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[Eterna]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

I find his lips the most attractive thing about him. His mouth is a little wide, but his lips look the most realistic of any of the humans we've seen, less like plastic-ey Sims lips.

If I could change one thing it would be his cro magnon brow.

Sorry thats what I meant, his mouth it too big. 

[slimgrin]

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

The only reason I want him on my crew is so I can shoot him and his stupid 80's Mowhawk out the airlock, and I'll be sitting in my captain's chair like Picard, sipping Earl Grey, calmly watching him trying to suck air like a stranded fish.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Mr.House wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

I find his lips the most attractive thing about him. His mouth is a little wide, but his lips look the most realistic of any of the humans we've seen, less like plastic-ey Sims lips.

If I could change one thing it would be his cro magnon brow.

And his horrible hair style.

I actually... don't mind the hair? If he had a crewcut he might as well be a robot for how visually generic he would be.

[Siansonea]

Eterna5 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

JRCHOharry wrote...

James Vega is staring into your soul.

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

His mouth doesn't bother me as much as his pig nose does.

[MillaShepard]

He just looks totally out of place to me.  My Shep is going to be constantly wondering what he's doing on the Normandy in the first place.

Modifié par MillaShepard, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:38 .

[Xeranx]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Wait, this is what the characters are going to look like... for reelz?

What did they do to Liara's face! It looks wrong... so very, very wrong.

All their heads look too big for their bodies.  At first I thought it was a fan photoshop until I saw that Ashley's suit was familiar.  Then I grew concerned all over again.


Anyone living near or in the five boroughs of NY and knows of Z-100, do you think he looks like Greg-T?

Modifié par Xeranx, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:41 .

[MillaShepard]

James Vega... Son of ..... Marcus Fenix??

[Siansonea]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

I find his lips the most attractive thing about him. His mouth is a little wide, but his lips look the most realistic of any of the humans we've seen, less like plastic-ey Sims lips.

If I could change one thing it would be his cro magnon brow.

And his horrible hair style.

I actually... don't mind the hair? If he had a crewcut he might as well be a robot for how visually generic he would be.

I just don't like it. It looks like Kaidan's hairbump jumped ship and landed on his head. Does he not know he looks like a pinhead? It's like a toupee.

[JukeFrog]

MillaShepard wrote...

He just looks totally out of place to me.  My Shep is going to be constantly wondering what he's doing on the Normandy in the first place.

Just like Jenkins.

[Siansonea]

MillaShepard wrote...

James Vega... Son of ..... Marcus Fenix??

Am I evil because I hope he's got a really high squeaky voice? That would just be the icing on the cake for this foo.

[Eromenos]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Eromenos wrote...

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Really? You'd accuse Jacob of wearing a catsuit when it's convenient for you, but when Ashley here is stuck wearing the exact same thing albeit with even more exploitative encumberances, suddenly that's not a catsuit? Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Every one of your posts in this thread so far has gone towards supporting this exposed and exploited Ashley. The fact that you would favor the ridiculousness of putting women in such danger just so long as they look pretty by being vulnerable is how you've been idealizing her. You shouldn't defend BioWare's cop-out idiocy here. None of us should.

Hudson also maintained that asari aren't actually female as one of his past attempts to dodge our warranted accusations of sexism, misogyny, exploitation, and homophobia in the way the asari are presented. And there's the entirety of ME2 that he was responsible for. I won't trust anything "good" he says about female characters. He's had nothing to show for a long, long time.

My posts have gone towards chilling the hell out. It's not as if they made her look like Harley Quinn from BAtman Arkham Asylum.

Jacob's catsuit was showing his ass crack as that is how tight it was. As was Miranda's. Ashely doesn't even show anything. It is NOT a catsuit.

Your posts have gone towards trying to get people like me to shut up, just so you can get off on harmful female exploitation in a way that runs counter to actual standards people like I have regarding this issue.

Mmmhmmm. Catsuit, catsuit...hmmm. Oh, perhaps I'm thinking Michelle Pfeiffer whereas you're thinking Halle Berry. Either way, your proposed definition of catsuits is incorrect. You think referencing the lack of "butt-crack" alone is enough to try and ignore all the many other ways Ashley in ME3 is being overly exposed in spite of her nature as a Marine? Come, now. I'll be very surprised if Ashley's catsuit doesn't reveal butt crack, but something tells me it will. You shouldn't try to limit the definition out of convenience if you haven't done enough research. But I don't mind going over this again with you.

Ashley has skintight fabric without any pockets or places to store a shield-generator or healing-system that she once had in her Marine hardsuit. So now, as a pure solder and without the aid of any tech or biotic skills this catsuit will be her supposed protection against bullets, biotics, tech, asphyxiation, and melee. Maybe even poisons. Who knows! She's also got high-heels that mess with her balance and thus they restrict her combat viability. Thigh-high boots and miniskirt of the same nature. Open-collar above her heart too, my my. Even if you were to claim that the material of her catsuit were tough, why would she be unzipped?

What were you saying about her catsuit being unrevealing? Or, not revealing enough to you, I mean?

But of course, of course. Ashley's not wearing "Princess Leia slave outfit" yet and so to you this here isn't really exploiting women. 

Modifié par Eromenos, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:44 .

[MillaShepard]

JukeFrog wrote...

MillaShepard wrote...

He just looks totally out of place to me.  My Shep is going to be constantly wondering what he's doing on the Normandy in the first place.

Just like Jenkins.

I'd take Jenkins over Vega any day.

[Ziggy]

So Ashley now has two catsuits in her wardrobe.
I should probably glad Ashley isn't just a medic in a bikini, but I've come to believe Bioware is better then that.
I want tom-boy soldier to the core Ashley, not this new Ashley who cares more about her looks than not getting shot 

Kaidan: "Those Asari commandos are impressive. Lightly armored, but their speed more than makes up for it."
Ashley: "Unless that speed lets them outrun bullets, I’m more inclined to stick with nice solid armor and a big gun."

Modifié par Em23, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:43 .

[MillaShepard]

Siansonea II wrote...

MillaShepard wrote...

James Vega... Son of ..... Marcus Fenix??

Am I evil because I hope he's got a really high squeaky voice? That would just be the icing on the cake for this foo.

haha ya!  The icing on the "there goes Vega out the airlock" cake.

[Eshaye]

Filament wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

It doesn't need to show skin to be unfair.
It's like in 1990 when female characters were always healers, witches,
or archers. Let's make sure they are out of the way and in pretty things
so they don't get hurt while looking cute wee! 

I thought we were over this stereotyping? 

If her changing to a light armor role constitutes stereotyping is another issue I wasn't really addressing.

Yes it is... Don't try to sound smarter then you are. To pander to male gaze is why it's done and is why women in video games are thought this way in the first place. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:45 .

[Nezzer]

Siansonea II wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

JRCHOharry wrote...

James Vega is staring into your soul.

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

His mouth doesn't bother me as much as his pig nose does.

Does every human squadmate need to be a supermodel to be a likable character? C'mon, it's some for some ugly human squaddies and LI

[ThatDancingTurian]

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

EDIT: (Note: I'm no way advocating that Vega -needs- his face changed, this was just for fun. I don't mind him not being supermodel attractive or whatever.)

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:46 .

[Eshaye]

I don't actually mind James Vega, but that's maybe because I had no intention of romancing him

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

If they reduced the size of his lips he would actually be pretty attractive. 

EDIT: (Note: I'm no way advocating that Vega -needs- his face changed, this was just for fun. I don't mind him not being supermodel attractive or whatever.)

But... DANG!! lol  <3

Modifié par Eshaye, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:46 .

[Siansonea]

Filament wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

It doesn't need to show skin to be unfair.
It's like in 1990 when female characters were always healers, witches,
or archers. Let's make sure they are out of the way and in pretty things
so they don't get hurt while looking cute wee! 

I thought we were over this stereotyping? 

If her changing to a light armor role constitutes stereotyping is another issue I wasn't really addressing.

Siansonea II wrote...

If Kaidan was wearing the exact same outfit, you would have a point. If Ashley hadn't previously disparaged exactly this type of clothing for COMBAT, you'd have a point. The sexualization is beside the point. If this was a long shapeless dress that covers her to the neck, it would STILL be a problem. Because this isn't Ashley, this isn't what she wears into COMBAT. Off duty, whatever. Ash might very well want to look pretty when she's on the ship or walking around someplace like the Citadel. But on a combat mission, Ash would be dressed to kill in a totally different way than she is shown here.

I suspect you didn't read my whole post where I got to the "point" where I agree that it's against her character to wear an outfit that emphasized form over function. The point I was addressing in the rest of my post was that the reason this was done was to pander to male gaze.

I got what you were saying, and yes, it's obvious WHY they did it. My point is that the inherent sexualization or lack thereof is beside the point. It's consistency, not only of Ashley's character, but of the character role filled by Ashley OR Kaidan in ME3. Whether or not Ashley's new look is particulary sexualized, I don't really care, it's the fact that she just wouldn't wear something like that into a combat situation, and Kaidan, occupying the same time/space, doesn't wear anything remotely similar.

[MillaShepard]

I don't care that Vega's not supermodel attractive or w/e... Hell, he might even become friends with my Shep at some point... (still contemplating the airlock option, cos I can that's why) doesn't mean I can't make fun of him a little for being a complete and total derp face.

[shepskisaac]

Eshaye wrote...

I don't actually mind James Vega, but that's maybe because I had no intention of romancing him

Yup. My ManShep is all set up for Kaidan. Vega can watch them at most.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 05 juillet 2011 - 04:49 .

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