I never bother romancing im since im always male and dont play feamle often. When your male shepard i try to be his friend but he rarley says any thing and its always short.
Is Kaidan actually a deep character?
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, juil. 04 2011 05:58
#1
Guest_xnoxiousx_*
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 05:58
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#2
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:03
He will be in this game I imagine. I didn't like him in ME or ME2, but I did like him better then Ashley.
#3
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:03
would like to know as well.
#4
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:03
Of course. He tells ManShep everything he tells FemShep except little insignificant details on his parents. Other than that, has a great story that shaped him to be a complex character.
#5
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Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:03
Guest_xnoxiousx_*
I was referring to me1.
#6
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Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:04
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Maybe i never bothered with his characters all my playthroughs he dies on.IsaacShep wrote...
Of course. He tells ManShep everything he tells FemShep except little insignificant details on his parents. Other than that, has a great story that shaped him to be a complex character.
#7
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:08
Save him in one then and actually listen to what he has to tell. There's alot of it, with the exception of 1 dialogue after Eden Prime, he has as much to say to ManShep and he has to FemShep.xnoxiousx wrote...
Maybe i never bothered with his characters all my playthroughs he dies on.
#8
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:09
You can read Kaidan's story on the wiki, but actually talking to him, and listening, helps a lot. He tells both Male Shep and Female Shep the same details, FemShep just gets the extra flirting and compliments.
Every character in both Mass Effect games is only as good as the dialogue when you stop and chat with them. If you don't take the time, or skip through the conversations just to get done with them, you'll miss out on a lot of depth, for any party member.
Every character in both Mass Effect games is only as good as the dialogue when you stop and chat with them. If you don't take the time, or skip through the conversations just to get done with them, you'll miss out on a lot of depth, for any party member.
#9
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:20
I often got the feeling Kaidan was tarred with the "Carth 2.0" brush. Having not played KoToR I didn't have the same experience, and found him a likable and balanced character with an interesting backstory. It'll be good to see him back in ME3, I'm interested as to where character development is going to take him now.
#10
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:27
In ME1, I felt like Kaidan, Ashley, Liara and Tali had quite a lot to say when talking with Shepard one-on-one. Of course I was less interested in what Tali talked about, since it was mostly general information about quarians and geth, and I wasn't that interested in those subjects. I was much more interested in what had transpired in human history in the game world, and Kaidan and Ashley were the best window into that subject, and each of them had a personal connection to the events. With Kaidan, we learned about humanity's early biotic research, with Ashley we learned about the First Contact War and some personal stories about her sisters. I liked talking with Kaidan and Ashley a lot. With Liara, we got some info about asari and the Protheans, and of course Liara has more "plot" activity, but as awesome as the asari are I will still always gravitate to human characters for the most part. I thought the discussions with Garrus and Wrex were pretty weak by comparison. Most of the time Shepard's dialogue choices are "go on" and "goodbye" with those two, and I didn't find either of their contributions to be particularly illuminating.
#11
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:29
People don't like Kaiden for the same reason people don't like Jacob; Despite the trials they have gone through they are mostly perfectly normal people.
And normal is boring.
And normal is boring.
#12
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:31
Kaidan was a lot more chill than Carth, imo.
Kaidan: Hey commander. What's that? You want to talk about my somewhat emotionally charged past? Well, ok then.
Carth: What? Whaddayawant? Me? Why do you want to know about me? You some kinda goddam spy? Interfering with the mission? Gonna stab me in the back? Well TUBAD. Fuggedaboutit. Oh all right you win here's a non-conclusive tidbit about my DEEP PERSONAL HATRED for the Sith. And my huge trust issues. And my problems with people in general. BUT ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE SO PERSISTENT. Let us never speak of this again. Until we do. Or something.
I should go.... tin foil... no? Aluminum? What covers the head better...
Kaidan: Hey commander. What's that? You want to talk about my somewhat emotionally charged past? Well, ok then.
Carth: What? Whaddayawant? Me? Why do you want to know about me? You some kinda goddam spy? Interfering with the mission? Gonna stab me in the back? Well TUBAD. Fuggedaboutit. Oh all right you win here's a non-conclusive tidbit about my DEEP PERSONAL HATRED for the Sith. And my huge trust issues. And my problems with people in general. BUT ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE SO PERSISTENT. Let us never speak of this again. Until we do. Or something.
I should go.... tin foil... no? Aluminum? What covers the head better...
#13
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:36
I liked Carth, in fact more so than I did Ashley. He was very down to earth, and I respected him for that. And that's the brilliance about the characters, you will like or hate them not for lack of any sort of depth, but for the opposite. I'm not a huge Ashley fan because I don't really like her personality. And that's why it's nice, you react to the characters like in real life, so you act like you normally would.
#14
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:36
Kaidan is very similar to Jacob in morality, though he has a little more conflict written into his character. His experiences as a human biotic with L2 implants offers a pretty good backstory. I kept Kaidan around because he was a bro, I didn't dislike Ashley, just felt that I wanted to see a buddy come back in the sequel as opposed to a woman I didn't choose to romance.
Well, I kept him around in most of my playthroughs anyways.
Well, I kept him around in most of my playthroughs anyways.
#15
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:37
That is a good question, I imagine some players find him to be a very complex character and really like him but to each his/her own. When I first started playing ME1 I actually couldn't stand Kaidan. I thought he was boring, had no backbone, no personality, to quiet.
However, after a few playthroughs I started to like him a lot because I realized I myself am A LOT like him, I am an introvert, pretty quiet, open-minded, keep to myself, opinionated, cares for others, etc... Not to mention the fact that I look exactly like him, (with shorter hair).
Kaidan is a very interesting character, I really hope BW continues to "flesh" him out a bit more in ME3. I think he represents a great example of how to "implement and include" (for lack of better words), a major male companion/character without touching that testosterone, dude-bro, jock, vibe, if you know what I mean.
All in all Kaidan although I didn't fully appreciate him at first is an awesome teammate and character.
Just my two cents,
-Hawk
However, after a few playthroughs I started to like him a lot because I realized I myself am A LOT like him, I am an introvert, pretty quiet, open-minded, keep to myself, opinionated, cares for others, etc... Not to mention the fact that I look exactly like him, (with shorter hair).
Kaidan is a very interesting character, I really hope BW continues to "flesh" him out a bit more in ME3. I think he represents a great example of how to "implement and include" (for lack of better words), a major male companion/character without touching that testosterone, dude-bro, jock, vibe, if you know what I mean.
All in all Kaidan although I didn't fully appreciate him at first is an awesome teammate and character.
Just my two cents,
-Hawk
#16
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:38
He's deep but ultimately a re-skin of Carth Onasi. Therefore Ka-boom to him. Good day to you.
#17
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:39
Kaidan is a very deep character. Actually, about 6 feet deep in all my play throughs...
#18
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:39
The only reason Kaidan is dead on most of my playthroughs is because it had a bigger emotional aspect on my game. Some of my femshep's have lost lovers, my dudesheps lost a good friend. Not to mention it makes sense to be a little more hurt by losing you're Lt. that has been at your side before the events of the first game than a soldier you pick up on Eden Prime. Also not to say that I hate Ashley, I just love them both for different reasons based on my Shep's play style in a particular save. I recommend giving Kaidan a shot before you write him off completely.
Edit: fixing spelling errors
Edit: fixing spelling errors
Modifié par Calamity Abounds, 04 juillet 2011 - 06:41 .
#19
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:39
I found him a very fleshed out person. He is my second favorite biotic in either game and much more of my bro then Garrus.
#20
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:42
Strephon Gentry wrote...
Kaidan is a very deep character. Actually, about 6 feet deep in all my play throughs...
***Puts on sunglasses***
YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!
Very nice Sir, very nice.
-Hawk
#21
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:44
Strephon Gentry wrote...
Kaidan is a very deep character. Actually, about 6 feet deep in all my play throughs...
Clever. I think a discussion regarding nuclear fission is in order, but is rather off-topic.
#22
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:46
The only character shallow in m1 is Liara. Fixed in the shadow broker.
#23
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:48
I found Paragon Kaidan to be an interesting foil character for my renegade femshep. It was actually one of the more interesting playthroughs. The only thing that really bothered me was the constant, "If anything ever happened to you ..." shtick. I thought my Shep was going to die in the end or something.
#24
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 06:52
I didn't think he was a deep character but I wasn't keen on his romance with my FemShep.
#25
Posté 04 juillet 2011 - 07:41
Yep he tells you quite a deep backstory. I wasn't Kaidan's biggest fan, but after ME2 I realised how good he really is. You learn about his upbringing and his time as a biotic as well as several other personal feelings and experiences he shares
Then you have ME2 characters that are lacklustre in comparison. Like Jacob, any explanation into his biotic background? Nope, all the explanation we get is "I will hit 'em with the good stuff!". Thats one example of course.
Anyway I digress. My point being is that Kaidan is quite a deep character certainly! One the most Bioware have written in the series so far.
Then you have ME2 characters that are lacklustre in comparison. Like Jacob, any explanation into his biotic background? Nope, all the explanation we get is "I will hit 'em with the good stuff!". Thats one example of course.
Anyway I digress. My point being is that Kaidan is quite a deep character certainly! One the most Bioware have written in the series so far.





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