to mod the damn thing to do what we want...
Will you pull the panties out of your crack and relax already...
Casey Hudson already stated Ashley will be able to wear armor and a helmet.
What more do you want?
littlezack wrote...
Eromenos wrote...
littlezack wrote...
My point is if you think what Ashely's wearing makes her a sex symbol, than you have a very underdeveloped sense of sex. As I've stated numerous times, I don't like the outfit, but some of you act like she's dressed in DOA style-attire.
Do I like it? No. Do I think she was made that way for ****** material? Hell no. It's just a normal looking outfit.
And honestly, even if it is the only thing she can wear - which I don't believe, I do take Case and Chris at their word - it's not a big deal for me and I don't think it automatically means her entire character is ruined. There are a lot of reasons for someone to like Ash, and the way she dresses is a small part of it. I thought her leaning towards heavy armor was cool in ME1, but that's hardly the only thing I liked about her.
BioWare is presenting her this way for titillation-appeal. You might not respond to their ploy, but that doesn't excuse BioWare for "glamming up" a female Marine grunt in a way that's harmful towards women.
It's not titallating. Hell, female business suits are more revealing.
You know what, I'm done arguing. But I'll say this - if you guys feel that strongly in your CRUSADE AGAINST CHAUVINISM, stop whining on a Bioware forum, make a sign, and go join a march somewhere, instead of spouting a bunch of cliches you heard on TV.
Modifié par Eromenos, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:21 .
Obvakhi wrote...
Eshaye wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Just don't buy the CE and you wont even see this in your wardrobe. Problem solved.
FALSE. This new picture is indicative of the way they are going with the armor design in general, we've seen what Ash wore at E3, and so far NO ONE has shown us that she can wear actual plated armor, and/or Kaidan can wear light...
This is the time to speak up NOT wait for the game to come out and facepalm to death because that's all we'll be able to do other then trying to crack the ME3 codes to mod the damn thing to do what we want...
Will you pull the panties out of your crack and relax already...
Casey Hudson already stated Ashley will be able to wear armor and a helmet.
What more do you want?
Obvakhi wrote...
Eshaye wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Just don't buy the CE and you wont even see this in your wardrobe. Problem solved.
FALSE. This new picture is indicative of the way they are going with the armor design in general, we've seen what Ash wore at E3, and so far NO ONE has shown us that she can wear actual plated armor, and/or Kaidan can wear light...
This is the time to speak up NOT wait for the game to come out and facepalm to death because that's all we'll be able to do other then trying to crack the ME3 codes to mod the damn thing to do what we want...
Will you pull the panties out of your crack and relax already...
Casey Hudson already stated Ashley will be able to wear armor and a helmet.
What more do you want?
Yes you do. You take all complaints, argue, use the Chud tweets crap and label peopel who don't like this and voice concerns whiners. More power to you for liking what they did to Ash, I'm not happy with her look. I'm an Ash fan, it's in my blood and changing her this drastic invokes fanrage.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
And big bad wolf does it a lot.Xeranx wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I call it the way I see it. And it does come off as whining to me.
Any complaint can be given the whine label. It's incredibly easy to do if you're not going to look at the merits of the complaint. And why would anyone do so if they already disagree with the complaint?
It's a smokescreen tactic to get others to devalue the argument or concern put forth. Nothing more.
Uh, no I'm not.
"Not finalized" isn't the same as "up in the air", though. It's incredibly polished, if anything 'finalizing' will mean minor tweaks. Maybe more last-minute, atrocious headgear like in the previous AAPs. Maybe that's why Ash and Kaidan weren't on the box, because they haven't gotten their ugly visors yet.Valentia X wrote...
Pretty sure a dev said earlier in the threat that this was something up in the air that they gave out so they show that they had something to begin with.
At this point, I'm hoping that they let us stick her in heavy armour. Both sides win- you can either keep the skirt suit or put her in the turbo wear most of us know and love.
Eromenos wrote...
littlezack wrote...
Eromenos wrote...
littlezack wrote...
My point is if you think what Ashely's wearing makes her a sex symbol, than you have a very underdeveloped sense of sex. As I've stated numerous times, I don't like the outfit, but some of you act like she's dressed in DOA style-attire.
Do I like it? No. Do I think she was made that way for ****** material? Hell no. It's just a normal looking outfit.
And honestly, even if it is the only thing she can wear - which I don't believe, I do take Case and Chris at their word - it's not a big deal for me and I don't think it automatically means her entire character is ruined. There are a lot of reasons for someone to like Ash, and the way she dresses is a small part of it. I thought her leaning towards heavy armor was cool in ME1, but that's hardly the only thing I liked about her.
BioWare is presenting her this way for titillation-appeal. You might not respond to their ploy, but that doesn't excuse BioWare for "glamming up" a female Marine grunt in a way that's harmful towards women.
It's not titallating. Hell, female business suits are more revealing.
You know what, I'm done arguing. But I'll say this - if you guys feel that strongly in your CRUSADE AGAINST CHAUVINISM, stop whining on a Bioware forum, make a sign, and go join a march somewhere, instead of spouting a bunch of cliches you heard on TV.
You claim it's not titillating just because you don't think it titillates enough. So what? BioWare is still singling out women for skintight catsuits (I do hate the way they colored Liara's red outfit to make her more like Samara) in an effort to titillate guys at the expense of making all the women characters jokes on the battlefield.
Tsk. Attacking chauvinist toys is the best way, IMO. Right here. Not some segregated free-speech zone you can just ignore.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Mr.House wrote...
Yes you do. You take all complaints, argue, use the Chud tweets crap and label peopel who don't like this and voice concerns whiners. More power to you for liking what they did to Ash, I'm not happy with her look. I'm an Ash fan, it's in my blood and changing her this drastic invokes fanrage.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
And big bad wolf does it a lot.Xeranx wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
I call it the way I see it. And it does come off as whining to me.
Any complaint can be given the whine label. It's incredibly easy to do if you're not going to look at the merits of the complaint. And why would anyone do so if they already disagree with the complaint?
It's a smokescreen tactic to get others to devalue the argument or concern put forth. Nothing more.
Uh, no I'm not.
So then get used to this until we are showen screenshots that show Ash in proper heavy armour.Mdoggy1214 wrote...
If you want a screenshot you're gonna have to wait. The game is still 7 months away. Until then, chill.
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
If you want a screenshot you're gonna have to wait. The game is still 7 months away. Until then, chill.
Aris Ravenstar wrote...
This image isn't a drawing. This outfit is already rendered and textured. There's no need to ask them to keep it, there is no way they'll get rid of it this late in its development and after already showing it at E3. We don't have to show support for people who like the go-go dress, they're going to get it in-game regardless.-Skorpious- wrote...
Many people like Ashley's new look. I may not, but I wouldn't want to rob others of their enjoyment at my expense.
Isn't pleasing both sides without needlessly catering to one party preferable to telling one group to screw off?
Modifié par -Skorpious-, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:26 .
Siansonea II wrote...
Obvakhi wrote...
Eshaye wrote...
Massadonious1 wrote...
Just don't buy the CE and you wont even see this in your wardrobe. Problem solved.
FALSE. This new picture is indicative of the way they are going with the armor design in general, we've seen what Ash wore at E3, and so far NO ONE has shown us that she can wear actual plated armor, and/or Kaidan can wear light...
This is the time to speak up NOT wait for the game to come out and facepalm to death because that's all we'll be able to do other then trying to crack the ME3 codes to mod the damn thing to do what we want...
Will you pull the panties out of your crack and relax already...
Casey Hudson already stated Ashley will be able to wear armor and a helmet.
What more do you want?
An IMAGE. Who knows what Casey Hudson has in mind when he says "armor and a helmet" where women are concerned. The watchword in ME2 was T&A, and there's no indication of that changing so far.
No one is whining, all I see is rage, complaints and concenrs and your answer is Chud said it on twitter. That does not cut it.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
It's whining and over speculation. I've been trying to tell people that they shouldn't get so mad about it.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
If you want a screenshot you're gonna have to wait. The game is still 7 months away. Until then, chill.
Mdoggy1214 wrote...
If you want a screenshot you're gonna have to wait. The game is still 7 months away. Until then, chill.
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