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[Augustei]

So in ME2 we find out Kaidan was promoted to the rank of Staff-Commander while Shepard is out, in ME3 apparently Ashley Williams has reached the rank of 2nd lieutenant where she was promoted to operations chief while shepard was out, so risen 1 more rank between me2 and me3 so its quite possible Kaiden may even be being cosidered or already be a Major / Captain. So with Shepard rejoining the Systems Alliance in ME3 does that mean we have to start taking orders from Kaidan now since he is out commanding officer and outranks us? or is he going to calmly step aside and let shepard take the reins of command?

I personally dont like the idea of being given orders from kaidan.. lucky for me he didn't survive Virmire and by ME3 theres still 2 ranks between Shepard and Ashley Williams =P but for those who saved Kaidan on Virmire.. What will you do if Kaidan starts giving you commands  especially those that conflict with your Shepards views?

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 04 juillet 2011 - 10:16 .

[AngelicMachinery]

No, Kaidan will smile like a good little boy an listen to everything that Shepard says. Anyone who is worried about this should just relax, Bioware isn't going to take Big Dog status away from Shep.

[VolusvsReaper]

I am pretty sure if Kaiden tried telling Shep what to do, Shepard would laugh at him and tell him to go clean the toilets on the Normandy.

[motleykroot]

It's important to remember that between ME1 and ME2 Commander Shepard attained the universally recognized rank of Commander Shepard.

[Trandoshan]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

I am pretty sure if Kaiden tried telling Shep what to do, Shepard would laugh at him and tell him to go clean the toilets on the Normandy.

I agree with this. There is no way Shepard would put up with Kaiden giving orders, and I don't think Kaiden would try to.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

Kaidan would suck as an authority figure. The man couldn't intimidate a child.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yup, quite funny. Then again Shepard's rank has pretty much gone downhill since ME2 and the whole Cerberus thing.

[nhsk]

KaiDAN

Repeat after me..

Give me a "K"
Give me an "A"
Give me an "I"
Give me a "D"
Give me an "A"
Give me a "N"

What does it spell?

KAI D-A-N

[ADLegend21]

Yup. Kaidan outranks her. she died and didn't get a posthumous promotion and worked with Cerberus. The spectre status makes it a mute point though since they both operate outside the rank and file anyway.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

motleykroot wrote...

It's important to remember that between ME1 and ME2 Commander Shepard attained the universally recognized rank of Commander Shepard.

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite social site on the internet.

[Heather Cline]

The Normandy is Shepard's ship though so if you think about it, also if Shepard is being re-instated in the Alliance, no doubt they will give her/him a rank promotion. Also there is the fact that if you didn't reject spectre reinstatement then that also puts you above Kaiden if he lived in your playthrough.

[Amratis]

Kaidan won't try and give orders when he knows that Shep is always in charge of the Normandy. For one thing it doesn't really suit his personality. I imagine as soon as Shep's on board the Normandy he'll cede control to him/her.

I'm thinking there might be some sort of conversation where it is pointed out that he technically outranks Shep now, and in that convo he'll probably volunteer to be XO or something. MHO

[CroGamer002]

Shepard should have been promoted to Captain since ME1, but joining Spectres he/she had to give commission from Alliance.

Also in ME2, Captain of Quarian ship Neema calls Shepard captain.

[Sheppard-Commander]

Admiral Hackett undoubtedly outranks Shepard...yet I've never heard him give Shepard one order. Not only that, but he was present during the battle of the citadel, and yet deferred decisions to Shepard.

Shepard supercedes military rank at this point.

[upsettingshorts]

Kaidan outranks Shepard in the Systems Alliance but if they're both Spectres they're equals - they both answer to the Council - and outside the Systems Alliance chain of command. So it doesn't matter.

[Mr.House]

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title.

Modifié par Mr.House, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:31 .

[Vilma]

motleykroot wrote...

It's important to remember that between ME1 and ME2 Commander Shepard attained the universally recognized rank of Commander Shepard.

This.

What with the court martial and everything, I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard was to be stripped off her rank altogether. I believe in ME3 the commanding hierarchy will be based on something else than the books. Such as Shepard's undeniable Commander Shepard-ness.

[Augustei]

Trandoshan wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

I am pretty sure if Kaiden tried telling Shep what to do, Shepard would laugh at him and tell him to go clean the toilets on the Normandy.

I agree with this. There is no way Shepard would put up with Kaiden giving orders, and I don't think Kaiden would try to.

Being a higher rank. Kaidan would be assigned as Commanding Officer of any ships the both of them happen to serve on by alliance command, plus their regulations and protocols would be set up so that if Shepard starts disobeying his Commanding Officers orders then idk.. he will be court marshalled or something.... again.. I mean they aren't going to toss regulations aside just because of an invasion.. They would probably deny there even is an invasion and call bs on shepards claims again.. I mean even when they were directly above earth in the masses, and contact would have been lost with Arcturus they still denied the reapers were real.. Why would they start saying they are real when they are attacking?

But yeah it will probably be a case of Shepard displaying his natural superior commanding skills, plus with a reaper invasion he has more experience with them then anybody so better listen to shepard. In the event that Kaidan still gives orders to shepard there should hopefully be a paragon option to charm / convince him to let us take command.... or a renegade option to shoot him in the head

[Mr.House]

Sheppard-Commander wrote...

Admiral Hackett undoubtedly outranks Shepard...yet I've never heard him give Shepard one order. Not only that, but he was present during the battle of the citadel, and yet deferred decisions to Shepard.

Shepard supercedes military rank at this point.

Because Shepard is a Spectre, Hackett can only ask not order and the only reason why the fleet listens to Shepard at the battle was because Shepard could let them enter.

[-Skorpious-]

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title.

And because the name is iconic.

Imagine if everybody started calling you "captain" in ME3 - it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue like commander does does it? 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:34 .

[upsettingshorts]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Imagine if everybody started calling you "captain" in ME3; it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue like commander does. 

I've argued that they should have been calling him/her that since Mass Effect 1.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 juillet 2011 - 09:35 .

[crimzontearz]

if the VS outranks shepard and starts getting uppity I will airlock them at the first chance

[nhsk]

Mr.House wrote...

Because Shepard is a Spectre, Hackett can only ask not order and the only reason why the fleet listens to Shepard at the battle was because Shepard could let them enter.

And only an idiot officer doesn't listen to lower ranked officers, when the lower ranked officers has operational knowledge of the battle at hand.

Only after a valid briefing should a superior ranked officer assume the command in a battle.

[Mr.House]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard has no true rank anymore, Shepard is still called Commander for three reasons.

1:That was the title they had before he/she died
2: Shepard is known across the galaxy as Commander and never changed rank before death.
3: Walters was too lazy to touch this in the game and did not get rid of the Commander title.

And because the name is iconic.

Imagine if everybody started calling you "captain" in ME3 - it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue like commander does does it? 

Captain Shepard has more power in it's name.