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[omnitremere]

MillaShepard wrote...

I012345 wrote...

I haven't read through the forum yet so this has probably already been mentioned a gazillion times. But why doesn't Ashley wear soldier armor anymore? Honestly what I see her in looks like something Liara could slip in just as easily. It doesn't make sense to me. I like the new face but she should still look like she'll brutalize your enemies. It's like they've Mirandered her.

CHud says she'll have full armor and a helmet.. Take that information and do what you will with it haha!

It's several months until release and from what I've read people have made it clear if that's Ashley's permanent getup it would be ridiculous.  I take Hud at his word....

[Tree fox]

 oh right, I forgot about Cortana. But she is an AI who doesn't need armor... or clothes apparently<_<

[Massadonious1]

crimzontearz wrote...

no no no, what I meant was that people on the forums used that same defense to explain why the outfits shown in some of the demos were, well, ridiculous

turned out that is exactly what they were in the final game too

Except that time it wasn't backed up by a dev quote stating otherwise.

[Tree fox]

DP

Modifié par Tree fox, 05 juillet 2011 - 05:46 .

[crimzontearz]

Ruud333 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

hey Bioware, just our of masochistic curiosity...what was wrong with something like this??

<snip>

was it so impossible/unfeasable/unconceivable in your mind to go for something that actually LOOKED like a Marine?

Those don't really fit in with ME's art style, though I imagine you were using them as rough examples?

In any case, I much prefer the 4 oufits we have seen so far

sort of


I was using them as conceptual examples, Female marines in Halo wear armor...full on armor juuuuust like their male counterparts (spartans too but that's another story)

was it too hard to give Ash armor?

honestly it can be UNIQUE armor too to make her more of an individual but does she have to wear the catsuit getup?

[Badpie]

She will have full armor and helmet.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

[Sparda Stonerule]

Mash Mashington wrote...

Sparda Stonerule wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...281509471076352

There, Ashley will also have full armor and a helmet. Can we end this thread and move on already.

http://twitter.com/#...280277432012800

This is also relevant but less so. Have a nice day fine people of the forum.

Yeah well, i'll believe it when i see it. So far i only see that male squadmates are wearing full body armor and Ashley is in "jacket" thing. Even if Kaidan and Vega will also have catsuits and Ashley will have proper armor, this release still follows a pretty infuriating tendency

Yeah sure, and when they do release the pictures people will complain when it isn't exactly like the Mass Effect 1 armor. From what I've seen on this forum a lot of the fans also follow a pretty infuriating tendancy. That is to say a lot of you are quick to the gun and slow to take time and think about things. Most of you are reactionary and so quick to dismiss things that don't suit you.

[crimzontearz]

Massadonious1 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

no no no, what I meant was that people on the forums used that same defense to explain why the outfits shown in some of the demos were, well, ridiculous

turned out that is exactly what they were in the final game too

Except that time it wasn't backed up by a dev quote stating otherwise.

your Dev Quote says that she will "also" have armor and helmet, for all you know it will be only in certain missions when she has to have a hardsuit for plot purposes and not all the time

devs do that often

case in point? Remember they said they planned to have the hammerhead in the vanilla ME2 game? Even said they were working on it waaaaaaaaaaaaay early on in production but were always vague about it? GI had a whole spread about it too.......and it turned out it became a DLC item

unless you get a full on confirmation with details and no sybilline statements then it just does not count

[Ghost-621]

Bioware, NOW DO YOU SEE THE FANBASE REACTION? WE. DON'T. LIKE. ASHLANDA.

You've ruined a good, unique character to cater the game to the "hurr durr I love boobies (casual gaming)" audience. I thought you better than that.

Honestly, I'm having second thoughts about my collector's edition preorder.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 05 juillet 2011 - 05:53 .

[crimzontearz]

Badpie wrote...

She will have full armor and helmet.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

point out where casey said "she will be equippable with full armor and helmet at will whnever you so choose" and we will be happy

so far it could just mean she will be wearing the full armor in a couple of missions because she just has to in order not to look ridiculous given the situation

[Candidate 88766]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Bioware, NOW DO YOU SEE THE FANBASE REACTION? WE. DON'T. LIKE. ASHLANDA.

You've ruined a good, unique character to cater the game to the "hurr durr I love boobies (casual gaming)" audience. I thought you you better than that.

Honestly, I'm having second thoughts about my collector's edition preorder.

Really? You're considering cancelling a preorder because of a hint of cleavage? Women have breasts - GET OVER IT. Its not like the boxart is her posing in a bikini. If you're that offended by a hint of flesh you probably shouldn't be playing a game like Mass Effect.

Actually, scratch that. cancel the preorder. One more collector's edition for the Mass Effect fans.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 05 juillet 2011 - 05:58 .

[crimzontearz]

randumb vanguard wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Bioware, NOW DO YOU SEE THE FANBASE REACTION? WE. DON'T. LIKE. ASHLANDA.

You've ruined a good, unique character to cater the game to the "hurr durr I love boobies (casual gaming)" audience. I thought you you better than that.

Honestly, I'm having second thoughts about my collector's edition preorder.

Because putting in boobies completely ruins everything else in the game and makes it silly and childish, I mean the romance scenes are fine but when you give a charecter larger breasts it's crossing the line.

way to miss the point

[Candidate 88766]

crimzontearz wrote...

Badpie wrote...

She will have full armor and helmet.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

point out where casey said "she will be equippable with full armor and helmet at will whnever you so choose" and we will be happy

so far it could just mean she will be wearing the full armor in a couple of missions because she just has to in order not to look ridiculous given the situation

By that same token point out where it says in his quote that she will only wear it on particular missions.

[Massadonious1]

crimzontearz wrote...
your Dev Quote says that she will "also" have armor and helmet, for all you know it will be only in certain missions when she has to have a hardsuit for plot purposes and not all the time

Or, it could work exactly how it worked for both her and Kaidan/Shep in ME1 and Shep in ME2.

Nah, that's too unbelievable.

[Crackseed]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Bioware, NOW DO YOU SEE THE FANBASE REACTION? WE. DON'T. LIKE. ASHLANDA.

You've ruined a good, unique character to cater the game to the "hurr durr I love boobies (casual gaming)" audience. I thought you better than that.

Honestly, I'm having second thoughts about my collector's edition preorder.

Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who DO like Ash and are happy she will have a range of outfits. And I'm a bit amused at this "hurr durr boobies" line considering her Phoenix and all sub-sequent ME1 armors had a significant amount of "boob plate" built in to them as well.

So like the poster above said - this "jump on the hate bandwagon and pretend it's the fanbase majority" trend is just silly. I want them to do her armoring justice, but even w/o seeing her armor/helmet ensemble, I see very little wrong with the current leaked imagery either.

So please stop trying to speak for me or any other member of the "fanbase" and speak for yourself

[crimzontearz]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Badpie wrote...

She will have full armor and helmet.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

point out where casey said "she will be equippable with full armor and helmet at will whnever you so choose" and we will be happy

so far it could just mean she will be wearing the full armor in a couple of missions because she just has to in order not to look ridiculous given the situation

By that same token point out where it says in his quote that she will only wear it on particular missions.

the burden of "specifications" is obviously not on me

Bioware is the developer studio, Casey CHOSE to make his statement sybilline when he could have specified in detail (not that one needed much, just a couple of extra words) in a statement he made to clarify a situation. 

[crimzontearz]

Massadonious1 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
your Dev Quote says that she will "also" have armor and helmet, for all you know it will be only in certain missions when she has to have a hardsuit for plot purposes and not all the time

Or, it could work exactly how it worked for both her and Kaidan/Shep in ME1 and Shep in ME2.

Nah, that's too unbelievable.

uhm....given what we saw in ME2 and the lack of details given to us so far everything points to a big fat "no"

[Candidate 88766]

crimzontearz wrote...

the burden of "specifications" is obviously not on me

Bioware is the developer studio, Casey CHOSE to make his statement sybilline when he could have specified in detail (not that one needed much, just a couple of extra words) in a statement he made to clarify a situation. 

He has outright come out and said she will have armour in Mass Effect 3. Within that there wasn't even the vaguest hint that it would only be available some of the time. If ME1 and ME2 are any indication, the characters will wear the same outfit the entire time. There is no precident in Mass Effect for different squad outfits depending on the situation, and no hint of that in Casey's quote. So yes, the onus is on you to explain why you leapt to that conclusion.

[crimzontearz]

randumb vanguard wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

randumb vanguard wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Bioware, NOW DO YOU SEE THE FANBASE REACTION? WE. DON'T. LIKE. ASHLANDA.

You've ruined a good, unique character to cater the game to the "hurr durr I love boobies (casual gaming)" audience. I thought you you better than that.

Honestly, I'm having second thoughts about my collector's edition preorder.

Because putting in boobies completely ruins everything else in the game and makes it silly and childish, I mean the romance scenes are fine but when you give a charecter larger breasts it's crossing the line.

way to miss the point

No it seems that fanservice ruins everything is pretty much what he is trying to say. i mean honestly, how does changing a character's looks ruin said character, or warrent a reaction like "I don't want my pre-order anymore! D:"

a character who specifies she would take a heavy armor over Asari commando Uniforms any day of the week is now wearing that outfit

see the problem?

alkso I agree with you he overreacted with the whole preorder cancellation thing but I seriously doubt his only issue was the boobs for the sake of boobage

[crimzontearz]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

the burden of "specifications" is obviously not on me

Bioware is the developer studio, Casey CHOSE to make his statement sybilline when he could have specified in detail (not that one needed much, just a couple of extra words) in a statement he made to clarify a situation. 

He has outright come out and said she will have armour in Mass Effect 3. Within that there wasn't even the vaguest hint that it would only be available some of the time. If ME1 and ME2 are any indication, the characters will wear the same outfit the entire time. There is no precident in Mass Effect for different squad outfits depending on the situation, and no hint of that in Casey's quote. So yes, the onus is on you to explain why you leapt to that conclusion.

read the quote please

"she will A-L-S-O have fulla rmor and helmet" 

the operative word here is "also"

Also, Ash is seen wearing the "catsuit" uniform in the E3 demo, by your logic since they will wear only one outfit the entire time  she should have been seen wearing armor

[JamieCOTC]

Shepard: Ashley? What the hell are you wearing?
Ash: Like?
Shepard: Yeah ... on Liara.  Now go put on a real uniform so we can get to work. 
Ash: No fun.